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DPR Korea Space and Missiles
Cyberspec- Posts : 2904
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- Post n°101
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Looks like this is a full blown ICBM according to the South Koreans...it's pretty big deal
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George1- Posts : 18524
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- Post n°102
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North Korea shows off new ICBM at military parade
North Korea has rolled out its new Hwasong-15 intercontinental ballistic missile at a Pyongyang military parade,
TOKYO, February 8. /TASS/. North Korea has rolled out its new Hwasong-15 intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) at a Pyongyang military parade, which is being broadcast by the country’s Central Television.
The North Korean military demonstrated at least four launchers with Hwasong-15 ICBMs painted in their typical black hue and also several prime movers with Hwasong-14 intercontinental ballistic missiles.
The Hwasong-15 has a flying range of about 13,000 km and, theoretically, the entire territory of the US is within its reach. The Hwasong-14 has a flying range of about 10,000 km.
More:
http://tass.com/defense/989069
North Korea has rolled out its new Hwasong-15 intercontinental ballistic missile at a Pyongyang military parade,
TOKYO, February 8. /TASS/. North Korea has rolled out its new Hwasong-15 intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) at a Pyongyang military parade, which is being broadcast by the country’s Central Television.
The North Korean military demonstrated at least four launchers with Hwasong-15 ICBMs painted in their typical black hue and also several prime movers with Hwasong-14 intercontinental ballistic missiles.
The Hwasong-15 has a flying range of about 13,000 km and, theoretically, the entire territory of the US is within its reach. The Hwasong-14 has a flying range of about 10,000 km.
More:
http://tass.com/defense/989069
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- Post n°103
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Mysterious Missile Spotted Among ICBMs in North Korea's Military Parade
A possible copy of Iskander or a south Korean missile system.
https://sputniknews.com/military/201802091061522367-mysterious-missile-spotted-among-icbm-in-north-korea-military-parade/
A possible copy of Iskander or a south Korean missile system.
https://sputniknews.com/military/201802091061522367-mysterious-missile-spotted-among-icbm-in-north-korea-military-parade/
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- Post n°104
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d_taddei2 wrote:Mysterious Missile Spotted Among ICBMs in North Korea's Military Parade
A possible copy of Iskander or a south Korean missile system.
https://sputniknews.com/military/201802091061522367-mysterious-missile-spotted-among-icbm-in-north-korea-military-parade/
i spied it whilst watching the parade 1 hr 1 min 44 seconds in .. i was stunned to say the least
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- Post n°105
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Godric wrote:d_taddei2 wrote:Mysterious Missile Spotted Among ICBMs in North Korea's Military Parade
A possible copy of Iskander or a south Korean missile system.
https://sputniknews.com/military/201802091061522367-mysterious-missile-spotted-among-icbm-in-north-korea-military-parade/
i spied it whilst watching the parade 1 hr 1 min 44 seconds in .. i was stunned to say the least
Probably a shit copy. Russia would never give such thing to this crazy guy. Neither china would.
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- Post n°106
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Isos wrote:Godric wrote:d_taddei2 wrote:Mysterious Missile Spotted Among ICBMs in North Korea's Military Parade
A possible copy of Iskander or a south Korean missile system.
https://sputniknews.com/military/201802091061522367-mysterious-missile-spotted-among-icbm-in-north-korea-military-parade/
i spied it whilst watching the parade 1 hr 1 min 44 seconds in .. i was stunned to say the least
Probably a shit copy. Russia would never give such thing to this crazy guy. Neither china would.
latest reports is that it's a rip off the South Korea's Hyunmoo-2 missile system and not a cheap copy of the Iskander
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- Post n°107
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Godric wrote:Isos wrote:Godric wrote:d_taddei2 wrote:Mysterious Missile Spotted Among ICBMs in North Korea's Military Parade
A possible copy of Iskander or a south Korean missile system.
https://sputniknews.com/military/201802091061522367-mysterious-missile-spotted-among-icbm-in-north-korea-military-parade/
i spied it whilst watching the parade 1 hr 1 min 44 seconds in .. i was stunned to say the least
Probably a shit copy. Russia would never give such thing to this crazy guy. Neither china would.
latest reports is that it's a rip off the South Korea's Hyunmoo-2 missile system and not a cheap copy of the Iskander
Sputnik stated that it could be either Iskander or hyunmoo 2 either it's unlikely going to be good as either lol
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- Post n°108
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New missile which was displayed during last parade, hope they are good systems and much better than the Scuds. Syria will do good with lots of such missiles at their disposal.
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- Post n°109
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Iskander for comparison
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- Post n°110
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Hwasong-12
Hwasong-15
Hwasong-15
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- Post n°111
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And the best shots for last...
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- Post n°112
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I highly doubt it will be anywhere as good as Iskander but it does look fairly professional build.
