"First of all, we are talking about the probability of a hit with Buk-M3 is 0.9999, which is not the case with the S-300," - said a source in the Russian Defense Ministry. Besides, he added, "the maximum range of the complex has increased by 25 km when compared with its predecessor and brought up to 70 km."
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BUK SAM system Thread
Kyo- Posts : 494
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Buk-M3's range has reached 70km. and in a number of parameters has surpassed S-300
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based Buk. couldnt wait to see it on armata/ kurganets chassis.Kyo wrote:
"First of all, we are talking about the probability of a hit with Buk-M3 is 0.9999, which is not the case with the S-300," - said a source in the Russian Defense Ministry. Besides, he added, "the maximum range of the complex has increased by 25 km when compared with its predecessor and brought up to 70 km."
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What is the most important here is, that production will start already in this year and Army will receive them in the beginning of the next year. S-300V4 and Buk-M3 will give excellent AD cover over ground forces and combine them with SHORADs like Tor-M2 and Pantsir and it will be very difficult for CAS planes and attack helicopters to come near to armor units on the front. T-14 and T-15 units will have excellent protection.
Austin- Posts : 7617
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Russia's Buk-M3 antiaircraft missile system surpasses S-300 in some parameters
http://tass.ru/en/russia/795805
http://tass.ru/en/russia/795805
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Austin wrote:Russia's Buk-M3 antiaircraft missile system surpasses S-300 in some parameters
http://tass.ru/en/russia/795805
'Surpasses S-300' sounds pretty vague, most likely they're saying that it's superior to the 'S-300 PS/PMU' which is really good news!
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When they are talking surpassing, it is surpassing in terms of its range vs accuracy. So the BUK-M3 apparently reaches 70km range, and has a hit probability of something like .9998 which apparently, early S-300 models (that had ranges up to 90km, early P models I think) had less accuracy at 70km mark, making BUK-M3 more accurate than early S-300's. If the system is cheaper and easy to manufacture, then this is a huge +
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Air defence system Buk-m3
hi
i have heard lately alot of talks about the buk-m3 so my question is
1.is there a picture for the system ?
2.what is the specs ?
i have heard lately alot of talks about the buk-m3 so my question is
1.is there a picture for the system ?
2.what is the specs ?
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Anas Ali wrote:
i have heard lately alot of talks about the buk-m3 so my question is
1.is there a picture for the system ?
There are pictures, further up on this page, of the launcher (TELAR) and a missile only launcher (or launcher-transporter or launcher transloader).
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Unedited version of the pic posted by TR1:
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Austin wrote:Russia's Buk-M3 antiaircraft missile system surpasses S-300 in some parameters
http://tass.ru/en/russia/795805
Yes, they are reffering to an initial S-300 range of abt. 50km. Most of the time Russians when they compare the systems they say 3 or 4 times better this or that system
reffering to an initial version very rarely othervise.
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@Morpheus Eberhardt - my man
I was hopping to see a picture like that.
BUK-M3 is extremely powerfull system.
I was hopping to see a picture like that.
BUK-M3 is extremely powerfull system.
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Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:Buk-M3 launcher or transloader-launcher:
12 missiles...nice
Transporter vehicle for BUK-M3
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Cyberspec wrote:Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:Buk-M3 launcher or transloader-launcher:
12 missiles...nice
Transporter vehicle for BUK-M3
I want to see this in the 2016 Victory Day Parade, as well as Morfey, Sosna, Hermes, and S-500...I don't want to wait until the 75th anniversary of Victory Day (2020) to see this!
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A probability of 99.999 depends on the type of target they are trying to hit , if its a fighter type its very good , if its subsonic cruise missile type then its still ok.
BTW did they go for Active Radar Homing for BUK-M3 or kept SARH type guidance ?
BTW did they go for Active Radar Homing for BUK-M3 or kept SARH type guidance ?
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There's a fair chance we might see the Buk-M3 since it's slated to enter service next year. They usually show off stuff that's about to enter service, as was the case with the Pantsir-S1
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Viktor wrote:@Morpheus Eberhardt - my man
I was hopping to see a picture like that.
BUK-M3 is extremely powerfull system.
Thanks, Viktor.
