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    Post  George1 Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:18 pm

    flamming_python wrote:I smell Cyprus has joined the Greek game and has decided to break the EU's balls by threatening to move closer to Russia, in order to gain a better negotiating position for the haggling over loans, bankrupkt banks and economic issues.

    Which can only be good, even though they're likely not serious about the proposal to Russia. In any case they're still harming the EU; by breaking the myth/illusion of unity in Europe and weakening the power of Brussels over its vassals.
    We're now already seeing 2 of the peripheries invoking Russia in order to gain more leverage against the centre.. how many more will there be? Will Orban join the game next?

    Of course, if the EU decides to call Greece's and Cyprus's bluffs.. they might just move closer to Russia for real.

    Not exactly. Cyprus plays the Russian card in order to push USA and Britain to take more favorable position in UN voting. Just rumors, nothing will be done and Russia in no way is going to start a confrontation for Cyprus against Britain which has already 2 military bases there


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    Post  Hannibal Barca Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:26 pm

    Indeed. But even this is some kind of progress.
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    Post  par far Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:02 pm

    Could Russia share a military base with China somewhere in Latin America?
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:00 pm

    George1 wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:I smell Cyprus has joined the Greek game and has decided to break the EU's balls by threatening to move closer to Russia, in order to gain a better negotiating position for the haggling over loans, bankrupkt banks and economic issues.

    Which can only be good, even though they're likely not serious about the proposal to Russia. In any case they're still harming the EU; by breaking the myth/illusion of unity in Europe and weakening the power of Brussels over its vassals.
    We're now already seeing 2 of the peripheries invoking Russia in order to gain more leverage against the centre.. how many more will there be? Will Orban join the game next?

    Of course, if the EU decides to call Greece's and Cyprus's bluffs.. they might just move closer to Russia for real.

    Not exactly. Cyprus plays the Russian card in order to pish USA and Britain to take more favorable position in UN voting. Just rumors, nothing will be done and Russia in no way is going to start a confrontation for Cyprus against Britain which has already 2 military bases there

    But you forget the banking crisis, and how Cyprus financiers got snubbed by EU and America, and don't forget the only reason why Northern Cyprus is occupied by Turkey is because the Atlantacist's (Anglo-Saxon supremacist America and Great Britain) backed, supported with logistics for the Neo-Ottoman/Grey Wolf invasion with their full support. The Greek diaspora can only be the Anglo-Saxon's whipping boy for so long.
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    Post  George1 Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:30 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote: But you forget the banking crisis, and how Cyprus financiers got snubbed by EU and America, and don't forget the only reason why Northern Cyprus is occupied by Turkey is because the Atlantacist's (Anglo-Saxon supremacist America and Great Britain) backed, supported with logistics for the Neo-Ottoman/Grey Wolf invasion with their full support. The Greek diaspora can only be the Anglo-Saxon's whipping boy for so long.

    Υes but when Cyprus leadership asked Russia for help in March 2013, Putin answered them to recieve aid from IMF (and Russia is a member of IMF). Smile
    Left wing communist president also D.Christofias during his term 2008-2013 had publicly stated that he didnt receive positive response from Russia or China and characterized these countries as "communicating vessels" with the western economic powers
    The only brothers and allies of free Cyprus are Greeks, none else
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:55 pm

    George1 wrote:
    The only brothers and allies of free Cyprus are Greeks, none else

    Meanwhile Greece is in NATO, the entity that backed and supported the invasion of Northern Cyprus, the same Greece that was bullied by Turkey and NATO to agree to get rid of the Cypriot inventory of S-300's, which was a true game-changing trump card against the Turks...so what your saying really doesn't cut the mustard. As far as the claims of the last president, the whole bailout scheme was a financial attack on Russian wealth stored in Cyprus where Russian wealth was destroyed as one of the pre-conditions for the bailout (a indirect attack on Russia for supporting Assad in Syria). The fact that so much Russian wealth was destroyed, combined with the fact the Cyprus was a likely spearhead launch pad for NATO attack on Syria (which they would likely coordinate with the Turks) was more than enough reason for Russia to give Cyprus the cold-shoulder. Had the last president actually followed through with his promise to shut down the UK bases like he promised than Russia would of likely helped Cyprus with a generous loan.

