The Situation in the Ukraine. #3

George1 wrote:KIEV, April 17. /ITAR-TASS/. Ukraine's parliament-appointed interim President OleksanderTurchinov said at a parliament session on Thursday that the 25th paratroopers brigade will be dissolved.

On Monday, the brigade, stationed near the town of Sloviansk, Donetsk region, sided with people's militia, acting mayor and commander of self-defense battalion Vyacheslav Ponomaryov told ITAR-TASS.

When their enemies in Kiev are such morons, the DPR defenders probably don't need to break much of a sweat. Ukraine is going to eat itself even without them.

Vann7 wrote:

What happened with the news of yesterday of a new round of convoy of 50 armored tanks/apc recently moving towards Donetsk?
SHouldt take days to arrive donetsk if they were near.. This group is not the same of the 6 tanks that defected earlier..

Not sure if its the guys you mean but about 200 paratroopers were disarmed yesterday; as a result of negotiations they all took the bolt carriers out of their AKs, handed them over, and then turned around back to Dnepropetrovsk, along with their vehicles. And now that brigade has been disbanded by Tuchinov's order; so anyone else still hanging around would be demobilized or transfered to other units

The EU parliament threatens sanctions on Russian energy companies
http://ria.ru/world/20140417/1004334881.html

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Krivoj Rog graffiti

Then:



Now:


"Glory to Berkut"

Also some graffiti in Kherson:


"Glory to Berkut"

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In addition to the shutting down of 2 NPP blocs announced a couple days ago by the Ukraine,
now the Ukrainian tycoon, Dmitrij Firtash - is announcing the suspension of production at 4 chemical plants

http://vognebroda.net/d-firtash-planiruet-v-mae-ostanovit-proizvodstvo-na-chetyreh-himicheskih-predpriyatiyah

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Kharkov activists from the Oplot organization indeed liquidated a pro-Maidan checkpoint at one of the roads into Kharkov
http://rusvesna.su/news/1397682342

Apparently, there was a fight at a pro-Maidan checkpoint in Odessa too.

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According to some witnesses (there are a couple of vids about from the event), the bloody events at Mariupol yesterday was the result of the National Guard opening fire on protestors who came, unarmed, to a military unit with a call for the soldiers to put down their arms. Fire from automatic rifles and machine guns was opened, several bullets richochet off buildings and so on - hitting protestors, killing 1.

http://vognebroda.net/vlasti-na-ukraine-zhelayut-skryt-istinnoe-polozhenie-veshchey-o-zhertvah-stolknoveniy-v-mariupole

There is another version, that people were organized by several provocateurs, to try and take the military unit by storm, up to 500 people were there, tried to storm the gate; then fire was opened up, 3 were killed, dozens injured and over 60 arrested.
Molotov cocktails were thrown some time later after fire was opened, when protestors returned

But more than likely, this is all part of the same event; i.e. people first gathered to the military base to talk, the National Guard opened fire, injuring several - and then a huge crowd formed and tried to storm the base.

Basically, details are still unclear.

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Donetsk residents are right now occupying the Donetsk airport, allegedly led by about 50 members of the Donetsk Berkut.
It was earlier surrounded by people, and then they went inside and took over.

Apparently the airport management have expressed sympathy for the DPR, and had negotiations with the protestors

Ukrainian military are present, looking out the windows. According to some info, there are members of the Ukrainian Police Interior Forces armed with SVD rifles, positioned on top of buildings.

http://rusvesna.su/news/1397742464 (pics at the link)

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According to ITAR-TASS, Slavyansk locals have seized the local Radio-TV transmission centre, responsible for broadcasting to Slavyansk, Kramotorsk and other nearby towns.

They have completely disabled all Ukrainian broadcasting, and enabled Russian TV channels.

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Some unreliable reports about a hospital in Zaporozhie being seized by unknown people.
Likely BS IMO

Still, where there's smoke..

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Oleg Tsarev was elected as the leader of the South-East movement, at a conference in Donetsk of 25 anti-Maidan and social organisations from Dnepropetrovsk, Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporozhia, Nikolayev, Odessa, Kharkov and Kherson regions yesterday

http://vognebroda.net/predstaviteli-dvadtsati-pyati-obshchestvennyh-organizatsiy-izbrali-tsarkova-koordinatorom-edinogo-tsentra-yugo-vostochnogo-soprotivleniya
http://rusvesna.su/news/1397738346

But it seems that he himself is still behind bars.

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Oh yeah and I nearly forgot - a Kazakh businessman, Yermek Tajchibekov - is offering 1,000,000 roubles (around 30,000 dollars) for the head of Kolomojskij
Hunting season is open until 1st May

http://rusvesna.su/news/1397732118

Here's his Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/taychibekoff
Pretty whack

Vann7 wrote:That news happened AFTER ,the 6 captured APC that switched sides.,. it was a new group of armored vehicles heading to DONETSK...
Any idea what happened to that large group of soldiers. in armored cars ? haven't heard anything about them..

http://en.ria.ru/world/20140416/189241618/Over-50-Ukrainian-Armored-Vehicles-Rolling-Toward-Donetsk--.html

There were many groups of BMDs all day

One of them was seized

Another one broke through when a Ukrainian serviceman threatened to suicide-bomb himself with a grenade

Another one broke through when Ukrainian servicemen started firing into the air beside the protestors and a BMD ran over a Lada Niva (or what looked like one)

And then about 200 in total were surrounded and caught in an encirclement for several hours. In the end they agreed to disarm themselves, and then turned around on their vehicles and left.

Putin is the president of the Ukraine

A little bit of a Freudian slip, from the Ukrainian media

macedonian wrote:I can't help but feeling that Russia either:
-Has lost this round; or
-Is playing a losers role on purpose...

But who knows what they have in mind, or what they've been (possibly) threatened with.

I'm feeling a bit angry by this whole situation and the cemented hypocrisy by 'The West'.
F' 'em!

It's not the Crimea, Russia is not playing a hand in this latest episode, or not much one - as it has been saying all along.

So what did it lose?   

It escaped sanctions, and that's good

The agreement is non-enforceable, so it will fail anyway, but now Russia has legitimized its position.