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i lenta pimping up Buk M3 capabilities? Or this is rather closer to real ones?
after Lenta from May 20th
Not ordered yet but still an option Buk M4. AFTER iTAR-TASS, 20th of May
I wonder how potent it would be...
after Lenta from May 20th
A single anti-aircraft missile system army levels CHM "Buk-M3" is a profound improvement of the complex K "Buk-M2", standing on the arms of the Soviet and then Russian army since 1988. The complex is equipped with an upgraded rocket MM. The division of these "Books" is able to simultaneously bombard at range from 2.5 to 70 kilometers and at altitudes of up to 35 kilometers to 36 goals, moving at speeds up to 3 thousand meters per second.
Not ordered yet but still an option Buk M4. AFTER iTAR-TASS, 20th of May
According to the source TASS, the defense Ministry has not yet decided on the need to start developing a following modifications - Buk-M4". "There are no jobs on this complex from the Ministry of defense of the plant did not receive, - said the Agency interlocutor. - Thus, there was no contract and no funding."
I wonder how potent it would be...
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Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:Viktor wrote:@Morpheus Eberhardt - my man
I was hopping to see a picture like that.
BUK-M3 is extremely powerfull system.
Thanks, Viktor.
It seems now obvious that BUK-M3 will have 6 missile load TELAR and 12 missile load TEL same as we saw in
the Pancir-SM scheme.
50% increase in ready to fire missile load. Increased range and lethality. Improved systems of command etc with the exceptional BUK mobility.
In combination with the modernized BUK-M1-2 Russian AD sytems just got a loooooot more dangerous.
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Viktor wrote:
It seems now obvious that BUK-M3 will have 6 missile load TELAR and 12 missile load TEL same as we saw in
the Pancir-SM scheme.
50% increase in ready to fire missile load. Increased range and lethality. Improved systems of command etc with the exceptional BUK mobility.
In combination with the modernized BUK-M1-2 Russian AD sytems just got a loooooot more dangerous.
Why 12 Buk and 23 new Pantsir? maybe because main threat now are massive volleys of cruise missiles?
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Nope
GunshipDemocracy wrote:Viktor wrote:
It seems now obvious that BUK-M3 will have 6 missile load TELAR and 12 missile load TEL same as we saw in
the Pancir-SM scheme.
50% increase in ready to fire missile load. Increased range and lethality. Improved systems of command etc with the exceptional BUK mobility.
In combination with the modernized BUK-M1-2 Russian AD sytems just got a loooooot more dangerous.
Why 12 Buk and 23 new Pantsir? maybe because main threat now are massive volleys of cruise missiles?
Nope. Future is massed drone swarms.
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Drone PGM Cruise missle?
Igla + Verba it help
Igla + Verba it help
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calripson wrote:GunshipDemocracy wrote:Viktor wrote:
It seems now obvious that BUK-M3 will have 6 missile load TELAR and 12 missile load TEL same as we saw in
the Pancir-SM scheme.
50% increase in ready to fire missile load. Increased range and lethality. Improved systems of command etc with the exceptional BUK mobility.
In combination with the modernized BUK-M1-2 Russian AD sytems just got a loooooot more dangerous.
Why 12 Buk and 23 new Pantsir? maybe because main threat now are massive volleys of cruise missiles?
Nope. Future is massed drone swarms.
Wow, that will be a crappy future, because Iran already proved that somewhat older EW was able to control a multi billion dollar stealth drone to force it to land. In other words, an entire "swarm" of aircrafts can be taken out in an instance by electronic warfare, and then you lose that swarm, in a second.
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sepheronx wrote:calripson wrote:GunshipDemocracy wrote:Viktor wrote:
It seems now obvious that BUK-M3 will have 6 missile load TELAR and 12 missile load TEL same as we saw in
the Pancir-SM scheme.
50% increase in ready to fire missile load. Increased range and lethality. Improved systems of command etc with the exceptional BUK mobility.
In combination with the modernized BUK-M1-2 Russian AD sytems just got a loooooot more dangerous.
Why 12 Buk and 23 new Pantsir? maybe because main threat now are massive volleys of cruise missiles?
Nope. Future is massed drone swarms.
Wow, that will be a crappy future, because Iran already proved that somewhat older EW was able to control a multi billion dollar stealth drone to force it to land. In other words, an entire "swarm" of aircrafts can be taken out in an instance by electronic warfare, and then you lose that swarm, in a second.
but but but... the future
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does BUK-M3 has Active Radar Homing or Semi-Active Radar Homing ?
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The future holds warfare of sticks and stones and hiding for years in catacombs while the rest gets ashed...