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Russian Railways: News
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Russian_Patriot_ wrote:
Now high-speed trains run only between Moscow and St. Petersburg.
it is not very clear where this myth comes from about the fact that the "Sapsan" goes only between Moscow and St. Petersburg. The route between Moscow and Nizhny Novgorod also continues to work.
There are also many Lastochka trains that can reach speeds of up to 150 km / h on the route.
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I forgot about route between Moscow and NNScorpius wrote:Russian_Patriot_ wrote:
Now high-speed trains run only between Moscow and St. Petersburg.
it is not very clear where this myth comes from about the fact that the "Sapsan" goes only between Moscow and St. Petersburg. The route between Moscow and Nizhny Novgorod also continues to work.
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Sapsan of new generation will be launched between Moscow and St. Petersburg in 2022.
The new-generation Sapsan high-speed train arrived at the Seaport of St. Petersburg on Friday. The newest German train of ten cars will be launched in 2022, the press service of Russian Railways reported in the official Telegram channel.
"Sapsan has arrived in St. Petersburg <...> This is the first of 13 high-speed trains of the new batch. It will be launched on the route next year" – the press service said.
Before entering the line between Moscow and St. Petersburg, the train from Siemens will undergo additional equipment and a series of tests. After it, in 2022-2023, Russian Railways will launch 12 more new Sapsans on the line.
As noted in the press service of Russian Railways, at the moment passengers are transported by 16 high-speed trains "Sapsan", but this number does not meet the demand for trips between the two cities.
The contract for the supply of 13 new high-speed Velaro trains, called Sapsan in Russia, was signed between Russian Railways and Siemens in June 2019 at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF). The total value of the contract was almost €1.1 billion. According to the agreement, the trains themselves are manufactured in the city of Krefeld in the west of Germany, and the interior elements must be installed on the basis of the Metallostroy depot in St. Petersburg.
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The new-generation Sapsan high-speed train arrived at the Seaport of St. Petersburg on Friday. The newest German train of ten cars will be launched in 2022, the press service of Russian Railways reported in the official Telegram channel.
"Sapsan has arrived in St. Petersburg <...> This is the first of 13 high-speed trains of the new batch. It will be launched on the route next year" – the press service said.
Before entering the line between Moscow and St. Petersburg, the train from Siemens will undergo additional equipment and a series of tests. After it, in 2022-2023, Russian Railways will launch 12 more new Sapsans on the line.
As noted in the press service of Russian Railways, at the moment passengers are transported by 16 high-speed trains "Sapsan", but this number does not meet the demand for trips between the two cities.
The contract for the supply of 13 new high-speed Velaro trains, called Sapsan in Russia, was signed between Russian Railways and Siemens in June 2019 at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF). The total value of the contract was almost €1.1 billion. According to the agreement, the trains themselves are manufactured in the city of Krefeld in the west of Germany, and the interior elements must be installed on the basis of the Metallostroy depot in St. Petersburg.
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Unloading of the new Sapsan train in the port of St. PetersburgRussian_Patriot_ wrote:Sapsan of new generation will be launched between Moscow and St. Petersburg in 2022.
The new-generation Sapsan high-speed train arrived at the Seaport of St. Petersburg on Friday. The newest German train of ten cars will be launched in 2022, the press service of Russian Railways reported in the official Telegram channel.
"Sapsan has arrived in St. Petersburg <...> This is the first of 13 high-speed trains of the new batch. It will be launched on the route next year" – the press service said.
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Shame that the different gauge meant that it couldn't be driven over, even if it had to be towed.
Russian_Patriot_ wrote:Sapsan of new generation will be launched between Moscow and St. Petersburg in 2022.
The new-generation Sapsan high-speed train arrived at the Seaport of St. Petersburg on Friday. The newest German train of ten cars will be launched in 2022, the press service of Russian Railways reported in the official Telegram channel.
Shame that the different gauge meant that it couldn't be driven over, even if it had to be towed.
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Russian_Patriot_ wrote:Sapsan of new generation will be launched between Moscow and St. Petersburg in 2022.
The new-generation Sapsan high-speed train arrived at the Seaport of St. Petersburg on Friday. The newest German train of ten cars will be launched in 2022, the press service of Russian Railways reported in the official Telegram channel.
