Russia Defence Forum

Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues


+57
Swgman_BK
Podlodka77
Atmosphere
limb
TMA1
mnztr
Big_Gazza
thegopnik
Tsavo Lion
Arrow
kvs
George1
Hole
LMFS
dino00
Benya
hoom
HM1199
Enera
Rmf
Tolstoy
RTN
Book.
Isos
franco
x_54_u43
Kimppis
GJ Flanker
Vann7
jhelb
Austin
sepheronx
2SPOOKY4U
whir
GunshipDemocracy
victor1985
max steel
AlfaT8
Walther von Oldenburg
Morpheus Eberhardt
MarshallJukov
NickM
Stealthflanker
ahmedfire
magnumcromagnon
flamming_python
Viktor
Mike E
Werewolf
Mindstorm
GarryB
CaptainPakistan
calripson
Cyberspec
Rpg type 7v
Flanky
medo
61 posters

    Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Viktor
    Viktor


    Posts : 5796
    Points : 6429
    Join date : 2009-08-25
    Age : 44
    Location : Croatia

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Viktor Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:58 pm

    Very interesting system.

    First appeared and showed during the LIMA 2013 military exhibition. I noticed it but had no clue what in the hell was that.

    Well now thanks to Dima we know.

    Krasuha-2

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems 11i3lo1

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems 2j26ic4

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems 5mmtz

    LINK


    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems 2ewpgns

    LINK


    Last edited by Viktor on Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:51 pm; edited 1 time in total
    medo
    medo


    Posts : 4343
    Points : 4423
    Join date : 2010-10-24
    Location : Slovenia

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  medo Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:34 pm

    http://www.lenta.ru/news/2013/04/24/krasuha/

    Lenta also write, that Russian army received 4 Krasuha-4 complexes. Anyway, good news for Russian electronic warfare units.
    Flanky
    Flanky


    Posts : 192
    Points : 197
    Join date : 2011-05-02
    Location : Slovakia

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Flanky Mon May 27, 2013 12:58 pm

    Nice - some technical parameters? Anyone?
    avatar
    Rpg type 7v


    Posts : 245
    Points : 97
    Join date : 2011-05-01

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Rpg type 7v Mon May 27, 2013 2:43 pm

    Is this a joke? Laughing
    Flanky
    Flanky


    Posts : 192
    Points : 197
    Join date : 2011-05-02
    Location : Slovakia

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Flanky Mon May 27, 2013 2:46 pm

    Partly - but not entirely.
    avatar
    Rpg type 7v


    Posts : 245
    Points : 97
    Join date : 2011-05-01

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Rpg type 7v Mon May 27, 2013 3:24 pm

    reminds me of this.

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems 7_ranetzemaz7910s
    Viktor
    Viktor


    Posts : 5796
    Points : 6429
    Join date : 2009-08-25
    Age : 44
    Location : Croatia

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Viktor Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:12 am

    Two new pictures from Dima

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems I3b1tt
    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Iwn5zo
    Cyberspec
    Cyberspec


    Posts : 2904
    Points : 3057
    Join date : 2011-08-08
    Location : Terra Australis

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Cyberspec Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:30 am

    'Talisman' - ECM System by 'Defence Initiative' (Belorussia)

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Th_916174634_talisman_122_122_459lo
     
       

    Work on the creation of "Talisman" was carried out in the period from April 2007 to July 2012. The prototype of the "Talisman" is the electronic countermeasures equipment "Satellite" which is produced by 558 aircraft repair plant in g . Baranovichi ( Belarus ).

    "Satellite" is designed to protect aircraft from guided missiles ( aircraft and anti-aircraft missiles ) to a radar guidance system in the frequency range of 8.0-10.0 GHz (wavelength of ~ 3 cm). The equipment of "Satellite" is included in the program of modernization of the Su-27 and is in service by the Air Force of Kazakhstan.

    Development BKO "Talisman" to ensure the protection of aircraft from guided missiles in the frequency range 4,0-12,0 GHz (wavelengths of ~ 5.3 cm)was completed in January 2011.

    In April 2012, completed the development and testing of the BKO "Talisman" that protects the aircraft from air defense systems in the frequency range 12.0-18.0 GHz (wavelength of ~ 2 cm).

    Developer and manufacturer of BKO "Talisman" is OOO "Defence Initiative", Minsk ( Belarus ).


    Source, including list of missiles it jams in the link below:
    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%9A%D0%9E_%C2%AB%D0%A2%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BD%C2%BB

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Th_915112429_talisman0_122_392lo electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Th_291511544_talisman6_122_558loelectronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Th_915119286_talisman7_122_277loelectronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Th_916298706_talisman_11_122_15lo
       


    Brochure
    http://defin.by/products/Talisman.pdf

    .
    Viktor
    Viktor


    Posts : 5796
    Points : 6429
    Join date : 2009-08-25
    Age : 44
    Location : Croatia

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Viktor Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:18 pm

    The state defense order for 2013 Complexes "Krasuha 4" is made entirely

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Y402VDG

    Krasuha-4 delivered in full for year 2013 (2 sets)
    medo
    medo


    Posts : 4343
    Points : 4423
    Join date : 2010-10-24
    Location : Slovenia

