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    Russian Naval Infantry

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    Post  KiloGolf Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:37 am

    kvasstank wrote:Russian Naval Infantry - Page 6 0_1f5515
    http://pressa-tof.livejournal.com/283381.html

    For a spearhead force their MBTs are appallingly dated.
    B3 would be the minimum for these guys and yet they don't have them.

    sepheronx wrote:Seems they are slowly modernizing the naval infantry, as the troops looks better equipped.  Although, they still need upgraded tanks.  T-72B3M may be more ideal.  Or eventually transfer T-90's to them and upgrade to T-72's for the army.  Dunno, but I always did see the Naval infantry more like the poverty brigade.

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    Was it T-55M or T-62M they operated as recently as a few years ago?

    Hobo brigade lol1

    PS. I ironically the US Marines complain about their tank force being a step behind Army's since the 90s.
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    Post  DerWolf Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:33 pm

    Hoe does that these landing ships don't stuck in the beach? https://servimg.com/view/19247925/12#
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    Post  kvasstank Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:44 pm

    Marines overcame formidable obstacle to competition "Baltic derby"
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    Post  Project Canada Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:49 am



    In Russia, developed a new floating armored vehicle BT-3F

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    Concern "Tractor plants" developed on the basis of the naval variant of infantry fighting vehicle BMP-3F new floating tracked armored personnel carrier BT-3F. This was reported by TASS source in the Russian military-industrial complex.
    "Concern" Tractor plants "completes the design of BT-3F armored personnel carriers and plans to show it at the international military-technical forum the Russian Defense Ministry, which will be held in Moscow in the park" Patriot "from 6 to 11 September", - said the source. - It can partially replace the BTR-80 on Marine Russian Navy. We hope that the Ministry of Defence will pay attention to the new machine. "

    "Mass production and mass supply of armored personnel carriers BT-3F Russian troops can be established as soon as possible, due to the high level of unification of the new platform with the BMP-3"

    According to the representative of UIC, combat weight of BT-3F is 18.5 tons, booking machines provides comprehensive protection from bullets of caliber 14.5 mm heavy machine gun KPVT fired from a distance of 200 m.

    http://www.arms-expo.ru/news/novye_razrabotki/v_rossii_razrabatyvaetsya_novyy_plavayushchiy_bronetransporter_bt_3f


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    Post  eehnie Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:53 pm

    Project Canada wrote:

    In Russia, developed a new floating armored vehicle BT-3F

    Russian Naval Infantry - Page 6 83652c74188a903eef6264fcb4c921c0

    Concern "Tractor plants" developed on the basis of the naval variant of infantry fighting vehicle BMP-3F new floating tracked armored personnel carrier BT-3F. This was reported by TASS source in the Russian military-industrial complex.
    "Concern" Tractor plants "completes the design of BT-3F armored personnel carriers and plans to show it at the international military-technical forum the Russian Defense Ministry, which will be held in Moscow in the park" Patriot "from 6 to 11 September", - said the source. - It can partially replace the BTR-80 on Marine Russian Navy. We hope that the Ministry of Defence will pay attention to the new machine. "

    "Mass production and mass supply of armored personnel carriers BT-3F Russian troops can be established as soon as possible, due to the high level of unification of the new platform with the BMP-3"

    According to the representative of UIC, combat weight of BT-3F is 18.5 tons, booking machines provides comprehensive protection from bullets of caliber 14.5 mm heavy machine gun KPVT fired from a distance of 200 m.

    http://www.arms-expo.ru/news/novye_razrabotki/v_rossii_razrabatyvaetsya_novyy_plavayushchiy_bronetransporter_bt_3f



    It would make sense to traslate this concept to the modern BMD-4M platform. It would make sense. Even it would be interesting to make them airdropable to the sea.

    Also it would make sense to provide the Naval Infantry with other vehicles of the BMD-4M platform of different roles.

    I have the feeling that Airborne Troops and Marine Infantry have many things in common, and that it would be possible to merge both in something like  Airborne/Shipborne Troops, with the same troops trained for both transport ways and common roles.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Sep 02, 2016 11:45 am

    During the Georgian conflict they cooperated quite a lot and afterwards greatly increased training together... merging equipment and vehicle needs would be sensible in my opinion.
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    Post  eehnie Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:48 am

    https://southfront.org/military-analysis-russian-marines/

    Equipment by type:

    • MBT 200 T-72/T80

    • RECCE 60 BRDM-2 each with 9K11 (AT-3 Sagger)

    • AIFV 300 BMP-2

    • APC 800; APC (T) 300 MT-LB; APC (W) 500 BTR-80

    • ARTY 365; SP 263: 122mm 113: 95 2S1; 18 2S19; 152mm 150: 50 2A36; 50 2A65; 50 2S3

    • GUN/MOR 66; SP 120mm 42: 12 2S23 NONA-SVK; 30 2S9 NONA-S

    • TOWED; 120mm 24 2B16 NONA-K. MRL 122mm 36 BM-21

    • AT; MSL SP 9P149 with 9K114 Shturn (AT-6 Spiral); MANPATS 9K11 (AT-3 Sagger); 9K113 (AT-5 Spandrel). GUNS 100mm T-12

    • AD; SAM SP 70: 20 9K33 Osa (SA-8 Gecko); 50 Strela-1/Strela-10 (SA-9 Gaskin/SA-13 Gopher). MANPAD 9K32 Strela-2 (SA-7 Grail). GUNS 23mm 60 ZSU-23-4

    It seems that the BTR-70, BTR-60 and other older warfare is not more with them.

