The Situation in the Ukraine. #3

Ekaterina Gubareva the Foreign Minister of the DPR has been named as Ekaterina Gubareva - who's actually the wife of Pavel Gubarev, the Donetsk "people's governor" that was elected by the protestors who started rallying in Donetsk enmasse from 1st March onwards and storming the regional administration building. Pavel Gubarev was soon arrested by the authorities and hastily flown to Kiev to stand trial. Attempts by the locals to storm the local SBU, and stop transports, etc... in order to free him failed; he was already gone. Among her duties are the establishment of ties with other subjects, that wish to leave the Ukraine. The Donetsk People's Republic has formed its own army, which has already reportedly enlisted over 1500 people http://lifenews.ru/news/131042

  

macedonian wrote:

etaepsilonk wrote:

macedonian wrote:
I disagree strongly. That's not how you win wars. Nevermind that this is not 'a proper' war, it's a war nonetheless.
If you're looking to win - you strike your enemy deep inside his ranks where he doesn't feel vulnerable...you create havoc, so that he cannot attack you where you're weak...you let him know that he's as vulnerable as you are...especially if your 'enemy' is a puppet to a 'greater master'...

Could you clarify who exactly is "the enemy" you're talking about in this case?

People in Ukraine who are brainwashed into believing western propaganda. On top of that, you have Ukrainians who are delusional about Russians.

But if you're asking who the REAL enemy is - it's more than obvious - it's the American political establishment, trying to conquer Russia.

Anything else?

those are called- usefull idiots -in the west...

sepheronx wrote:Looks like people actually beleive that EU sanction will hurt Russia. Lol idiot from poland thinks that. Guess the gas being turned off may be a problem for them.

It will hurt both sides.

Also, I have a suspicion that those threats of sanctions are not for real, they could just be attempts to bluff it out.
Because it may not look appropriate for many people: Russia invaded Crimea, and was sort of punished for that. However, since then Russia did NOTHING, and was supposed to be punished again?
Eurosceptic movements in EU countries (which are already gaining points for other stuff) might SERIOUSLY question a validity of this.

Why? What's wrong with this guy? I know VICE is a CIA front shit. Just take a look to their site. But this guy seems to be OK. No? We have any negative reports?

Apparently shots already happened and mixed reports of 4 civilians injured and one seriously ..
in the Interior Ministry base in the Ukrainian city of Mariupol.

http://rt.com/news/mariupol-base-shooting-ukraine-008/#_=_

some claim they had molotov cocktails ,others say the soldiers fired them when they asked to leave.
Anyone have detailed information of what really happened?

Just spoke with Greeks from Sympheropole and Mariupol and Donetsk regions. I recieve reliable informations that the Ukrainian forces are incompetent.
That the people that send there are from other pro Russian regions and thus defect, that the moral is high as now also expect Yanukovich to return to Donetsk which is now completely in Russia control and that pro Russian militia is now in the offensive and seems more than capable to manage alone the situation there.

PS Some also claim to hear jet planes doing cycles above during the night operations but the reports are conflicting. My hypothesis is that can't be Ukrainian that can hardly operate day let alone night but Russian UAV's supervise the situation up close.

flamming_python wrote:

Hannibal Barca wrote:Why? What's wrong with this guy? I know VICE is a CIA front shit. Just take a look to their site. But this guy seems to be OK. No? We have any negative reports?

I dunno I just don't like his face

any person making selfies should be euthanised in my opinion   

The Pro Russian protesters will need to coordinate better and have rules of engagement against Ukrainian Soldiers or any security from Kiev..
Not saying that is the case.. but it will be totally foolish for example for people to go at night to a military base with a dozen of protesters and armed with molotov bombs demanding they leave. Unarmed protesters need to know how NOT to interact with an armed soldiers.. if he thinks his life is in danger or scared he could shoot at them. if the protesters have its face covered will scare even more.. SO all regions needs to be trained its protesters how not to approach armed forces and how to do it.

flamming_python wrote:
I dunno I just don't like his face

Airbornewolf wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

Hannibal Barca wrote:Why? What's wrong with this guy? I know VICE is a CIA front shit. Just take a look to their site. But this guy seems to be OK. No? We have any negative reports?

I dunno I just don't like his face

any person making selfies should be euthanised in my opinion   

OK this guy may very well be the most objective reporter in western media. He may even be pro Russian. Just look his reports in youtube.

Not really.. look at his earlier RUssian roulette reports how he reported Crimea.. and look how he report Syria conflict..
100% biased.. VICE receive money from CNN... only his latest reports about Ukraine are neutral.

Hannibal Barca wrote:

flamming_python wrote:
I dunno I just don't like his face

Airbornewolf wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

Hannibal Barca wrote:Why? What's wrong with this guy? I know VICE is a CIA front shit. Just take a look to their site. But this guy seems to be OK. No? We have any negative reports?

I dunno I just don't like his face

any person making selfies should be euthanised in my opinion   

OK this guy may very well be the most objective reporter in western media. He may even be pro Russian. Just look his reports in youtube.

He is not pro Russian, he is anti-russian. Vice News is a new branch from FOX News which aims for the younger demographic and is more subtile propaganda than the usual MSM such as CNN,BBC,MSNBC,ABC,CBS etc.

Nothing is pro-russian when it has direct links to US big corporations and even CIA. CIA has links to FOX,MSNBC,BBC,CNN proof is here an investigation of US officials about exact this matter of CIA orders and directives to Media News.

At 11:08 you see the investigation of CNN administration asked if they have people working direct for CIA to spread their agenda.



CNN working hand in hand with CIA even orchestering terrorist attacks in Syria.

flamming_python wrote:

Hannibal Barca wrote:Why? What's wrong with this guy? I know VICE is a CIA front shit. Just take a look to their site. But this guy seems to be OK. No? We have any negative reports?

I dunno I just don't like his face

He has the kind of face I could kick for hours.

Lot's of VICE reporters share that.

In other news John McCain was off-roading in Sarah Palin's backyard, spying on Russia from afar when out of nowhere...











.....................Coincidence? I think not!

Who the heck makes this comics?

Any news today?

Werewolf wrote:Who the heck makes this comics?

http://superputin.ru/

Hannibal Barca wrote:Why? What's wrong with this guy? I know VICE is a CIA front shit. Just take a look to their site. But this guy seems to be OK. No? We have any negative reports?

NATO NGO my friend ... NATO NGO !!!

take care

slaviansk

3 dead, 13 injured as anti-govt protesters rally near Ukrainian military base

arpakola wrote:

Hannibal Barca wrote:Why? What's wrong with this guy? I know VICE is a CIA front shit. Just take a look to their site. But this guy seems to be OK. No? We have any negative reports?

NATO NGO  my friend ... NATO NGO !!!

take care

Don't get me wrong. The Greek franchise of VICE is terrible. NGO in it's highest! We have a huge problem with the social scum here, you know very well but I am talking about this particular guy covering the Ukrainian thing and I have to say that I am reasonably satisfied.

Am I contented with VICE: No. It is as shit as FOX. Greek subordinates probably worst ever seen!
Am I contented with this particular guy covering Ukraine? Yes.