"Sapsan has arrived in St. Petersburg <...> This is the first of 13 high-speed trains of the new batch. It will be launched on the route next year" – the press service said.
Before entering the line between Moscow and St. Petersburg, the train from Siemens will undergo additional equipment and a series of tests. After it, in 2022-2023, Russian Railways will launch 12 more new Sapsans on the line.
As noted in the press service of Russian Railways, at the moment passengers are transported by 16 high-speed trains "Sapsan", but this number does not meet the demand for trips between the two cities.
The contract for the supply of 13 new high-speed Velaro trains, called Sapsan in Russia, was signed between Russian Railways and Siemens in June 2019 at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF). The total value of the contract was almost €1.1 billion. According to the agreement, the trains themselves are manufactured in the city of Krefeld in the west of Germany, and the interior elements must be installed on the basis of the Metallostroy depot in St. Petersburg.
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Why are they importing these costly trains from Germany? Why can't they build these inside Russia already? Where is the import substitution?
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Now Sinara (Ural Locomotives) develop the Russian high-speed train and build plant for it. But train will be ready only in 2028owais.usmani wrote:Why are they importing these costly trains from Germany? Why can't they build these inside Russia already? Where is the import substitution?
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Russia has already established a domestic production venture for high speed rail stock. This subject was extensively covered
before in this forum.
before in this forum.
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The Sortavala-Lodeynoye Pole line, updated by Russian Railways this year, received 16 new platforms, which were decorated with wooden materials
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Diesel locomotive 3TE25K2M in a new design from TMH
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TMH has produced a new batch of passenger cars for tourist routes.
Tver Carriage Building Plant (TVZ, part of Transmashholding JSC) has fulfilled a contract with the Sverdlovsk Suburban Company for the supply of six passenger cars with seating arrangements.
The cars are designed for inter-regional transportation and are manufactured in three versions. The standard layout is designed for 60 seats. Ergonomic chairs have the function of adjusting the angle of the backrest, armrests, folding tables, leg supports. The cars are equipped with air conditioning systems, information boards, devices with drinking water, showcases, and eco-friendly toilet complexes. In the car interiors there are monitors for broadcasting educational programs, movies and other information.
In the cars of improved layout — 40 seats with the possibility of turning the seats 180 degrees. It also has folding tables and leg supports, and personal audio modules and sockets are installed in each block of seats.
The cars of the third modification are designed for comfortable travel of 45 people, including passengers with disabilities, including those traveling in a wheelchair.
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Tver Carriage Building Plant (TVZ, part of Transmashholding JSC) has fulfilled a contract with the Sverdlovsk Suburban Company for the supply of six passenger cars with seating arrangements.
The cars are designed for inter-regional transportation and are manufactured in three versions. The standard layout is designed for 60 seats. Ergonomic chairs have the function of adjusting the angle of the backrest, armrests, folding tables, leg supports. The cars are equipped with air conditioning systems, information boards, devices with drinking water, showcases, and eco-friendly toilet complexes. In the car interiors there are monitors for broadcasting educational programs, movies and other information.
In the cars of improved layout — 40 seats with the possibility of turning the seats 180 degrees. It also has folding tables and leg supports, and personal audio modules and sockets are installed in each block of seats.
The cars of the third modification are designed for comfortable travel of 45 people, including passengers with disabilities, including those traveling in a wheelchair.
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An English-language thread with updates on Russian railways for anyone interested
https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/russia-railways.465335/page-127
https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/russia-railways.465335/page-127
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First cross-river railway bridge between China and Russia completed
(CNN) — A new bridge that will link Russia and China's railway systems was completed on August 17, 2021, seven years after its much-heralded groundbreaking.
The structure's full name is the China-Russia Tongjiang-Nizhneleninskoye Bridge. It connects Tongjiang, a city in China's far northeastern Heilongjiang province, with Nizhneleninskoye, a town across the border with Russia along the banks of the Amur River. Heilongjiang province's capital is Harbin, known for its annual snow and ice festival.
This means that China's northeast railway network can now be connected with the Russian Siberian Railway.