Actually when I visited DPRK (some of my pics on forum) they actually had quite good build quality compared to there chinese neighbours I mostly because a lot of stuff is still built with simple machinery and by hand. They still produce bicycles from a 1970's design there was even new ghetto blasters (tape deck sound systems) and the country is the cleanest I've been to. The train station you could eat your dinner off the floor lol. Basic simple robust and it works. It's more modern than the western media portray
Also when I was there they had made their own tablet device and Chinese customers wanted it the quality was good and many chinese people when I mentioned it to them in dandong and Beijing they said it was 90-95% as good as an
I pad but cost a fraction of the price
Actually when I visited DPRK (some of my pics on forum) they actually had quite good build quality compared to there chinese neighbours I mostly because a lot of stuff is still built with simple machinery and by hand. They still produce bicycles from a 1970's design there was even new ghetto blasters (tape deck sound systems) and the country is the cleanest I've been to. The train station you could eat your dinner off the floor lol. Basic simple robust and it works. It's more modern than the western media portray
Also when I was there they had made their own tablet device and Chinese customers wanted it the quality was good and many chinese people when I mentioned it to them in dandong and Beijing they said it was 90-95% as good as an
I pad but cost a fraction of the price
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- Post n°113
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https://www.iiss.org/blogs/military-balance/2018/02/testing-north-korea
https://www.iiss.org/blogs/military-balance/2018/02/testing-north-korea
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- Post n°114
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Images reveal further details of North Korean missile launch
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- Post n°115
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New missile launches and artillery firing in the DPRK
[In the DPRK] The test launches of the new North Korean operational-tactical missile system continue, yesterday, on May 9, 2019, during missile and artillery firing, two missiles were launched at a distance of 270 and 420 km, while they were made from a tracked version of the launcher , in contrast to the start-up on May 4, which was produced from the wheel version of the PU. Also, judging by the photographs published by the TsTAK and Nodon Sinmun, as well as the DPRK television personnel, one gets the impression that this time they experienced the sequential launch of two missiles from the same launcher, since it is clear that different flaps were opened during the launch of different missiles.
https://twitter.com/ISNJH/status/1126714168944410625
Pyongyang, May 10th. / TsTAK / - Chairman of the Korean Workers' Party (TPK), Chairman of the State Council of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK), Supreme Commander of the DPRK Armed Forces, the highest leader of our party, state and armed forces Comrade Kim Jong Un on May 9 led the KPA defense units in the front and west sections of the front to deliver a fire strike.
The distinguished senior leader at the command post familiarized himself with the plan of the exercises for delivering fire strikes of various long-range percussion weapons and gave the order to begin the exercises.
Immediately, bright red streams of fire, with deafening thunder, began to cut the air toward the target.
These exercises were conducted in order to test and test the ability of KPA defensive units in the front and western sectors of the front to respond quickly in combination with a fire attack. The exercises were successfully held, fully demonstrating the power of the defensive units in the front and western sectors of the front, well prepared for the skillful conduct of any operation and battle with the high flame kindled by the party in utilitarian and practical exercises.
Dear senior manager, looking at the maneuver and deployment for a fire strike and fire attack, expressed satisfaction. A few days ago, the defensive units in the front and eastern sectors of the front satisfactorily fulfilled the task of firing, and today I see that the defensive units in the front and western parts of the front are also well prepared, in particular, the ability of the units in the front area to perform the firing task is high, praised he.
He stressed that in accordance with the requirement of the created situation and the strategic intention of the party, it is necessary to increase the ability of the defensive units in the front and western sectors of the front to perform the combat mission and to prepare their permanent combat readiness to respond proactively to any situation.
He noted that genuine peace and security of the country are guaranteed by strong physical force, able to defend their sovereignty, and said that the people's army and in the future, firmly holding weapons of revolution, should protect the socialist homeland and the armed forces reliably protect the heroic creative struggle of our people.
Dear senior manager, he set the guidelines for important tasks that further strengthen and develop the ability of KPA defensive units in the front and west sectors of the front to deliver a fire strike.
The teachings looked at the cadres of the Central Committee of the party, including Kim Pyong Ho, Oh Soo Yong and Kyaw Yong Won.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3637961.html
[In the DPRK] The test launches of the new North Korean operational-tactical missile system continue, yesterday, on May 9, 2019, during missile and artillery firing, two missiles were launched at a distance of 270 and 420 km, while they were made from a tracked version of the launcher , in contrast to the start-up on May 4, which was produced from the wheel version of the PU. Also, judging by the photographs published by the TsTAK and Nodon Sinmun, as well as the DPRK television personnel, one gets the impression that this time they experienced the sequential launch of two missiles from the same launcher, since it is clear that different flaps were opened during the launch of different missiles.
https://twitter.com/ISNJH/status/1126714168944410625
Pyongyang, May 10th. / TsTAK / - Chairman of the Korean Workers' Party (TPK), Chairman of the State Council of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK), Supreme Commander of the DPRK Armed Forces, the highest leader of our party, state and armed forces Comrade Kim Jong Un on May 9 led the KPA defense units in the front and west sections of the front to deliver a fire strike.
The distinguished senior leader at the command post familiarized himself with the plan of the exercises for delivering fire strikes of various long-range percussion weapons and gave the order to begin the exercises.
Immediately, bright red streams of fire, with deafening thunder, began to cut the air toward the target.