    BTW where you do get off blaming Russia for the lack of unity? The European Orthodox sphere is the one that betrayed Russia, not the other way around. For all the centuries Russia defended Orthodox Christians from the Ottomans, but in return how many Orthodox European countries are now in NATO and above all allied with the Grey Wolf Neo-Ottoman Turkey (which stationed Jupiter missiles towards Russia at one point), led by Caliph Erdogan? You have the likes of Orthodox Christian Romania (alongside Russia) was a country that has one of the longest histories fighting the Ottoman's, but now (the Romanians) are extremely hostile and Russophobic, and also allied with Turkey (despite their history) both having ABM's directed towards Russia (for a potential first strike option by NATO). Where's the Orthodox brotherhood and unity here? With friends like that who needs enemies? How about Greece leave NATO and Cyprus close all their NATO bases first, then let's talk?
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    Post  George1 Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:26 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    George1 wrote:
    The only brothers and allies of free Cyprus are Greeks, none else

    Meanwhile Greece is in NATO, the entity that backed and supported the invasion of Northern Cyprus, the same Greece that was bullied by Turkey and NATO to agree to get rid of the Cypriot inventory of S-300's, which was a true game-changing trump card against the Turks...so what your saying really doesn't cut the mustard. As far as the claims of the last president, the whole bailout scheme was a financial attack on Russian wealth stored in Cyprus where Russian wealth was destroyed as one of the pre-conditions for the bailout (a indirect attack on Russia for supporting Assad in Syria). The fact that so much Russian wealth was destroyed, combined with the fact the Cyprus was a likely spearhead launch pad for NATO attack on Syria (which they would likely coordinate with the Turks) was more than enough reason for Russia to give Cyprus the cold-shoulder. Had the last president actually followed through with his promise to shut down the UK bases like he promised than Russia would of likely helped Cyprus with a generous loan.

    BTW where you do get off blaming Russia for the lack of unity? The European Orthodox sphere is the one that betrayed Russia, not the other way around. For all the centuries Russia defended Orthodox Christians from the Ottomans, but in return how many Orthodox European countries are now in NATO and above all allied with the Grey Wolf Neo-Ottoman Turkey (which stationed Jupiter missiles towards Russia at one point), led by Caliph Erdogan? You have the likes of Orthodox Christian Romania (alongside Russia) was a country that has one of the longest histories fighting the Ottoman's, but now (the Romanians) are extremely hostile and Russophobic, and also allied with Turkey (despite their history) both having ABM's directed towards Russia (for a potential first strike option by NATO). Where's the Orthodox brotherhood and unity here? With friends like that who needs enemies? How about Greece leave NATO and Cyprus close all their NATO bases first, then let's talk?

    i didnt blame russia, i just say that Russia support russian interests and i find it logic like USA and other powers do. No cold, no hot for me. Not negative but not positive. Concerning The European Orthodox sphere, this says nothing to me. There wasnt ever any Orthodox military alliance and during cold war that NATO was created only Greece was officialy orthodox in Europe. USSR didnt promote Orthodox solidarity i guess
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:02 am

    George1 wrote:
    i didnt blame russia, i just say that Russia support russian interests and i find it logic like USA and other powers do. No cold, no hot for me. Not negative but not positive. Concerning The European Orthodox sphere, this says nothing to me. There wasnt ever any Orthodox military alliance and during cold war that NATO was created only Greece was officialy orthodox in Europe. USSR didnt promote Orthodox solidarity i guess

    The Orthodox sphere had a military alliance, it was called the Byzantine Empire, which was destroyed by the oligarchical financiers and merchants of Venice, through the historic betrayal known as the '4th Crusade'. Guess which European country follows the same exact geo-stragic manipulation methodology of the Venetians?

    How the Venetian System Was Transplanted Into England

    The whole collapse of Orthodox sphere was a consequence of WW1, a war created by the British to weaken Germany and Russia (historic allies against Britain) by pitting them against each other, Orthodox unity was exhausted after WW1 (due to the casualties sustained on the Russian side), which led to Marxism prevailing. So instead of just figting the Ottomans alone, Anglophile agents in St.Petersburg convinced Russia to fight Germany, which ultimately left the Russian people estranged to ideas of Orthodox brotherhood:

    King Edward VII of Great Britain: Evil Demiurge of the Triple Entente and World War 1

    Another aspect of the collapse of the Orthodox sphere was that Karl Marx was an agent of British intelligence. The only reason why people know who Karl Marx is was because he was supported and propped up by none other than David Urquhart, the head of the British Foreign Office, and the most influential Russophobe in Europe. His spiritual successor is none other than the infamous Zbignew Brzezinski.

