Pantsir-S1 News Thread:

Cyberspec wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

GarryB wrote:Written by the Russian media equivalent of Vann I suspect...

No, it was written by someone from the mod staff, that's why I remembered it

If it were Vann I couldn't have cared less

It was Vladimir

dino00 wrote:PANTSIR-SM Performance characteristics:


KILL DISTANCE                           UP TO 40 KM
KILL ALTITUDE.                           UP TO 15 KM

SPEED OF TARGETS.                 UP TO 2000 m/s
NUMBER OF CHANNELS.         4

Expected more altitude, can shoot ~Mack 6 targets what a Beast!

magnumcromagnon wrote:

dino00 wrote:PANTSIR-SM Performance characteristics:


KILL DISTANCE                           UP TO 40 KM
KILL ALTITUDE.                           UP TO 15 KM

SPEED OF TARGETS.                 UP TO 2000 m/s
NUMBER OF CHANNELS.         4

Expected more altitude, can shoot ~Mack 6 targets what a Beast!

Speed of targest...2km/s? As you already posted it'll fire missiles at 3km/s which is effectively Mach 9, which means it'll be able to engage targets easily double the Mach 6 speed (Mach 12-16 more precisely).

https://www.russiadefence.net/t1878p950-pantsir-s1-news-thread#257767

dino00 wrote:PANTSIR-SM Performance characteristics:


KILL DISTANCE                           UP TO 40 KM
KILL ALTITUDE.                           UP TO 15 KM

SPEED OF TARGETS.                 UP TO 2000 m/s
NUMBER OF CHANNELS.         4

Expected more altitude, can shoot ~Mack 6 targets what a Beast!

Isos wrote:The targets need to be on the same side to engage 6 of them at the same time.

If it has 1 coming from the front and 1 behind, it won't be able to engage both. So it needs very well coordination with other pantsirs. I think israeli used such tactic when attacking syrian pantsirs.

Isos wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Isos wrote:The targets need to be on the same side to engage 6 of them at the same time.

If it has 1 coming from the front and 1 behind, it won't be able to engage both. So it needs very well coordination with other pantsirs. I think israeli used such tactic when attacking syrian pantsirs.

If your talking about optical engagement you would be correct, but command posts circumvents that problem with radar guidance.

What do you mean ? A single pantsir has 1 fixed engagement radar. If wants to engage another target it need either to wait the hit of the first or be able to see both targets with its radar.

Isos wrote:The targets need to be on the same side to engage 6 of them at the same time.

If it has 1 coming from the front and 1 behind, it won't be able to engage both. So it needs very well coordination with other pantsirs. I think israeli used such tactic when attacking syrian pantsirs.

GarryB wrote:Also keep in mind that very high missile flight speed means engagement times are much shorter so more targets can be engaged per minute than with a slower missile.

For instance comparing a system launching Kornet missiles at a group of hovering helos at 9km range compared with a SOSNA-R system launching Pine missiles at the same group... the Kornet missile moves at about 350m/s so to engage a target at 9km would take about 30 seconds.

If both systems could engage one target at a time then the Kornet system could engage two targets per minute but the Pine system with an engagement time of 8 seconds at about 10km range means 60/8 = 7.5, so over 7 targets per minute can be engaged.

With flight speeds of 3km/s targets in the middle range should be intercepted rather quickly, so a group of low flying targets at 10km might only take 5 seconds from detection to tracking to launch and kill so while on paper it can engage 4 targets at one time, lets be generous and say one complete engagement per ten seconds, so four times 6 is 24 targets per minute per TEL is pretty damn good, but I agree the domestic model could probably do rather better... shorter ranges and longer ranges will effect the engagement rate of course and some targets might need to be re-engaged...