The bridge is 2,215 meters (7,300 feet) long and has been seven years in the making. Both countries held groundbreaking ceremonies in February 2014. The bridge structure was finished in 2019, and the final piece of track laid on August 17. The majority of the bridge -- 1,886 meters (6,200 feet) -- is on the Chinese side.
The Tongjiang-Nizhneleninskoye Bridge isn't the only bridge linking two of the world's biggest countries. A road bridge -- which can handle regular freight coming on trucks but not railway trains -- was unveiled in 2019, connecting Heihe in China and Blagoveshchensk in Russia.
These two cities are also working on what will be the world's first cross-national-border cable car, designed by Dutch architects UNStudio. When complete, it will be able to ferry tourists from one side to the other in less than eight minutes.
In addition, Mohe, China's permafrost-covered northernmost city, was finally connected via highway to Beijing in 2019. The Tongjiang-Nizhneleninskoye Bridge is the latest project completed under China's ambitious Belt and Road initiative, which aims to, among other things, connect Eurasia through infrastructure.
The ruling Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has stated a goal to make it possible to go from China all the way to London via rail, which makes this bridge a critical next step in a longer journey across the continent.
According to China National Radio, with the completion of the bridge, the railway transportation distance from China's Heilongjiang province to Moscow via Tongjiang will be shortened by 809 kilometers (500 miles), cutting 10 hours of transportation time. The bridge can reportedly handle 21 million metric tons of cargo per year.
https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/tongjiang-china-russia-bridge-complete-intl-hnk/index.html
(CNN) — A new bridge that will link Russia and China's railway systems was completed on August 17, 2021, seven years after its much-heralded groundbreaking.
The structure's full name is the China-Russia Tongjiang-Nizhneleninskoye Bridge. It connects Tongjiang, a city in China's far northeastern Heilongjiang province, with Nizhneleninskoye, a town across the border with Russia along the banks of the Amur River. Heilongjiang province's capital is Harbin, known for its annual snow and ice festival.
This means that China's northeast railway network can now be connected with the Russian Siberian Railway.
The bridge is 2,215 meters (7,300 feet) long and has been seven years in the making. Both countries held groundbreaking ceremonies in February 2014. The bridge structure was finished in 2019, and the final piece of track laid on August 17. The majority of the bridge -- 1,886 meters (6,200 feet) -- is on the Chinese side.
The Tongjiang-Nizhneleninskoye Bridge isn't the only bridge linking two of the world's biggest countries. A road bridge -- which can handle regular freight coming on trucks but not railway trains -- was unveiled in 2019, connecting Heihe in China and Blagoveshchensk in Russia.
These two cities are also working on what will be the world's first cross-national-border cable car, designed by Dutch architects UNStudio. When complete, it will be able to ferry tourists from one side to the other in less than eight minutes.
In addition, Mohe, China's permafrost-covered northernmost city, was finally connected via highway to Beijing in 2019. The Tongjiang-Nizhneleninskoye Bridge is the latest project completed under China's ambitious Belt and Road initiative, which aims to, among other things, connect Eurasia through infrastructure.
The ruling Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has stated a goal to make it possible to go from China all the way to London via rail, which makes this bridge a critical next step in a longer journey across the continent.
According to China National Radio, with the completion of the bridge, the railway transportation distance from China's Heilongjiang province to Moscow via Tongjiang will be shortened by 809 kilometers (500 miles), cutting 10 hours of transportation time. The bridge can reportedly handle 21 million metric tons of cargo per year.
https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/tongjiang-china-russia-bridge-complete-intl-hnk/index.html
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The newest four-axle two-diesel TEM-23 shunting diesel locomotive of modular design
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New design of the 3TE25K2M mainline freight locomotive
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The Ivolga 3.0 DC electric train. The main feature of the train is the speed, which has become more than 160 km/h and acceleration to 1.0 m/s. This is the fastest city train that is currently available in our country.
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Ural Locomotives presented a new project of the Lastochka Beta electric train.
A new development is the project of the electric train "Lastochka.Beta "for urban agglomerations was presented by the Ural Locomotives plant at the first International scientific and Practical conference "Science 1520 VNIIZHT: look beyond the horizon". The conference is held as part of the business program of the International Railway Exhibition "PRO//Dvizhenie Expo" at the VNIIZHT test site in Shcherbinka (Moscow), the Ural machine-building enterprise reported on Friday.
