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    Post  LMFS Fri Dec 25, 2020 11:44 pm

    Nuclear submarine "Leopard" after modernization will receive new weapons-commander-in-chief of the Navy

    26.12.2020 00:00:00
    Moscow. December 26. INTERFAX-the multi-purpose nuclear submarine "Leopard "was removed from the boathouse of the Zvezdochka ship repair center (Severodvinsk) after the completion of the slipway stage of repair and modernization, Navy commander-in-chief Nikolai Evmenov said.
    "The submarine was removed from the main boathouse of the shipyard to complete work at the pier of the enterprise. I received a corresponding report on the successful operation to remove the leopard submarine from the boathouse, " the Russian defense Ministry's information Department quoted Evmenov as saying.
    "By the time of withdrawal from the boathouse, the forces of Zvezdochka and its contractors had replaced radio-electronic weapons, control systems, communications, navigation, hydroacoustics, and the combat information and control system," the commander-in-chief said.
    "As part of the modernization, it is planned to expand the types of missile and torpedo weapons used, reduce the acoustic visibility of the ship, improve the habitability conditions for the crew, and improve the operational reliability of the submarine. Completion of repair and modernization works will be carried out afloat at the wall of the enterprise's completion embankment, " Evmenov said.
    According to him, "Leopard" became the first third-generation submarine, a deep modernization of which is carried out on the "Asterisk". Evmenov said that the repair of the submarine is carried out as part of a program to maintain a group of multi-purpose nuclear submarines of the Russian Navy at the required level of combat readiness.
    The multi-purpose nuclear submarine "Leopard" of project 971 (JSC SPMBM "malachite") was laid down on the slipway of JSC "Sevmash" in October 1988. The submarine was incorporated into the Navy on December 30, 1992. SPMBM "Malachit", concern "NPO" Aurora", SPO "Arktika", "concern" Granit-Electron", niptb "Onega", "concern" okeanpribor", "OKBM Afrikantov", concern "morinformsystem-Agat" and others took part in the repair of the "Leopard".

    https://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=543791&lang=RU

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    Post  LMFS Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:08 pm

    Source: submarine "Wolf" with "Calibers" will return to the Navy in 2023

    She will receive new shock capabilities after modernization, said the interlocutor of TASS

    MOSCOW, January 5. / TASS /. The repair and modernization of the Volk nuclear submarine (nuclear submarine) of Project 971 (code Schuka-B) of the Northern Fleet will be completed in 2023. This was reported to TASS by a source in the shipbuilding industry.

    "The nuclear submarine" Volk "will return to the combat strength of the Navy in 2023, having received, after modernization, new strike capabilities associated with the use of cruise missiles" Caliber-PL ", he said.

    According to the interlocutor of the agency, the arsenal of weapons on board the nuclear submarine will remain the same - 40 missiles and torpedoes, but it will be expanded with the help of Kalibr-PL cruise missiles, the flight range of which is up to 2,500 km. The Zvezdochka ship repair center (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation) did not comment on this information to TASS.

    The Volk nuclear submarine came to Zvezdochka for repairs and modernization in 2014. She was originally supposed to return to the Navy in 2017.

    Project 971 multipurpose submarines of the third generation were developed at the Malakhit St. Petersburg Maritime Bureau of Mechanical Engineering. In total, the 24th division of the Northern Fleet's submarine forces includes six nuclear submarines - Leopard, Vepr, Tiger, Panther, Gepard, and Wolf.

    On December 26, 2020, the Ministry of Defense reported that after the completion of the repair and modernization of the Leopard submarine, it was withdrawn from the slipway of the Zvezdochka ship repair center in Severodvinsk.

    In total, Zvezdochka and its enterprises are currently modernizing five Project 971 nuclear submarines, including two from the Pacific Fleet.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/10406663

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    Post  LMFS Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:53 am

    Submarine "Tiger" of the "animal" division will return to the fleet in 2022

    Submarine repairs began in 2019

    MOSCOW, January 11. / TASS /. The Project 971 Tiger multipurpose nuclear submarine (nuclear submarine) (code Schuka-B) will return to the Northern Fleet in 2022 after repairs are completed and technical readiness is restored. This was reported to TASS on Monday by a source in the military-industrial complex.