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  medo Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:15 pm

    Excellent, this will improve air defense capabilities.
    avatar
    calripson


    Posts : 753
    Points : 808
    Join date : 2013-10-26

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Krasuha-4

    Post  calripson Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:04 am

    So were 4 or 2 units delivered ? What does two sets mean ? What exactly are the capabilities and function of this system ?
    Viktor
    Viktor


    Posts : 5796
    Points : 6429
    Join date : 2009-08-25
    Age : 44
    Location : Croatia

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Viktor Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:34 am

    calripson wrote:So were 4 or 2 units delivered ? What does two sets mean ? What exactly are the capabilities and function of this system ?
    Sets = battalion sets of ECM equipment. 

    During 2013 Russian Army received 2 battalion sets of Krasuha-4 and now has 6 sets overal because system production started in 2011 meaning KRET production capacity is enough to 

    pop out two battalion sets per year. 

    LINK - here is another link with little more infor about it and pictures from the delivery. 

    Anyway capabilities and function of this system is to blind JSTARS/AWACS/Rivet Joint/ units of the enemy forces but also fighter radar, comunications, smart bombs and missiles up to 

    few hundered kilometers away etc. They work within Russian radar units as part of PVO.
    medo
    medo


    Posts : 4343
    Points : 4423
    Join date : 2010-10-24
    Location : Slovenia

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  medo Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:31 pm

    Are Krasuha-2 and Krasuha-4 delivered together or in different sets? How many of them both they got?
    avatar
    calripson


    Posts : 753
    Points : 808
    Join date : 2013-10-26

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty How many units in a battalion ?

    Post  calripson Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:06 pm

    How many units make up a battalion ?
    avatar
    Rpg type 7v


    Posts : 245
    Points : 97
    Join date : 2011-05-01

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Rpg type 7v Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:19 pm

    such a juicy target for harm...
    medo
    medo


    Posts : 4343
    Points : 4423
    Join date : 2010-10-24
    Location : Slovenia

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  medo Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:34 pm

    Nah, Pantsir, Tor or Morphei will take care for harm. Wink 
    Viktor
    Viktor


    Posts : 5796
    Points : 6429
    Join date : 2009-08-25
    Age : 44
    Location : Croatia

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Viktor Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:58 pm

    10 pieces of 1L262 delivered to Russian Army

    Defense procurement supply systems "Mercury-BM" in 2013 made


    Multifunctional complex "Mercury-BM" is designed to protect personnel and equipment from defeat artillery shells and rockets equipped with different types of radio controlled fuses. In addition, the complex is used for jamming communication and radar systems


    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems 4n8uc

    Excellent description from Bastion Karpenko

    LINK
    avatar
    CaptainPakistan


    Posts : 18
    Points : -6
    Join date : 2013-12-03

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  CaptainPakistan Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:38 pm

    This is a usless system. One F-16 in wild weasel role makes all of this scrap metal. Russia would be better off investing in building a system like Patriot to replace its obsolete S-300.
    GarryB
    GarryB


    Posts : 40580
    Points : 41082
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  GarryB Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:38 am

    This is a usless system. One F-16 in wild weasel role makes all of this scrap metal.
    How would an F-16 deal with proximity fused munitions?

    Besides unlike the US the Russians tend to make systems for all branches, so their navy, army, and airforce all have systems that in the US only the air force would have.

    The Russian Army has better SAMs than the US AF, while the Russian Navy are introducing missiles that are even better.

    Viktor
    Viktor


    Posts : 5796
    Points : 6429
    Join date : 2009-08-25
    Age : 44
    Location : Croatia

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Viktor Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:17 pm

    Lots of new military stuff we know nothing about is entering Russian Army. 

    Well, here is another one of them: Moscow-1. I suspect its (beside being iteration of Russian passive radar) actually a command system for Russian ELINT and ECM/ECCM radio troops. 

    Up to 2016, 10 Moscow-1 systems will be delivered to Russian radio troops with the price tag of 107 million $. 

    Concern "Radio-electronic technology" has begun shipping the newest electronic warfare systems "Moscow-1" for the Russian armed forces

    "Newest complex using modern digital technology allows for the passive radar to scan the airspace to detect and transmit data to other systems on the enemy electronic warfare and air defense and aviation, driving them to neutralize and destroy targets. "


    Ground complex "Moscow-1" is intended for conducting electronic intelligence, management of radio interference and jamming (REP). The system allows you to scan the airspace and detect vehicles equipped with radioactive elements and enemy projectiles in the passive radar, ie picks their own radio waves, and then transmits the data to other media or EW systems, air defense and air force to neutralize and destroy targets.



    So complex Moscow-1 does:


    - electronic intelligence (passive radar up to 400km)
    - managment of radio interference
    - jamming 


    Besides being passive radar system it apparently has its ECM/ECCM conponent too as the complex is comprised of:


    1L265E control station
    - 3x 1L266E radar jammers mounted on Kamaz trucks. 


    and specifications:


    - 4 crew
    - 45 minute deployment time
    - -40/+50 °C


    Remember that:


    Krasuha-2 is 1L269
    Krasuha-4 is 1L257
    Krasuha-20 - > I believe we are seing it in a form of Moscow-1 complex. 