Speaking at the round table "Urban passenger transportation", the head of the Project Management Center of Ural Locomotives, Grigory Golubev, highlighted the features of the spatial development of large urban associations and ways to solve them. The intensive development of industrial, transport and cultural ties is hindered, first of all, by the discrepancy between the main transport infrastructure and the needs of the economy and the population, as well as the low transport connectivity of the centers of economic growth among themselves and with other territories.
"The new "Lastochka.Beta" from Ural Locomotives is being designed to solve these tasks as efficiently as possible. The train is designed to operate with an acceleration of 1 m / s2, which allows you to effectively control the speed during frequent stops. The new "Lastochka" will be equipped with an autonomous running option and adapted for different platform heights (from 200 mm to 1100), which will allow it to be operated in any regions of Russia without structural changes" – the press service of the enterprise said.
Expanded doorways will speed up the process of boarding and disembarking passengers on the platform to save time resources. In the new modification, the company's specialists plan to minimize the impact on the infrastructure, while maintaining the comfort, reliability and safety indicators of the already proven high-speed electric trains "Lastochka".
"The projected modification of passenger rolling stock can become an effective tool that contributes to the development of agglomerations in certain regions of the country and the creation of a macroeconomic effect for various spheres of activity due to the emergence of a comfortable high - speed railway transport connection between settlements" – Golubev said.
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A new development is the project of the electric train "Lastochka.Beta "for urban agglomerations was presented by the Ural Locomotives plant at the first International scientific and Practical conference "Science 1520 VNIIZHT: look beyond the horizon". The conference is held as part of the business program of the International Railway Exhibition "PRO//Dvizhenie Expo" at the VNIIZHT test site in Shcherbinka (Moscow), the Ural machine-building enterprise reported on Friday.
Speaking at the round table "Urban passenger transportation", the head of the Project Management Center of Ural Locomotives, Grigory Golubev, highlighted the features of the spatial development of large urban associations and ways to solve them. The intensive development of industrial, transport and cultural ties is hindered, first of all, by the discrepancy between the main transport infrastructure and the needs of the economy and the population, as well as the low transport connectivity of the centers of economic growth among themselves and with other territories.
"The new "Lastochka.Beta" from Ural Locomotives is being designed to solve these tasks as efficiently as possible. The train is designed to operate with an acceleration of 1 m / s2, which allows you to effectively control the speed during frequent stops. The new "Lastochka" will be equipped with an autonomous running option and adapted for different platform heights (from 200 mm to 1100), which will allow it to be operated in any regions of Russia without structural changes" – the press service of the enterprise said.
Expanded doorways will speed up the process of boarding and disembarking passengers on the platform to save time resources. In the new modification, the company's specialists plan to minimize the impact on the infrastructure, while maintaining the comfort, reliability and safety indicators of the already proven high-speed electric trains "Lastochka".
"The projected modification of passenger rolling stock can become an effective tool that contributes to the development of agglomerations in certain regions of the country and the creation of a macroeconomic effect for various spheres of activity due to the emergence of a comfortable high - speed railway transport connection between settlements" – Golubev said.
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Russian_Patriot_ wrote:Speaking at the round table "Urban passenger transportation", the head of the Project Management Center of Ural Locomotives, Grigory Golubev, highlighted the features of the spatial development of large urban associations and ways to solve them. The intensive development of industrial, transport and cultural ties is hindered, first of all, by the discrepancy between the main transport infrastructure and the needs of the economy and the population, as well as the low transport connectivity of the centers of economic growth among themselves and with other territories.
These retards only now figured it out
160 km/h is considered as 'high-speed' in Russia
And even the Sapsan is only 250 km/h or so
That's nothing for France, Spain, Germany, never mind Japan or China.
And what's the distance between major cities in Russia in comparison to those countries?
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160 km/h is considered as 'high-speed' in Russia
Given that (correct me if I an wrong) it is apparently a train for city service, therefore running on pre-exisitng tracks, then yes it is a fast train.