    "Repair work on the technical condition of the Tiger nuclear submarine is planned to be completed in 2022, after which the boat will return to the combat strength of the fleet," the agency's interlocutor said.

    The nuclear submarine Tiger arrived at the Nerpa shipyard (a branch of the Zvezdochka ship repair center, part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation) in 2019. According to reports, its modernization, following the example of a number of other Project 971 submarines, has not yet been envisaged.

    The Zvezdochka Ship Repair Center did not comment to TASS on the timing of the completion of the repair.

    A total of five Project 971 nuclear submarines, including two from the Pacific Fleet, are undergoing repair and modernization at Zvezdochka and its enterprises.

    Now in the combat composition of the 24th ("animal" by the names of submarines) division of the submarine forces of the Northern Fleet are nuclear submarines of project 971 "Panther", "Vepr" and "Gepard". Earlier it was reported that the Leopard nuclear submarine will return to service in 2021, the Wolf - in 2023. Thus, in 2023, the "animals" will gather almost in full.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/10431539

    As said, now the time for the SS(G)N has come.

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    Post  LMFS Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:22 am

    Submarine "pike" series "Samara" will complete repair and modernization in 2023

    Then the tests of the updated submarine should begin, which will receive the Kalibr-PL cruise missiles, a source said.

    MOSCOW, January 14. / TASS /. The repair and modernization of the Samara nuclear submarine (nuclear submarine) of Project 971 (code Schuka-B) of the Pacific Fleet (Pacific Fleet) will be completed in 2023. TASS was informed about this on Thursday by a source in the military-industrial complex.

    "It is planned that the Zvezdochka Ship Repair Center will complete the repair and modernization of Samara in 2023," he said, noting that then tests of the updated submarine, which will receive the Kalibr-PL cruise missiles, should begin.

    According to another TASS source, as of August 2020, the submarine was undergoing the first stage of repair and modernization. The work was carried out by specialists from Zvezdochka (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation). Zvezdochka's press service did not comment on this information.

    Initially, the nuclear submarines "Bratsk" and "Samara" were planned to be repaired in the North-East Repair Center (SVRTs) located in Kamchatka in Vilyuchinsk, but after a visit to the enterprise of the Minister of Defense of Russia General of the Army Sergei Shoigu in March 2013, it was decided to transfer the modernization of the submarines to another contractor ... The reason for this decision was the delay in the repair work, which was supposed to start in 2008. According to the original schedule, sea trials of the Bratsk nuclear submarine were planned to begin in December 2012.

    It is known that the Bratsk nuclear submarine after the completion of repairs and deep modernization will become the third nuclear submarine leased to the Indian Navy. As a TASS source clarified earlier, the transfer of the "Bratsk" converted for Russian-Indian Brahmos missiles is planned for the first quarter of 2026.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/10456769

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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:48 am

    So Bratsk is going to India, very interesting. I wonder what the RuN will do with Nerpa (INS Chakra) when she is returned after the lease expires in early 2022? Maybe they will extend the lease until Bratsk is ready?

    Anyhow, it looks like the delays in 971 modenisations are finally being overcome. How much of the delays have been caused by a lack of funding/resources for repairs at Zvezdochka as opposed to new builds? Sevmash doesn't seem to be affected, so the problem isn't a loss of national capabilities.
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    Post  George1 Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:29 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:So Bratsk is going to India, very interesting.  I wonder what the RuN will do with Nerpa (INS Chakra) when she is returned after the lease expires in early 2022?  Maybe they will extend the lease until Bratsk is ready?

    Anyhow, it looks like the delays in 971 modenisations are finally being overcome.  How much of the delays have been caused by a lack of funding/resources for repairs at Zvezdochka as opposed to new builds?  Sevmash doesn't seem to be affected, so the problem isn't a loss of national capabilities.