    How interesting that Urquhart should be the controller of British agent Karl Marx, who earns his keep as a writer for Urquhart’s paper. David Urquhart is the founder of modern communism! It is Urquhart who will prescribe the plan for “Das Kapital.” Marx is a professed admirer of Urquhart – acknowledging his influence more than that of any other living person. Marx will even compose a “Life of Lord Palmerston,” based on Urquhart’s wild obsession that Pam is a Russian agent of influence. This says enough about Marx’s acumen as a political analyst. Marx and Urquhart agree that there is no real absolute profit in capitalism, and that technological progress causes a falling rate of profit.

    Lord Palmerston’s Multicultural Human Zoo

    Just like Zbignew, Urquhart loved to demonize Russia and usually praised Islamic imperialism:

    He (David Urquhart) secured a post at the British Embassy in Constantinople and “went native,” becoming an Ottoman pasha in his lifestyle. Urquhart’s positive contribution to civilization was his popularization of the Turkish bath. He also kept a harem for some time. Urquhart also thought that late Ottoman feudalism was a model of what civilization ought to be. In Turkey, Urquhart became convinced that all the evil in the world had a single root: Russia, the machinations of the court of St. Petersburg.

    Lord Palmerston’s Multicultural Human Zoo
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    Post  George1 Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:22 am

    Interactive: Russia's foreign military bases

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/interactive/2014/05/interactive-russia-foreign-military-bases-201459104513678477.html
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    Post  George1 Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:20 pm

    Russian Military Bases Abroad: How Many and Where?

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20151219/1032030941/russian-bases-abroad.html#ixzz3urnw9rub
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    Post  George1 Tue Aug 16, 2016 12:33 pm

    Russian upper house lawmakers are ready to ratify an agreement with Iran to deploy the Russian Aerospace Forces’ grouping at the Hamadan airbase, a Russian senator on the security committee said Tuesday.

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20160816/1044312879/russia-aircraft-iran-hamadan.html
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    Post  George1 Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:16 pm

    Russian Defense Ministry may return to foreign bases of USSR times

    The ministry considers the option to return military bases to the countries, where they were in the Soviet Union times, including Vietnam or Cuba

    MOSCOW, October 7. /TASS/. Russia's Defense Ministry considers the option to return military bases to the countries, where they were in the Soviet Union times, Deputy Defense Minister Nikolai Pankov told the State Duma legislators.

    "We are working on this, we do see this problem," he said in response to a question whether the military authority planned to return to the bases in the countries like Vietnam or Cuba.

    Earlier, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said Russian plans developing military bases abroad, including Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Armenia.

    President Vladimir Putin in summer, 2014 said Moscow did not have plans to restore its base in Cuba’s Lourdes.
    Bases in Latin America, Southeast Asia, Africa

    The deputy chairman of the State Duma’s international affairs committee, Aleksey Chepa, has called for restoring Russian military bases in Latin America, Southeast Asia and Africa.

    He came out with this initiative at a session of the lower house while discussing the issue of ratifying the Russian-Syrian agreement on the open-ended deployment of Russia’s air group in Syria.

    "It is necessary to consider the issue of our presence in other regions of the world," Chepa said. "I believe that it would meet Russia’s national interests to restore our military bases in Latin America, Southeast Asia and Africa."

    On Friday, October 7, the Russian State Duma considers ratification of an agreement on termless deployment of the Russian air grouping in Syria. The document was signed on August 26, 2015 in Damascus, and on August 9, 2016, President Vladimir Putin presented it to the parliament’s lower house for further consideration.


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    http://tass.com/defense/904789
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    Post  George1 Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:06 pm

    Moscow cements deal with Damascus to keep 49-year presence at Syrian naval and air bases

    Russia will use naval base in Tartus and Syria’s Hmeymim base on disinterested terms

    MOSCOW, January 20. /TASS/. Russia and Syria have signed an agreement on expanding the territory of the Russian Navy’s logistics facility in Tartus for 49 years. The document was published on the official legal information portal.