And even the Sapsan is only 250 km/h or so
Its a little slower than most fast train services which usually top out at ~300 km/h, but even so, its nothing to sniff at. Here in Aus we can only dream about HSR, and as for the accursed seppos... Amtrak would be considered substandard even in bangladesh
That's nothing for France, Spain, Germany, never mind Japan or China.
And what's the distance between major cities in Russia in comparison to those countries?
Relatively short distances between major cities is a big advantage for developing HSR as it keeps the capital costs down and makes its rollout a more manageable affair. Its hardly a surprise that the more compact nations can develop HSR more readily that large sprawling nations liek Russia. China is an exception to this rule as they have more cash than doG and and are determined to develop at a breakneck pace.
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China is hardly an exception to this overall rule you have mentioned. They operate those lines among highly urbanized and developed parts of China, where you can hardly spot the difference if you are in one city or another. All you said, is perfectly applied there. My friends in China find it usual to travel 100km to work, one way. Road and rail infrastructure makes it perfectly possible.
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Big_Gazza wrote:160 km/h is considered as 'high-speed' in Russia
Given that (correct me if I an wrong) it is apparently a train for city service, therefore running on pre-exisitng tracks, then yes it is a fast train.
No, that's traditionally considered a 'high speed train' for long-distance services between cities. Like Murmansk and St. Petersburg, or Moscow and Samara, or whatever.
It's pretty disgraceful as nothing has been done since the collapse of the USSR, other than the Sapsan trains from Moscow to St. Petersburg and Nizhny Novgorod (and a slightly slower train from St. Petersburg to Helsinki)
The country is hugely behind on high-speed rail and even about the latest plans for the 400 km/h high-speed rail line between Moscow and St. Petersburg I'm not optimistic. For one, because so far no other high-speed rail lines have been approved; even the Moscow to Kazan one is still on the drawing board. And secondly, because that will require a whole new line to be built exclusively for the high-speed trains; at this stage it makes more sense to skip the high-speed rail and go straight to maglev trains. We'll end up with the same speed at first - about 400 km/h, but it's a more perspective technology and maglevs will only be getting faster in the decades to come. But again they're too retarded to consider it.
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1) All the testimonials on Youtube affirm that the Russian railway system runs on time, unlike the UK, USA and Canada.
2) Canadians and Americans can only dream of rail going faster than 150 km/hr. But for Russia 160 to 250 km/hr is some
sort of fail.
3) Nobody needs to commute between St. Petersburg and Vladivostok on a daily basis. So the distance argument is lame.
Also, the USA and Canada have distances much vaster than France and Japan and neither have rail going faster than 150 km/hr.
In Canada, the primary passenger rail operator, VIA, is using the same railway system as used by freight. There are multiple
sections of track that require speeds under 100 km/hr due to poor condition.
So we have the usual double standard. Cherry pick a few places outside Russia with high speed rail and claim that if Russia
does not do the same, then it is failing. By that measure the USA, Canada, UK and most developed countries are failures
as well.
2) Canadians and Americans can only dream of rail going faster than 150 km/hr. But for Russia 160 to 250 km/hr is some
sort of fail.
3) Nobody needs to commute between St. Petersburg and Vladivostok on a daily basis. So the distance argument is lame.
Also, the USA and Canada have distances much vaster than France and Japan and neither have rail going faster than 150 km/hr.
In Canada, the primary passenger rail operator, VIA, is using the same railway system as used by freight. There are multiple
sections of track that require speeds under 100 km/hr due to poor condition.
So we have the usual double standard. Cherry pick a few places outside Russia with high speed rail and claim that if Russia
does not do the same, then it is failing. By that measure the USA, Canada, UK and most developed countries are failures
as well.
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The same is true for Germany. The ICE can go very fast, but there are many train stations where it has to stop (some because of local politics) and many bridges where he can only travel with 50km/h.
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Hole wrote:The same is true for Germany. The ICE can go very fast, but there are many train stations where it has to stop (some because of local politics) and many bridges where he can only travel with 50km/h.
There is a route from Berlin to Munich. As it passes Nuremberg, there is a straight rail along with the A9 for ... I can't remember correctly, but it is 100+ km or so. My navi system told me there "keep the route straight for 123 km"
And I could not catch up that train there, driving reasonably for holidays Not sure the speed there, but I guess it goes 250km/h easily. You just feel the pressure wave.