    It seems that India funds the modernization of those that are leased to them afterwards
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    Post  LMFS Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:21 am

    Beastly grin. Submarines of the far sea zone are returning to service

    LITOVKIN Dmitry
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    Dmitry Litovkin - about why Project 971 submarines are called the perfect naval weapon

    Already in 2023, Russian sailors will be able to return to permanent combat duty in the Atlantic and Pacific Ocean. Project 971 multipurpose nuclear submarines of the "Pike" type, or, as they are also called in the West, "Shark", will take on escort ships, and will also monitor the coasts of the United States and Britain. Earlier, the next ship of the "animal" series "Tiger" got up for repair and modernization at the "Nerpa" shipyard near Murmansk. Its return to service will usher in a new era of submarine confrontation between fleets. To date, these are the quietest and most dangerous submarines that really pose a threat to western naval domination.  
    Silently

    "Pike" - extremely successful and the first Soviet submarine, got rid of the contemptuous nickname "roaring cow". This is what Western sailors called all our nuclear submarines that went on alert in the North Atlantic from the 1960s to the early 1980s. However, even before Shchuka, Project 671 ships were built, as well as the world's only fully titanium Project 945 submarines of the Barracuda type. All of them, in general, have already demonstrated a technological breakthrough in the submarine shipbuilding of the USSR, which the Americans and the British slept because of their arrogance. An insight came in 1986, when the head nuclear submarine of the 971st project left the stocks of the Severodvinsk machine-building enterprise "Sevmash" (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation, USC). It differed from its predecessors in new on-board equipment,weapons systems. It was also cheaper to manufacture.

    Unlike the Barracuda, the Pike was made from ordinary ship rental. But most importantly, it has become practically silent in the ocean depths. This was achieved through the use of special cushion cushions for all equipment and mechanisms of the ship. As a result, at speeds of several knots, the ship literally disappeared into the ocean abyss. Experts associate the breakthrough in noiselessness with the scandal that erupted in the West in the early 1980s, when it turned out that the USSR was able to purchase unique high-precision machines from Toshiba Corporation in Japan through third countries.

    Thanks to them, the production of shaft lines and propellers has reached a completely different technological level. In response, the Japanese received sanctions from the US State Department for their inability to trade. But be that as it may, the deed was done. "Sharks" disappeared into the ocean depths. The general designer of the project, laureate of the State Prize of Russia, Yuri Farafontov, recalls how, during the tests of the first ship, boats of foreign countries tried to track down ours in order to determine its characteristics. However, the means of searching for the Soviet submarine immediately detected intruders without giving themselves away.
    Habitat

    New boats have repeatedly baffled the navies of NATO countries. In 1987, the Pikes filmed the infrastructure of one of the most secret US naval bases on the country's east coast through periscopes. Then, in 1996, in February, another curiosity happened. During a NATO naval exercise in the Hebrides region, the Russian "Shark" surfaced in the very center of a warrant of NATO ships practicing the fight against an enemy submarine. The ship issued an SOS signal. It was caused by an acute attack of appendicitis in one of the sailors. It was risky to operate it in ship conditions, and the ship's commander made an unprecedented decision by the standards of the recently ended Cold War: to surface and ask for help from once - and for submariners to this day - potential enemies for help.

    The British, using a helicopter, evacuated the sailor and transported him to one of the hospitals. After that, the boat sank again and left. For NATO members, this was another shock: they looked for it - they did not find it, it appeared and disappeared again. And the worst thing in all this is that if it were not for the times of "detente", the Russian ship could not only quietly follow, but at any moment sink the entire naval group training to look for enemy submarines.

    Well, then, as they say, more. In the summer of 1996, the Ohio-class USS Tennessee strategic missile submarine discovered that Shark was escorting it near US territorial waters. For American submariners, contacts with Russian submarines are not new, but the fact that the enemy got so close to the American shores came as a complete surprise to them. In 2012, two Project 971 submarines at once were discovered in a 200-mile zone near the east coast of Canada and the United States. But, having begun the persecution of the Russians, both of them quickly missed them.

    According to the then Minister of Defense of Canada Peter McKay, one of the ships headed towards the Canadian coast, the second was lost by the Americans: either it went to Cuba, or somewhere else. As it turned out later, he had been in the Gulf of Mexico for a month. Later, the American edition of The Washington Free Beacon, citing the Navy, only stated that "the Russians were at least two months off the coast of the United States, posing a real threat not only to warships, but also to coastal facilities, and no one could neutralize them."