    Surprised with the mention still to the SA-9.
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    Post  George1 Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:05 am

    Amphibious operation in Crimea. Final stage of the strategic exercise "Caucasus-2016"

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    Post  kvasstank Sat Sep 17, 2016 6:35 pm

    Joint-sea 2016
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    Post  kvasstank Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:27 pm

    Elite marines from Russia & China take part in joint navy cooperation drills


    China: 'Joint Sea 2016' drills continue in Zhanjiang
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    Post  kvasstank Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:23 pm

    Military doctors Marine Baltic Fleet conducted exercises
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    Post  franco Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:39 pm

    All Naval Infantry equipped with Warrior or Ratnik combat gear;
    https://rg.ru/2016/11/26/vse-rossijskie-morpehi-poluchili-novuiu-boevuiu-ekipirovku-ratnik.html
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    Post  franco Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:30 pm

    Today is Naval Infantry day and to celebrate, a video;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzpQoEm68xY

    And the article from the Ministry of Defense website;

    http://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12104868@egNews
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    Post  kvasstank Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:11 pm

    Marines of the Pacific Fleet set a record for skydiving
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    Post  franco Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:40 pm

    An article on the Russian Naval Infantry's present status just for George Smile

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2348764.html
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    Post  George1 Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:41 pm

    franco wrote:An article on the Russian Naval Infantry's present status just for George Smile

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2348764.html
    \

    Thank you friend!!
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:23 pm

    franco wrote:An article on the Russian Naval Infantry's present status just for George Smile

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2348764.html

    Interesting I thought the Russian Marines had more modern gear.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:00 am

    They are better know as fierce fighters than as state of the art equipped ones... but that will change too.
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    Post  eehnie Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:05 am

    I would expect the Russian Naval Infantry to be armed with the warfare developed on the BMD-4M platform.

    In fact even it is possible a merge between the Airborne and the "Shipborne Troops" (Naval Infantry).
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    Post  eehnie Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:49 pm

    In fact the BMD-4M, BTR-MD, Typhoon-K (6x6 Kamaz 63968) and the Typhoon-U (6x6 Ural 63096) are emerging like the basis of the future light armoured vehicles, in the refered to the infantry vehicles. These are the main vehicles that are emerging on the new light platforms for the Russian Armed Forces (BMD-4M and Typhoon). There is a strong effort finding other light solutions, but nothing better is emerging. Also, it will be a bigger development for vehicles of other roles based on the BMD-4M and the Typhoon 6x6 platforms. As example, we begin to see self propelled artillery pieces on the BMD-4M platform.

    I tend to think that this basis will be adopted by the Naval Infantry, the Airborne Troops and the special military forces that need vehicles smaller than the Kurganets and the Boomerang.

    These are the main vehicles that are emerging on the new light platforms for the Russian Armed Forces (BMD-4M and Typhoon). We also begin to see self propelled artillery pieces on the BMD-4M platform, and it will be a bigger development.

    It is the right time to stop the procurement of the MT-LB and the BTR-80, including their most modern variants (plus the 2S23 and the SA-13). I do not expect to see them in the next armament program. I expect to see the vehicles based on the BMD-4M and the Typhoon 6x6 platforms.
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    Post  nastle77 Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:24 pm

    During the Soviet period did the marines have any swift boats? Small boats that are fast And equipped with machine guns rocket launchers that can be used as interceptors in brown waters?
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    Post  AlfaT8 Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:15 am

    nastle77 wrote:During the Soviet period did the marines have any swift boats?  Small boats that are fast And equipped with machine guns rocket launchers that can be used as interceptors in brown waters?

    Currently we have Project 1400M in the Northern Fleet and Project 1204 in the Caspian flotilla, the 1204 being better armed and more what you're looking for.

    http://rusnavy.com/nowadays/strength/surfaceships/ak-388/
    http://rusnavy.com/nowadays/strength/surfaceships/ak-248/

    In WW2 we have the "Riverine Tanks" Project 1124/5 and S-40.

    http://www.wio.ru/fleet/ww2armorb.htm
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    Post  nastle77 Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:10 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    nastle77 wrote:During the Soviet period did the marines have any swift boats?  Small boats that are fast And equipped with machine guns rocket launchers that can be used as interceptors in brown waters?

    Currently we have Project 1400M in the Northern Fleet and Project 1204 in the Caspian flotilla, the 1204 being better armed and more what you're looking for.

    http://rusnavy.com/nowadays/strength/surfaceships/ak-388/
    http://rusnavy.com/nowadays/strength/surfaceships/ak-248/

    In WW2 we have the "Riverine Tanks" Project 1124/5 and S-40.

    http://www.wio.ru/fleet/ww2armorb.htm

    Well the zhuk class and p4 class boats of postwar soviet era also fulfill this role right ?
    Did the Soviets still have komar class boats till the end of the cold war?
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    Post  kvasstank Sat May 20, 2017 9:37 pm

    Vladivostok. Victory Parade 2017
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    Post  GarryB Sun May 21, 2017 1:22 am

    Hoe does that these landing ships don't stuck in the beach?

    They have internal ballast tanks that allow them to sink the rear and raise the fronts when the cargo of vehicles drive off, so they can close the nose doors and sink the rear to take the weight off the nose and reverse away.

    The SA-9 and SA-13 are still rather useful vehicles that carry missiles that are still very effective against enemy aircraft while being light and relatively cheap and very mobile.

    Considering these forces were going to get two Mistral class carriers with Ka-52K support attack helos and can use naval tube and rocket artillery for support they are not that bad off.

    Generally you should not compare them with first line NATO forces because they will tend to land in remote areas and then form a beach head where more conventional forces are landed to then take an airfield inland or to attack a port or some such thing.

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