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    Post  franco Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:34 pm

    MOSCOW, February 19 -. RIA Novosti Russian Interior Ministry completed the program transfers privates and sergeants positions in the service contract, the number of contractors has reached 80 thousand people, said Commander Viktor Zolotov.

    "In the Interior Troops in full complete set of measures for the acquisition of military posts of sergeants and soldiers of military personnel undergoing army service under the contract, to the set of the Russian Federation the number of the president - 80 thousand people," - said the gold at the festive officer reception dedicated to the Day of Defender of the Fatherland.

    He added that for military personnel and their families living conditions laid eight residential houses were built in 2015. At the expense of own and shared construction obtained 1.74 thousand apartments.
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    Post  sepheronx Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:26 pm

    http://tass.ru/en/politics/867435

    Russian National Guard is formed.
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    Post  franco Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:49 pm

    sepheronx wrote:http://tass.ru/en/politics/867435

    Russian National Guard is formed.

    VV (Troops of the Interior) leave the Ministry of the Interior (MVD) to become the National Guard reporting directly to the President. Meanwhile the Drug Enforcement (FKSN) and the Migration Services (FMS) are subordinated to the Ministry of the Interior... got all of that. Actually surprised the FSO (Guard Protection Service) wasn't merged in with the National Guard.
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    Post  George1 Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:38 am

    So National Guard Troops will be the new form of ex Internal Troops. What will happen with the special forces of Internal Troops (MVD Spetsnaz)?
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    Post  franco Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:27 pm

    George1 wrote:So National Guard Troops will be the new form of ex Internal Troops. What will happen with the special forces of Internal Troops (MVD Spetsnaz)?

    They (SN) are part of the new National Guard. The SF troops that stayed with the MVD were the OMON and SOBR units which are police units anyway.
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    Post  franco Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:45 pm

    On the other hand after reading this article I'm confused and in more ways then one     Suspect


    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://rg.ru/2016/04/06/nacgvardiia-poluchit-osobye-polnomochiia-po-obespecheniiu-bezopasnosti-v-rf.html&usg=ALkJrhjZc_TV-nMXIi2nedGW-tEJ580Bpg


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    The decision was made, we create a new federal executive body on the basis of Interior Ministry troops, creating the National Guard, which will deal with the fight against terrorism, organized crime, in close contact with the Ministry of Internal Affairs will continue to perform those functions which are performed by riot police units SWAT, and so on. d "-.

    4. Turn on the structure of the Federal Service of the Russian Federation troops National Guard:

    a) The bodies of internal affairs and units of the Ministry of the Russian Federation by the federal state control (supervision) over observance of the Russian legislation in the field of arms trafficking in the field of private security activities, as well as security services, including the Center for Special Purpose private security service of the Ministry of the Interior Affairs of the Russian Federation;

    b) special rapid reaction units of territorial bodies of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation;

    c) mobile teams of special purpose of territorial bodies of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation;
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    Post  franco Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:41 am

    So the Private Security Guard division of the Police will also go to the National Guard... keeps getting bigger and bigger.

    http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160406/1037574204/russian-national-guard-explained.html
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    Post  George1 Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:49 am

    franco wrote:So the Private Security Guard division of the Police will also go to the National Guard... keeps getting bigger and bigger.

    http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160406/1037574204/russian-national-guard-explained.html

    In addition to the Internal Troops, the National Guard will ostensibly include territorial SWAT and riot police, as well as federal security guard services

    Riot police is OMON, federal security guard services??
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    Post  franco Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:00 am

    George1 wrote:
    franco wrote:So the Private Security Guard division of the Police will also go to the National Guard... keeps getting bigger and bigger.

    http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160406/1037574204/russian-national-guard-explained.html

    In addition to the Internal Troops, the National Guard will ostensibly include territorial SWAT and riot police, as well as federal security guard services

    Riot police is OMON,  federal security guard services??

    During the Communist time there were no private security and alarm companies. After the change those Security services which had been part of the MVD, continued to be run by the MVD as Private Security services known as the FGUP. The business was obviously self sufficient financially and in co-ordination with the militia or police acted as additional eyes and ears for the MVD. A lot of their work would be for Federal, Regional and local government organizations, businesses and housing.
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    Post  franco Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:15 am

    "Now, of course, reconnaissance of the National Guard will be the subject of operative-investigative activities, because in the fight against extremism and terrorism can not be without it. This will make a full guard security service ", - he told the newspaper VIEW, former Commander of the Internal Troops, former Interior Minister Anatoly Kulikov, commenting on the presidential bill on the establishment of the National Guard.

    On Wednesday, the lower house of parliament was announced a bill to create a new power structure, which is made on the eve of President Vladimir Putin. If the document will come into force in this form, it will receive all the National Guard under the functions and powers available to the Interior Ministry troops, and take your piece of important directions of activity of the police department.