    In 2015, information appeared that allegedly two "Sharks" off the British Isles forced the American aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt to retreat. As a result, the cornered sea giant disappeared into one of the bases of the Royal Navy. The British press wrote that the visit was inconsistent. Recently, practically nothing is known about such high-profile campaigns. On the one hand, "detente", and with it "freedom of speech" in the Western press ended, on the other, our boats somehow quietly nailed to the piers in their home bases. Currently, the 24th - "animal" by the names of submarines - divisions of the Northern Fleet's submarine forces includes Project 971 nuclear submarines "Panther", "Vepr" and "Gepard".
    In the image and likeness

    It is not only the low acoustic signature that makes the Shark an ideal weapon for submarine warfare. For its time, it was possible to install four 650-mm and four 533-mm torpedo tubes with a large supply of torpedoes and anti-submarine guided missiles "Waterfall" inside its strong hull. In addition to them, the ship had 28 long-range cruise missiles RK-55 "Granat" in ammunition. The machine was created in the early 70s of the last century in the Dubnin MKB "Raduga" as an analogue of the American BGM-109 Tomahawk rocket.

    "Granat" can carry both nuclear and conventional warheads. This is the first missile of the Soviet and Russian fleet, which could be used both from under water and on the surface. Its only and main drawback was the guidance system. Due to the lack of a sufficient constellation of satellites, she flew on digital maps of the area embedded in her computer complex. And the latter could be inaccurate.

    The Granat missiles were written off. But their work did not die. On September 14, 2017, two Project 636 submarines of the Varshavyanka type B-268 Veliky Novgorod and B-271 Kolpino from the eastern Mediterranean Sea struck with Kalibr high-precision cruise missiles at the targets of the terrorist organization ISIS, which is banned in our country. Then the targets were command posts, communication centers, as well as weapons and ammunition depots southeast of the city of Deir ez-Zor. According to the Ministry of Defense, seven missiles were fired at terrorists' targets from a submerged position, the range to targets was from 500 to 670 km. However, as is now known, the rocket is capable of flying a much greater distance, which makes its carrier extremely dangerous.

    In fact, this event predetermined the further development of the entire Russian fleet. Today, not a single surface ship is launched that would not carry the Caliber. The same thing happens in submarine building. The boats of the 971 project started modernization. According to the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy Nikolai Evmenov, it is going in parallel with the program for the construction of Project 885 ships of the Yasen type. This means that the "old" submarines are equipped with the same equipment and systems as the most advanced ones. As for the Ash, we can talk about a new hydroacoustic station, a combat control system, electronic suppression equipment, weapons and propellers of a new design.

    It is claimed that the updated Tiger-class boats will be able to use underwater drones. And if we take into account the unification of launchers on modern Russian ships, then in the future Shchuki-B will also be able to launch from a submerged position not only long-range Calibers, but also Zircon hypersonic missiles.
    Beasts of the North

    Until Project 885 ships of the Yasen type appear in combat, the Sharks will be the main striking force of our submarine. In total, five Project 971 nuclear submarines, including two from the Pacific Fleet, are undergoing repair and modernization at the enterprises of the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC). Earlier it was reported that the nuclear submarine "Leopard" will return to service in 2021, "Tiger" - in 2022, "Wolf" - in 2023. Thus, in 2023, the "animals" will gather almost in full.

    The retention of the grouping of these submarines as part of the Navy significantly expands Russia's capabilities to ensure its own security in long-distance sea communications. Until the implementation of the project 855 nuclear submarine construction program, it is they who will bear the main burden of service in ocean theaters, forcing our counterparts to be constantly "suspended". Actually, this is the main task of the submarine fleet in peacetime, while in wartime it is guaranteed to disrupt any transportations along sea communications.

    During their service, the ships of the 971 project have repeatedly demonstrated their superiority over the boats of much more modern projects, such as the American Virginia and Seawolf. And with new sonar equipment and weapons on board, they will become even better. As the sailors say, even in the presence of much more modern "Ash" there is no alternative to the "Pike" in the fleet. Project 971 remains the most advanced naval weapon capable of radically influencing the situation on sea communications.

    https://tass.ru/opinions/10542211

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    Post  George1 Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:58 am

    Nuclear submarine INS Chakra (formerly "Nerpa") of project 971I returning to russian side at the end of 2021?

    (reports that India allegedly did not renew the agreement on the lease of the Russian nuclear submarine K-152 "Nerpa")

    https://dambiev.livejournal.com/2337601.html

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    On her way home.
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    Post  kvs Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:38 pm

    George1 wrote:Nuclear submarine INS Chakra (formerly "Nerpa") of project 971I returning to russian side at the end of 2021?