    "Moscow-1" enters the Russian Army


    KRET begun shipping the newest complexes EW "Moscow-1" for the Ministry of Defense



    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems WgjGF59

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems 207CZjg


    "Manage the "Moscow-1" like a computer strategy. Immediately displayed on multiple monitors air situation. Operator allocates funds on the tablet and destruction indicates objective to be hit."




    LINK
    Viktor
    Viktor


    Posts : 5796
    Points : 6429
    Join date : 2009-08-25
    Age : 44
    Location : Croatia

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Viktor Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:44 pm

    KRET introduce a new set of electronic warfare 2016

    Newest electronic warfare complex "Moscow" mode allows passive radar to scan the airspace to detect and transmit data to other systems on the enemy electronic warfare. "Moscow" is able to simultaneously manage nine air defense complexes.

    And more advance version of the complex Moscow in development (yet we know nothing about this one) named "Divnomore" (Дивноморье)
    Viktor
    Viktor


    Posts : 5796
    Points : 6429
    Join date : 2009-08-25
    Age : 44
    Location : Croatia

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Viktor Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:39 am

    Complex Moscow-1  thumbsup 

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems MA8KRm6


    LINK


    And will work in conjunction with the systems Krasuha-2 and Krasuha-4 and is intendent to replace previous system Mauzer-1. 

    And here they are all together as we saw earlier but did not understand what are we looking at  russia 

    Three vehicles from the right are Moscow-1 complex and two vehicles from the left are Krasuha-4 complex

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems OlPaW9p


    First vehicle from the right is Krasuha-2 and two vehicles from the left are Moscow-1 complex 

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems YUtA817


    And Dima blog about Moscow-1 complex

    Moscow 1L267-1 modules 1L265 / 1L266
    Viktor
    Viktor


    Posts : 5796
    Points : 6429
    Join date : 2009-08-25
    Age : 44
    Location : Croatia

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Viktor Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:32 pm

    Krasuha-4




    "Krasuha-4" - a formidable weapon against any air targets unique complex electronic warfare enters the Russian Army


    "The system creates conditions that hit enemies in our aircraft and shoot down one or the other plane is very difficult when the complex" Krasuha-4. "99%, which is impossible," - said General Director Nikolai Kolesov KRET."


    "Such smart car - its weight in gold. Their mission - to act on the strategically important areas. Where a particularly active razvedovatelnaya aviation and even space spy satellite grouping. Tactical and technical characteristics "Krasuhi-4" - a military secret. However, we know from public sources, that its radius of action exceeds 300 km. On the question of height developers with a smile replied: "enough, will not find."
    Viktor
    Viktor


    Posts : 5796
    Points : 6429
    Join date : 2009-08-25
    Age : 44
    Location : Croatia

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Viktor Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:53 pm

    Nice read about Russian new ground ECM

    Russian military makes strides in electronic warfare
    Viktor
    Viktor


    Posts : 5796
    Points : 6429
    Join date : 2009-08-25
    Age : 44
    Location : Croatia

    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Viktor Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:48 am

    Excellent read. Just great.

    The threat of the fifth element - and few points:

    1. Moscow-1 complex delivered recently was the first out of nine ordered by Russian MoD


    2. Use of ground based ECM in a form of 

      - protection from cruise missiles/PGM etc 

    (Imagine a missile attack on any object in the Russian territory. It was nice to see several missiles are getting closer to the goal. And then somewhere in the distance a mile, like an invisible wall stumbled on a protective dome, one after another, they began to explode in the air. However, representing the display of a new technology specialist Vladimir Mikheev immediately explained that the effect of a collision with a solid wall - an illusion. In fact rocket bearing, in their direction immediately sent a powerful radiation flux of ultrahigh frequency (UHF), and at a greater distance from the attacked object means guaranteed enemy attack destroyed or completely evaporate.)

      - protection of air defense fighters already in the air/combat (now this is something we did not know) and protection aparently increases survival chances of fighters by 30 TIMES. 

    (A new complex jamming "Khibiny" making it virtually invisible to all air defense systems of any aircraft. As the director of the Department of defense contracts in the same holding Vladimir Mikheev, with the installation of such protection on the Su-30, Su-34, Su-35 in their survivability objectively increased 30 times. That is, they become almost impossible to bring down the existing air defense systems in the world.)


      - supression of AWACS/ELINT etc 



    3. Up to 400km range in passive radar detection



    4. "Divnomore" complex of next generation that will suplement Moscow-1 system (Krasuha-2 and Krasuha-4 with passive detection system) but MUCH MORE POWERFUL because 
        it is intended to replace Pelena ECM and Topol-E but also intended to cover space based asstes although Krasuha-4 is able to do that.



    5. Fight with the company "Russian electronics" to provide 100% electronics for the systems (which are as of now 82%) - it takes lots of time and money to check all imported parts

    Sponsored content


    electronic - Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Empty Re: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

    Post  Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:56 am