    "The troops will be better framework, methodology of training, discipline, weapons, polygons, equipment and everything else. Including its helicopters and airplanes "

    According to the newspaper VIEW, on the establishment of a new department, reporting directly to the president, it became known yesterday, when it was published a presidential decree on the formation of the Russian Guard.

    According to the decree, must be created by transforming the National Guard under the internal troops and joining them some units MIA, mainly power applications: SWAT, SWAT, rapid-reaction forces and aviation. In addition, the National Guard under the structure of units included licensing and permitting MVD system controlling arms trafficking and the activities of private security and private security.

    As calculated "Vedomosti", the Interior Troops is about 170 thousand people, riot police and SWAT -.. About 30 thousand people, while the number of private security, FSUE "Protection" and the licensing and permitting departments - about 200 thousand people..

    National Guard including the will and the fight against terrorism and organized crime. One of the objectives of the reform - to increase the efficiency of command and control, but the law has a transition period - for the first time operational riot police and SWAT submission will be for the Interior Ministry, although formally they go to the Guards.

    Former commander of internal troops of Russia, the former Deputy Prime Minister - Minister of the Interior, a former State Duma deputy, now head of the "Club of the Russian Federation military leaders" Anatoly Kulikov told the newspaper VIEW that difficulties can be faced at first the new guard.


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    Post  franco Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:45 pm

    The end result of this leaves the MVD as pretty much a pure Police Force of ~485,000 or less then 3.5 / 1,000. However this force is without SWAT or Riot units.

    The National Guard would be ~400,000 of which half would be paramilitary forces and the other half, a Security Guard Service.
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    Post  franco Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:37 pm

    Interesting view point of possible reasons for creating the National Guard;

    http://www.novayagazeta.ru/politics/72605.html
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    Post  Guest Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:50 am

    "The new Russian «Falcatus» armored car spotted during an operation in Dagestan. The new armored futuristic-looking personnel carrier designed for the country’s special forces.

    The «Falcatus» can carry 10 people into combat in various seating positions. Armored vehicle based on double-axle chassis KAMAZ-4911. The Federal Security Service (FSB) and Interior Ministry special units are suppressing thugs blocked in a suburb of Makhachkala, the capital of the Russian North Caucasus Republic of Dagestan, by force, Russia’s National Antiterrorism Committee (NAC) told TASS Wednesday.

    “In response to legitimate demands of the law enforcement officers to lay down arms and surrender to the authorities, the gunmen opened fire from automatic weapons. The FSB and Interior Ministry special units were forced to start suppressing the thugs by force,” NAC said. A spokesman for the NAC Operational Headquarters in Dagestan told TASS earlier that the regime of a counterterrorism operation has been introduced in the village of Leninkent in a suburb of Makhachkala.
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    Post  George1 Thu May 12, 2016 10:30 pm

    National Guard of Russia will receive new «Patrol» armored vehicles

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    The National Guard of Russia,  also known as the «Russian Guards»,  will receive new «Patrol» armored vehicles designed by the CJSC «Asteys»  as a private venture. that reported military-informant.com.

    «Patrol»  4×4 armored vehicle is made to deploy various missions, peace keeping operations and convoy escort. «Patrol»  is a Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicle / MRAP which is used primarily as a mounted infantry troop carrier and ground support vehicle for dismounted troops and can be easily configured as command and control vehicle, medical evacuation platform or as a forward observation platform (FOO).

    Russian  company started the production of «Patrol»  4×4 armored vehicle  in collaboration with OJSC “KAMAZ”. New armored vehicles will be produced for the  National Guard of Russia. According to the novocert.ru, 2 such vehicles were ordered and will be delivered by the end of 2016.

    •    Dimensions – 7160 x 2550 x 3420 mm.

    •    The base – 4180 mm.

    •    Mass of the vehicle in running order – no more than 11,200 kg.

    •    Technically permissible maximum vehicle weight – not more than 12,700 kg.

    •    Maximum trailer weight with brakes – 7000 kg.

    •    Engine:  8-cylinder V-type diesel engine in volume 11762 cm3 capacity of 191 kW (260 hp).


    The vehicle interior can be fully customized to specific requirements which include jump seats, benches and individual bucket seats with safety features for personnel protection during high speed and off-road maneuvers.
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    Post  franco Sat May 14, 2016 5:58 pm

    More research reveals more data in regards to the new force. It has not been completely determined yet or at least announced what units will be transferred into the National Guard but here are the prospective units. The announced authorized strength in 2015 of the Ministry of Interior (MVD) was 835,825 service personnel. The Migration Service (FMS) with ~18,000 service personnel and the Drug Enforcement Service (FSKN) with ~31,200 are being incorporated into the MVD to create a force of ~885,000 service people. Here are some units being mentioned as potential National Guard;

