it maybe be worth remembering some of those troops on those BTR's got send there pretty much on gun-point by Kiev and their Nazi scum. like the MI-24 pilot they left to die they are considered only tools to the Kiev Junta. the Waffen SS of world war 2 pretty much enforced Hitlers will in the Wehrmacht on the same way. you do as the party pleases or get shot or imprisoned. and if you do not do it maybe they will pay a visit to your fammily if you know what i mean.
Well if You seen in videos people who didn't want to shoot at their brothers wasted their ammo into air. And people were cheering them.
But now we see black men. Those SBU dogs and they are turncoats. They serve new master. Berkut got blamed for SBU killings(Berkut never had snipers) and most of them got away with nothing cause new Ukraine had to keep them as their only reliable fist. Now Ukraine is praising SBU troops like they are heroes.
Pilots are professional soldiers, they can always QUIT. Same goes to NatGuard, Interior Troops or SF guys we seen there. They have an option. Separatists DON'T.
extremely vulnerable is a bit of an overstatement. if you ever went to a range and fired rounds at a moving target at 300 meters without any advanced optics you know thats not easy to hit. and thats without the adrenaline pumping trough your body. even 200 or 100 meters still requires discipline and a steady nerve.
Extremely vulnerable from small arms or fragmentations. It doesn't matter if You are in BTR-60 or in Namer if You go deep into enemy territory with light troops and without a plan then You are risking big loses. It's a show of force a punitive operation that targets unarmed civilians.
There are hundreds of ways how to make moving target unmovable. Easiest one is fire from elevated positions on leading vehicle to make it stop to dismount troops. By the time it will take BTR or dismounted soldiers to react shooting position can be deserted and then RPG can come in handy. There is no need to take on full force, but to leave injured people, damaged transport and cause disarray.
an average person can throw a grenade 30 meters on ground level, and a grenade is not a light thing its rather a heavy piece of explosive. either because its filled with shrapnell or special components to make it effective in its designed task. a grenade is a dangerous thing but it loses killing potential rather quickly as distance between detonation-target increases.
Not all grenades are filled with shrapnel. But I imagine it would be have great effect on those exposed. Even thick pipe bombs. As we seen on some videos people were throwing stuff at BTRs in Kramatorsk. If You are on the building you can arch it no one can really spot You.
like "hide in someones flat" ?. imagine me, some total stranger out of western europe kicking down your door. telling you at gunpoint to get lost and if you do not i bust your knee with a weapon, and go set up an ambush while you do not even want to be part of the conflict. im sorry regular, but its an misinformed statement you make.
It's a warzone. Did Russians ask people in Stalingrad if they could hide in those buildings? Separatists are the people not someone from western Europe. They don't have to threaten as they are the ones protecting from threats.
and do not be so quick to judge pro-russian opposition. to say "im suprised how easily ukrainian forces can move without resistance". things in real life outside of the internet in actual conflict are really nasty. people worry about their loved ones are safe, if themselves are safe, where the next meal comes from, what will happen next, and the uncertainty that comes with war is really causing a lot of stress for their members on the anti-kiev demonstrators.
I'm not judging. I only said what we all seen. It was lack of armed resistance.
I've almost zero training in urban environment, but I do know what is an ambush and I expect veterans from Afghanistan might know more tricks than me.
How many more people have to die? Ukrainians are trigger happy and civilians are dying.
Someone has to make a stand even a symbolic one. Like in Odessa. Or else loss of life will grow everyday. Kiev will never stop until people will be subjected by fear.
war is something everyone has an opinion of, untill it comes to your front door. then all your morals go out the door. its good to remember that these people go trough a human made hell and any of us are in no position to judge
Yes, it's my opinion, not a sentence. I do support them.
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