Russian Navy: Status & News #2

sepheronx wrote:No system can protect against saturated attack.

sepheronx wrote:More produced, cheaper it can become.

PapaDragon wrote:

GunshipDemocracy wrote:,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Onyx is supersonic.

Kalibr is subsonic but that is not anti ship missile.

Dima wrote:
Russian Navy can certainly afford a modification of this 1135 and bring it out with a helipad, hanger and new structures atop the bridge (which anyway is skeletal) like the 11356. The Asw tubes need to be replaced completely and the front can be worked for a A-100 and 36-72 cell Shtil-1/9M96E2. Installations that require much deeper deck penetration like RBU and UKSK can be done away with. Such a modification which is likely within the capacity of 1135 would give a significant boost to its capability from what it is now and be more of an AD frigate.

Isos wrote:It will costs as much as a new frigate. Better go for a replacement. However this class is really outdated in design and armement.

Russia Is Set to Build 12 New Monster Warships Armed with 200 Missiles Each

Dave Majumdar
June 1, 2016
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Russia’s United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) is expected to sign a contract with the Kremlin to build a massive new warship called Project 23560 Lider (or Leader in English) after the design is finalized later this year.

"At present, Preliminary Design 23560 Leader is under consideration at the Ministry of Defense,” Igor Ponomarev, USC vice president for military shipbuilding told state-owned RIA Novosti. “After a positive decision, we expect to sign a contract to develop and design the ship under terms defined by the Ministry of Defense.”


The new warship is classified as a destroyer but will displace 17,500 metric tons, with a length of 200m (656.2ft) and a beam of 20m (65.6ft)—making it larger than most World War II-era heavy cruisers. Indeed, the Leader-class—which is expected to be armed with no fewer than 200 missiles—will be the second largest modern surface combatants built after the four massive 28,000-ton nuclear-powered Project 1144 Orlan battle-cruisers (better known as the Kirov-class).

The new warship is being designed with anti-aircraft, anti-ballistic missile, anti-surface and anti-submarine capability. It is also likely to have a significant land-attack capability using long-range cruise missiles such as the Kalibr-NK. From what little is known about the Leader-class, the vessels are expected to be equipped with 60 anti-ship cruise missiles, 128 anti-aircraft guided missiles and 16 anti-ship guided missiles. There are no details available about the exact mix of missiles that are expected to be carried onboard, but the air defense systems are likely to be based on either the S-400 or S-500 while some of the anti-ship weapons are likely to be variants of the Zircon hypersonic missile.

The Russians have not said much about the Leader-class’ propulsion system—but the vessel is expected to be nuclear powered and will likely reach speeds well in excess of 30 knots. It would also likely be able to remain at sea for up to 90 days without support. Late last year, the U.S. Navy’s Office of Naval Intelligence suggested that the Russians would build a dozen of the new warships.

“Depending on propulsion type, the design could be a 8,000 to 18,000 ton ship combining both destroyer and cruiser characteristics with robust air, surface, and submarine warfare, as well as anti-missile defense capabilities. Russia reportedly intends to build six such ships for both the Northern and Pacific fleets (12 total),” reads an ONI report on the Russian Navy. “The lead unit is not likely to be built earlier than the mid-2020s. Press reports have mentioned that the propulsion for this class, whether conventional gas turbine or nuclear, is not yet determined. The resolution may depend on decisions yet to be made regarding a new aircraft carrier which, if built, is likely to be nuclear-powered.”

Assuming that Russia can build the Leader-class given its current economic situation, the massive new warships would outgun the largest surface combatants in the U.S. Navy’s fleet—carrying roughly double an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer’s missile tubes. Moreover, the Leader-class’ nuclear propulsion system would allow the enormous new warships the ability to sortie around the globe without the need for auxiliary refuelers or any requirement to make a port call. That would afford Moscow a potent power projection tool that’s just short of a carrier strike group.

Dave Majumdar is the defense editor for The National Interest. You can follow him on Twitter: @davemajumdar.

Rubin Design Bureau's news Harpsichord-2P-PM Autonomous Underwater Vehicle (AUV)

artjomh wrote:Name's wrong.

Klavesin-2R-PM

Pic is from Igor Vilnit's (Rubin's boss) article in VPK from the other day.

JohninMK wrote:Looks really smart, no rust in sight. Anyone else think Yamal has had a coat of paint/maintenance whilst in port?

Landing ship Yamal making her 4 deployment in 2016. Her last passage through Turkish Straits was in February. Photo: Kerim Bozkurt.

KiloGolf wrote:what's the status of the ex-Ukrainian LST that Russia took over? Did they induct them into BS fleet?

GarryB wrote:Actually we have seen their new modular universal weapon launchers for cruise missiles and SAMs, but it would be interesting if they developed modular systems for existing types and smaller vessels .

For instance a vertical launch system for Uran that could use the new upgraded 240km range models of the missile plus some alternative designs.

I remember a while back they showed a model of a reduced size Uran for helos that was lighter and smaller and had a shorter range for smaller patrol craft and helos and light aircraft to use.

equally an IIR or optically guided model for land attack uses would be interesting as well.

Something that doesn't require three deck levels of vertical space to install...

perhaps unify it with the Shtil SAM or perhaps an upgraded TOR so it can take all sorts of missile types that as smaller draft and can cover the upper deck space of an existing vessel with minor modifications.