    "The current agreement will stay effective for 49 years and be automatically prolonged for 25-year periods, if neither party makes a twelve months’ notice in writing through diplomatic channels of its intention to terminate the agreement’s operation," the document runs.

    "Russia will use the facilities subject to joint use on the disinterested basis," the agreement says.

    "The logistic facility shall enjoy full immunity from the civil and administrative jurisdiction of Syria. Its movable and immovable property enjoys immunity from search, requisition, arrest or executory measures," the document states.

    Up to 11 Russian vessels including nuclear ships will simultaneously stop at the naval facility in Syria’s Tartus. "The maximum number of Russian warships allowed to stay simultaneously at the maintenance base is 11, including nuclear-powered combat ships, provided that nuclear and environmental safety is complied with," the document says.

    "The Russian side has the right to bring to the logistics facility through the territory of Syria and evacuate from the logistic facility across Syria any weapons, ammunition, equipment and materials crucial to maintaining the security of the personnel and their families, crewmembers and Russian contractors and to performing missions by Russian ships without any duties levied by the Syrian side."

    Hmeymim aerodrome

    Russia and Syria have signed an agreement for 49 years on the presence of Russia’s aerospace group at Syria’s Hmeymim base. The document was published on the legal information portal on Friday.

    Under the arrangement Syria will let Russia use part of the Hmeymim airdrome and ground facilities on disinterested terms.

    "Perimeter protection of places of deployment of the Russian aerospace group is ensured by the Syrian side. The Russian side ensures air defense of places of deployment of the Russian aerospace group, interior guard and law and order at places of deployment of the Russian aerospace group," the document says.

    According to the protocol, the Syrian side will be responsible for outer protection of the coastal borders of places of deployment of the logistics center.

    The Tartus base will be maintained through Russia’s forces and resources, the document says.

    "The Russian side has the right to send to the Syrian Arab Republic and maintain at its expense the required personnel of the maintenance center," the document says.

    The Russia-Syria agreement on the presence of Russia’s aerospace group at Syria’s Hmeymim base will operate for 49 years and will be prolonged for subsequent 25-year periods, if neither party makes a twelve months’ notice in writing through diplomatic channels of its intention to terminate its operation.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin issued an instruction to sign a protocol to the agreement on deployment of a Russian aerospace group in Syria in December 2016. The protocol regulates issues of deployment of the Russian aviation group and its property, as well as logistics issues.


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    Post  George1 Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:56 am

    President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday signed an agreement with Syria which will give the Russian military access to an airbase on the Mediterranean for another half a century.

    According to the document published on the official government website, Russia will continue to lease the Khmeimim Air Base, in the Latakia province, until at least 2066.

    The Syrian government conceded to lend the base in Latakia province free of charge.

    Russia’s intervention in the Syrian war in 2015 on the side of Bashar al-Assad has been marred by accusations its Air Force deliberately targeted aid convoys and civilian infrastructure.

    https://themoscowtimes.com/news/russia-extends-syrian-airbase-lease-by-49-year-58512
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    Post  KiloGolf Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:17 am

    George1 wrote:
    President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday signed an agreement with Syria which will give the Russian military access to an airbase on the Mediterranean for another half a century.

    According to the document published on the official government website, Russia will continue to lease the Khmeimim Air Base, in the Latakia province, until at least 2066.

    The Syrian government conceded to lend the base in Latakia province free of charge.

    Russia’s intervention in the Syrian war in 2015 on the side of Bashar al-Assad has been marred by accusations its Air Force deliberately targeted aid convoys and civilian infrastructure.

    https://themoscowtimes.com/news/russia-extends-syrian-airbase-lease-by-49-year-58512

    Better late than ever. Now they need to upgrade Tartus to a proper Naval Base status than the current pier with assorted junkyard that it currently is.
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    Post  George1 Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:55 am

    At the airbase Khemeymim aircraft equipment and new taxiways

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    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2763803.html
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    Post  Cyberspec Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:21 am

    Base on the Red Sea coming ?