    (reports that India allegedly did not renew the agreement on the lease of the Russian nuclear submarine K-152 "Nerpa")

    https://dambiev.livejournal.com/2337601.html

    Modi wants to lease some US boat instead in all likelihood.



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    Post  walle83 Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:10 pm

    Probably needs to be overhauled before entering Russian service.
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    Post  slasher Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:56 pm

    kvs wrote:
    George1 wrote:Nuclear submarine INS Chakra (formerly "Nerpa") of project 971I returning to russian side at the end of 2021?

    (reports that India allegedly did not renew the agreement on the lease of the Russian nuclear submarine K-152 "Nerpa")

    https://dambiev.livejournal.com/2337601.html

    Modi wants to lease some US boat instead in all likelihood.




    Russia needs to stop being naive when it comes its foreign relations. It's all well and good to spout lavish platitudes and political diplo-speak about mutual trust, co-operation, strategic partnerships blah blah etc. etc. But in reality Russia should be absolutely mindful that countries couldn't care less other than their own interests, Let India choose its own strategic path and face its own consequences. Russia should continue exalting and putting face value to international "relationships" and "partnerships" while seeking to exploit and maximize economic and commercial benefits. The US is the master at this.
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    Post  Backman Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:24 pm

    India was in over its head with that sub clearly
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    Post  Backman Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:25 pm

    kvs wrote:
    George1 wrote:Nuclear submarine INS Chakra (formerly "Nerpa") of project 971I returning to russian side at the end of 2021?

    (reports that India allegedly did not renew the agreement on the lease of the Russian nuclear submarine K-152 "Nerpa")

    https://dambiev.livejournal.com/2337601.html

    Modi wants to lease some US boat instead in all likelihood.



    The US doesn't lease out or export subs.
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    Post  lancelot Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:33 pm

    India has their own nuclear submarine technology now. That is supposedly why they stopped this lease.
    They still aren't building any nuclear attack submarines though.
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:28 pm

    Backman wrote:India was in over its head with that sub clearly

    Yeah, best to send this boat into overhaul for Leopard treatment and get it back in action on home turf

    Vepr is rolling again, Tiger is coming back in 2022, Volk and Samara in 2023 and if they add this one they will soon have at least 5 upgraded Akulas in service (maybe more, I could have missed some)

    Basically for nearly each new Yasen they will simultaneously have another Akula online as a bonus

    That would be a nice setup

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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:31 pm

    walle83 wrote:Probably needs to be overhauled before entering Russian service.

    It will take a year to get rid of the smell of curry.

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    Post  walle83 Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:52 pm

    India did what they should have done. Use the shit out of the submarine to learn as much as they possibly can. And then give it back before the Russians could bill them for another 10 years. Having one SSN never gave them much strategic value.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:52 am

    It served its purpose and gave them more chance to experience what operating a nuclear powered sub is like (in addition to the Charlie class SSN they used before that).

    When it was leased Russia was still in the process of rebuilding so the money was likely more useful than another sub, but right now the situation is reversed and an extra Pike class sub is rather more valuable than the money India is paying to rent it.

    Note the Akula class is the SSBN Typhoon class subs.
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    Post  Sujoy Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:44 am

    Next SSN will arrive from Russia at least 5 years from now. The lease will be for 10 years and has been valued at over US$ 3 billion.

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    Post  walle83 Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:50 am

    Sujoy wrote:Next SSN will arrive from Russia at least 5 years from now. The lease will be for 10 years and has been valued at over US$ 3 billion.


    Whats the point by then? India should spend the money on its own subs insted.
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    Post  RTN Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:51 am

    walle83 wrote:India did what they should have done. Use the shit out of the submarine to learn as much as they possibly can. And then give it back before the Russians could bill them for another 10 years. Having one SSN never gave them much strategic value.
    Western technologies like pump jets instead of propellers are way ahead of anything that Russia has developed. A well-designed pump jet is considerably quieter than an equivalent propeller. Pumpjet design had advanced over many years with a particular focus on the characteristics of all the components. Russia is of course not up to speed technologically.

    India being a poor, third world country can't afford Western SSNs, SSBNs, so they settle for Russian nuclear submarines.

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