    Troops of the Interior (VV) ~170,000 personnel
    - 8 regional commands divided into 22 divisions and brigades. There are also 5 independent reaction divisions and brigades.
    - SPN (spetsnaz) ~9,000 personnel in 16 units
    - ON (light combat type) ~37,000 personnel in 28 units
    - SMM (military police type) ~34,000 personnel in 53 units
    - VOG (guard units) ~40,000 personnel in 55 units guarding around 110 sites of national security (mainly nuclear power plants,research and production facilities)
    - aviation ~100 aircraft and helicopters in 13 units
    - marine ~ 100 craft mostly guarding the waterways next to Nuclear Power Plants and closed cities (ZATO)

    Private Security Service (PSB or FGUP) ~238,000 personnel
    - Patrol Service ~125,000 personnel trained and equipped the same as regular police patrol officers.
    - Protection or Guard Service ~113,000 personnel guarding private or government owned facilities for payment. Includes Alarm services.
    - ~8,000 of these are in 5 Special Police Regiments serving in Chechnya presently under the control of the Chechen MVD (known to some as Kadyrov's Private Army)
    - Privately Owned Security Service Oversight (ie those Privately owned and Corporate Security Services)

    Police Special Units ~34,400 personnel
    - OMON ~24,200 personnel in 121 units. Two of these are national reaction units.
    - SOBR ~5,200 personnel in 87 units. One of these is a national reaction unit.
    - FSKN (Drug Enforcement) SWAT type forces ~3,000 personnel
    - GAI (Traffic Police) SWAT type forces ~ 300 personnel
    - Restricted Areas SWAT type forces ~500 personnel
    - Witness Protection Service SWAT type forces ~700 personnel
    - Chemical Weapons and Destruction SWAT type forces ~500 personnel
    - Aviation Unit assigned to National Special Police Reaction Units ~10 aircraft and helicopters

    Others
    Police Aviation Units ~35 with 80 or so aircraft mostly helicopters
    Police Harbor or Marine Units with ~200 small vessels

    Overview
    A division similar to this would effectively divide the MVD in two almost equal forces of a National Police with ~442,000 personnel and a National Guard with ~443,000 personnel.
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    Post  George1 Sat May 14, 2016 6:26 pm

    Spetsnaz units

    Dzerzhinsky Division (ODON), 604th Center
    7th OSN Rosich (Novocherkassk)
    12th OSN Ural (Nizhny Tagil)
    15th OSN Vyatich (Armavir)
    17th OSN Edelveys (Mineralnye Vody)
    19th OSN Ermak (Novosibirsk)
    20th OSN (Saratov)
    21st OSN Tayfun (Sosnovka)
    23rd OSN Mechel (Chelyabinsk)
    25th OSN Merkuriy (Smolensk)
    26th OSN Bars (Kazan)
    27th OSN Kuzbass (Kemerovo)
    28th OSN Ratnik (Arkhangelsk)
    29th OSN Bulat (Ufa)
    33rd OSN Peresvet (Moscow)
    34th OSN (Grozny)
    35th OSN (Simferopol, Crimea)


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    Post  franco Sat May 14, 2016 6:50 pm

    The 20th at Saratov was called "Vega", but is apparently no more and is replaced by the 35th "Rus" stationed in Simferopol, Crimea.

    The unit assigned to the ODON is called the 604th Center and is made up of what was originally two SN units, the 1st and the 8th. It's the national reaction force.

    There is also a unit at Stavropol called the 30th Special Regiment "Svyatogor" for which I have not yet identified it's exact role.
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    Post  George1 Wed May 18, 2016 4:02 pm

    Russia's New National Guard to Drill Alongside Chinese Counterparts

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160518/1039818927/russia-china-drills-guard.html#ixzz4913RYKrZ
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    Post  sepheronx Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:23 am

    I made an article on them. Please digest and give feedback:
    Russia’s “National Guard” – The Russian Guard
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    Post  KiloGolf Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:33 pm

    sepheronx wrote:I made an article on them.  Please digest and give feedback:
    Russia’s “National Guard” – The Russian Guard

    Make one for Ukraine's Na(z)tional Guard pirat
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    Post  sepheronx Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:29 pm

    If they were worth reporting and if they were something good, then maybe (but they are not Russian so...), but since they are an evil entity, no.
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    Post  KiloGolf Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:35 pm

    sepheronx wrote:If they were worth reporting and if they were something good, then maybe (but they are not Russian so...), but since they are an evil entity, no.

    I know. Still it'd be good to see what they got as opposing force.
    Ukr NG is purely a regime-protection organization established post-Maidan and carry out the first dirty jobs.
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    Post  sepheronx Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:41 pm

    The same guys who made people disappear or thrown out windows. This national guard is here to prevent the Maiden movement (foreign entity) from taking control of its country and turning it into Ukraine now.
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    Post  franco Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:47 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:If they were worth reporting and if they were something good, then maybe (but they are not Russian so...), but since they are an evil entity, no.

    I know. Still it'd be good to see what they got as opposing force.
    Ukr NG is purely a regime-protection organization established post-Maidan and carry out the first dirty jobs.

    Officially they have 52,000 troops divided into 5 regional commands. How many units are actually under government control is another topic?

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