    Russia is ready to establish a military base in Sudan, if it receives official offer by the Sudanese party;

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    the success of the Russian Federation allows to expect that the proposals on establishment of Russian military bases could be followed by other countries "in the foreseeable future," said to RIA Novosti, first Deputy Chairman of the Federation Council Committee on defense and security Frants Klintsevich.

    Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir discussed with Russian President Vladimir Putin and defense Minister Sergei Shoigu the possibility of establishing a military base on the Red sea. As stated by the Sudanese President, Khartoum needs to be protected from US attempts to split the country into five separate States.

    http://rusvesna.su/news/1511615763
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    Post  George1 Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:57 am

    Cyberspec wrote:Base on the Red Sea coming ?

    Russia is ready to establish a military base in Sudan, if it receives official offer by the Sudanese party;

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    the success of the Russian Federation allows to expect that the proposals on establishment of Russian military bases could be followed by other countries "in the foreseeable future," said to RIA Novosti, first Deputy Chairman of the Federation Council Committee on defense and security Frants Klintsevich.

    Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir discussed with Russian President Vladimir Putin and defense Minister Sergei Shoigu the possibility of establishing a military base on the Red sea. As stated by the Sudanese President, Khartoum needs to be protected from US attempts to split the country into five separate States.

    http://rusvesna.su/news/1511615763

    its a great chance
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    Post  George1 Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:56 pm

    Interesting, reminds me of Nasser era

    Russia will sign an agreement on the use of Egyptian airfields


    According to the documents published on November 30, 2017 on the official portal of legal information, the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev instructed the Russian Ministry of Defense, with the participation of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia, to negotiate with the Egyptian government and sign an agreement on "the use of airspace and airfield infrastructure of Russia and Egypt ".

    The draft text of the agreement, previously approved by the governments of the two countries, has also been published.

    The agreement will allow military aircraft to use the airspace of the two countries for flights in accordance with the legislation of each of the parties. It does not apply to long-range radar detection and control aircraft, as well as aircraft carrying dangerous goods. The parties will annually exchange a list of aerodromes (military and joint-based) that can be used. The term of the agreement is five years with the possibility of renewal.

    Free of charge will be the filing of applications for flights, the use of military navigation systems of another state, parking and protection of aircraft. However, the country that directs military aircraft to foreign territory will have to pay for aviation fuel, lubricants, repair of machinery, as well as food and accommodation for the crew.

    According to RBC agency, the draft agreement with Egypt was published after the visit of Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu to Cairo, where he held talks with Egyptian President Abdelfattah al-Sisi on November 29.
    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2980712.html
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    Post  Cyberspec Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:40 am

    Nice add on to the Latakia base....a bit surprising considering that Egypt is pretty chummy with Saudi Arabia
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    Post  par far Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:01 am

    "Sudan Ready to Host Russian Military Base."

    https://sputniknews.com/africa/201711281059505761-sudan-russia-military-base/


    "Here’s Why Russia Might Set Up a Red Sea Base in Sudan."

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/heres-why-russia-might-set-up-a-red-sea-base-in-sudan/5621766

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:22 am

    par far wrote:"Sudan Ready to Host Russian Military Base."

    https://sputniknews.com/africa/201711281059505761-sudan-russia-military-base/


    "Here’s Why Russia Might Set Up a Red Sea Base in Sudan."

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/heres-why-russia-might-set-up-a-red-sea-base-in-sudan/5621766


    Finally someone explained it...

    Also this part:
    Addis Ababa’s ambitious plans to build a controversial dam on the Blue Nile river.

    I assume this dam is for power generation. This problem could be bypassed by constructing nuclear power plant in Ethiopia. Rosatom could handle it and it would remove need for messing up Nile water flow.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:10 am

    Building a base in sudan would be a very very very wise move on the part of Putin.

    Sudan has expressed that they will gladly bend over for Russia.

    Personally Putin would have to be foolish not to take up the offer.
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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:18 am

    Sudan is a great offer really, and huge opportunity for Russia to get into the African market since Kenya is so close.
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    Post  par far Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:34 am

    miketheterrible wrote:Sudan is a great offer really, and huge opportunity for Russia to get into the African market since Kenya is so close.

    I Really hope that Russia will take up Sudan on its offer, which I think, that Russia will because it is the first visit by a Sudanese president.

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