Turkish-Cyprus (Greece) tensions

Isos wrote:Russia doesn't give a fuck about who rules Turkey as long as they don't close or threaten russian ships in the Bosphorus strait.

Turkey hasn't got the military, economical or political power to face Russia. No matter what Erdogan pretends. He has 200 f16, few corvettes and subs and no air defence system. How could he face su57, tupolevs, kalibr and other cruise missiles, s-400, economical pressure from russia ?

The big issue is in the mediteranean with Greece, Cyprus and Egypt. And that's EU's problem.

Turkey signals more tension with Greece over migrants, saying border is open

Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu has signalled that more tension is to come with Greece after he said that Turkey will maintain its open-door border policy for migrants and refugees to cross over into Europe, Greek newspaper Kathimerini said.

“Anyone who wants to can go to Europe, we do not prevent it,” Çavuşoğlu said in comments to Turkey’s Akit TV.

Çavuşoğlu also denounced what he described as Greece’s “inhumane” behaviour toward migrants seeking to cross into the country. “The West’s non-reaction to Greece’s inhumane behaviour at the border is an unacceptable situation,” he said.

Turkey has criticised Greece for suspending asylum applications and deploying violence against migrants trying to cross. A report this month by Sky News and several open-source investigators found that the bullet which killed a migrant at the border in March likely came from the Greek side of the border.

Greece has accused Turkey of encouraging and coordinating the attempted crossings and of firing tear gas over the border.

Çavuşoğlu’s remarks to Akit TV have increased concern in Greece, which has been strengthening its resources at its Evros land border in anticipation of another possible migrant surge from Turkey similar to the one in February and March, when thousands of people attempted to cross into Greece.

Turkey announced in late February it would no longer prevent migrants from trying to reach Europe. The move was perceived as an attempt to drum up more European Union aid for the roughly four million refugees inside Turkey, and to rally European support for Turkey’s military campaign in Idlib, Syria.

Against this backdrop, tensions between Turkey and Greece have also been growing over recent weeks due to a dispute over gas exploration rights off the coast of Cyprus, and Turkish violations of Greek airspace.

Turkey conducted more violations of Greek airspace on Wednesday with a pair of F-16s flying over the eastern Aegean islet of Farmakonisi, Kathimerini said.

Earlier this month, Greece accused Turkish fighter jets of harassing a helicopter carrying Greek Defence Minister Nikolaos Panagiotopoulos.

Turkey's violation of Greek airspace and territorial waters in the Aegean Sea sharply increased in 2019, especially over the last months of the year.

"The number of violations of Greek national airspace by Turkish military aircraft reached 4,811 in 2019, the largest number in one calendar year since 1987. There were 384 mock dogfights between Greek and Turkish fighter jets last year, while there were only 13 such fights in 2010," a report by the Hellenic National Defence General Staff said in January.

Greece accuses Turkey of seizing its border territory

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BEIRUT, LEBANON (5:00 P.M.) – The Greek government recently accused Turkey of seizing some of its territory along its eastern border.

Turkey responded on Saturday by stating that it would not allow de facto borders after Athens complained to Ankara that Turkish forces had seized land at the course of the Evros River that separates the two countries.

A statement by the Turkish Foreign Ministry said, “Ankara informed Greece that the river course has changed significantly for natural and artificial reasons, since 1926 when the borders were established, and that the solution requires technical coordination.”

The ministry said, “The dispute can be resolved through talks between the technical delegations of the two countries, which is a proposal submitted by Ankara to Athens, adding,” We will not allow any form of de facto on our borders. ”

For his part, Greek Foreign Minister Nikos Dendias said last Wednesday that “the course of the river has changed”, indicating that there was tension between the two countries for this reason.

Greek media reported on Friday that Turkish forces occupied a piece of land that is usually submerged in water at this time of the year, located on the Greek side of the border.

UAE sends 9 military aircraft to Greece as tensions with Turkey intensify

Isos wrote:Does Turkey contest the islands off their coast ?

George1 wrote:Arab states are with our side

George1 wrote:

Isos wrote:Does Turkey contest the islands off their coast ?

they basically contest Aegean islands Continental Shelf

Isos wrote:

George1 wrote:

Isos wrote:Does Turkey contest the islands off their coast ?

they basically contest Aegean islands Continental Shelf

I know nothing about those islands but that part of the world has a huge history. And we all know history is made at 90% if not more of wars which means control of the ground going from one to another.

So both can ask for the islands.

That's the problem with contested lands. There will never be a solution that agrees both sides.

nomadski wrote:Access to mineral resources. There is no dispute regarding this, if said resources are in land or sea territory of a nation. The problems arise when such resources are in international waters or territory without any permanent inhabitants, such as North or South Pole, or perhaps other planets or the moon !

PapaDragon wrote:
So what about other 200 jets they need to catch up?

Gotta love the French, entertainment for the ages

Isos wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
So what about other 200 jets they need to catch up?

Gotta love the French, entertainment for the ages

Greece has around 150 f16 and 40 mirage 2000-5. With 12 Rafale more they will have 200 jets. And a good aur defence.

Turkey has 240 f-16 I think but its experienced pilots are gone.

Advantage Greece.

Isos wrote:Yes. Kurds in the south east. Syria/Russia in the south. Russia/Armenia/Iran in the east. Cyrprus also in the west.

They can allow only 1/4 if its jets to confront Greece.