These exercises were conducted in order to test and test the ability of KPA defensive units in the front and western sectors of the front to respond quickly in combination with a fire attack. The exercises were successfully held, fully demonstrating the power of the defensive units in the front and western sectors of the front, well prepared for the skillful conduct of any operation and battle with the high flame kindled by the party in utilitarian and practical exercises.
Dear senior manager, looking at the maneuver and deployment for a fire strike and fire attack, expressed satisfaction. A few days ago, the defensive units in the front and eastern sectors of the front satisfactorily fulfilled the task of firing, and today I see that the defensive units in the front and western parts of the front are also well prepared, in particular, the ability of the units in the front area to perform the firing task is high, praised he.
He stressed that in accordance with the requirement of the created situation and the strategic intention of the party, it is necessary to increase the ability of the defensive units in the front and western sectors of the front to perform the combat mission and to prepare their permanent combat readiness to respond proactively to any situation.
He noted that genuine peace and security of the country are guaranteed by strong physical force, able to defend their sovereignty, and said that the people's army and in the future, firmly holding weapons of revolution, should protect the socialist homeland and the armed forces reliably protect the heroic creative struggle of our people.
Dear senior manager, he set the guidelines for important tasks that further strengthen and develop the ability of KPA defensive units in the front and west sectors of the front to deliver a fire strike.
The teachings looked at the cadres of the Central Committee of the party, including Kim Pyong Ho, Oh Soo Yong and Kyaw Yong Won.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3637961.html
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- Post n°116
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With a nuke warhead it does not need to be as accurate as Iskander to be effective....
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- Post n°117
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I don't think they succeeded in miniaturizing it that much. A conventionally armed BM that is accurate with HE/fragmentation warhead can still destroy a high value target.
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- Post n°118
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So it looks like an iskander but, does it fly at a quasi ballistic path like Iskander?
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- Post n°119
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North Korean test KN-23 SRBM has a range of more than 690km, which is more than Iskander, but the two missiles still have differences.
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- Post n°120
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Iskander would have a bigger range if the INF treaty didn't exist when it was developed... its range might increase soon now too... in fact I think at the start of August the US withdraws from the INF treaty formally and fully, so I expect Russia to do the same shortly after.
It should be pointed out that the Oka missile looks very similar, NATO codename Spider SS-23, but has grid fins for flight control that was actually the replacement for the Scud. The Iskander is based on the Oka with an alternative lower drag method of flight control to allow more manouvering with less drag and therefore less speed loss in flight.
Improvements in propellent should have extended its flight range well beyond 500km but it uses this extra energy to perform more manouvers to make it more difficult to shoot down.
It should be pointed out that the Oka missile looks very similar, NATO codename Spider SS-23, but has grid fins for flight control that was actually the replacement for the Scud. The Iskander is based on the Oka with an alternative lower drag method of flight control to allow more manouvering with less drag and therefore less speed loss in flight.
Improvements in propellent should have extended its flight range well beyond 500km but it uses this extra energy to perform more manouvers to make it more difficult to shoot down.
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- Post n°121
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Russia Stays Mute on N Korean Launch of Apparent Iskander-Type Missiles
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- Post n°123
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"New weapons": North Korea conducted missile tests under the leadership of Kim Jong-un
https://russian.rt.com/world/article/657980-rakety-ispytania-kndr
https://russian.rt.com/world/article/657980-rakety-ispytania-kndr
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N Korea Appears To Have Built Its First Real Ballistic Missile Submarine
It could hide in the Yellow Sea, a de-facto bastion, & still strike SK & Japan:
https://metro.co.uk/2017/09/15/north-korea-missile-range-maps-2017-where-can-kim-jong-un-reach-6930548/
https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/kn-11/
This shows 2x less range:
It could hide in the Yellow Sea, a de-facto bastion, & still strike SK & Japan:
https://metro.co.uk/2017/09/15/north-korea-missile-range-maps-2017-where-can-kim-jong-un-reach-6930548/
https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/kn-11/
This shows 2x less range:
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The first test of the North Korean ballistic missile submarine "Pukkykson-3"
It is reported that on the morning of October 2, 2019, the DPRK made the first flight test of a new ballistic missile of the Pukkykson-3 submarines (Bukgykson-3, Pukkuksong-3). According to information from the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the Armed Forces of South Korea, the missile was launched from a submerged position from a submerged submarine near Wonsan in the Sea of Japan off the east coast of the DPRK. The missile flew 450 km along the “high-altitude” trajectory, reaching the highest altitude of 910 km. This gives an estimated range of about 2100 km along a "normal" ballistic trajectory.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3794634.html
It is reported that on the morning of October 2, 2019, the DPRK made the first flight test of a new ballistic missile of the Pukkykson-3 submarines (Bukgykson-3, Pukkuksong-3). According to information from the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the Armed Forces of South Korea, the missile was launched from a submerged position from a submerged submarine near Wonsan in the Sea of Japan off the east coast of the DPRK. The missile flew 450 km along the “high-altitude” trajectory, reaching the highest altitude of 910 km. This gives an estimated range of about 2100 km along a "normal" ballistic trajectory.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3794634.html