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    Post  kvs Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:55 pm

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    kvs wrote:What atrocious translation.  "Bank notes" likely is corporate bonds instead of government handouts.

    Putin is really talking about banknotes. But he talks about SAVING them. Savings should be achieved by regulating prices and closely monitoring the spending of money. Therefore, those who like a lot of money should moderate their appetite.

    Thanks for the clarification. But issuing corporate bonds to raise money and then recouping the money through sales is a way to
    save money, taxpayer money.

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    Post  franco Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:24 pm

    "Trans-Siberian Incident": Why the Collapse of the Railway Service is Dangerous for Russia

    Very little time has passed since the successful resolution of the "Suez crisis", when the main waterway of the world was blocked by the giant dry cargo ship that lost control. And now a similar problem has arisen on the main overland transport artery of Eurasia, our Transsib. As a result of erosion by heavy rainfall, a railway bridge collapsed along its route, which has already become the cause of a real collapse. How soon will the Emergencies Ministry and Russian Railways be able to resolve the "Trans-Siberian incident", and what conclusions can be drawn from this whole unfortunate situation?

    The day before, on July 23, a railway bridge collapsed on a remote, remote section of this highway in the Trans-Baikal Territory. Fortunately, this did not happen while the train was moving along it, so no one was hurt. But this is perhaps the only good news . As a result of the accident, the most important railway line, which connects the whole of Russia and is an integral part of the overall pan-Eurasian transport system, was actually cut. How did this become possible?

    At first glance, the reason is trivial. Severe downpours in the Trans-Baikal Territory eroded highways, and at the same time led to a powerful flood on the rivers, undermining the pillars of the railway bridge. As a result, its structure could not stand it and collapsed. Rescuers are working at the scene, the movement of trains in both directions is stopped. It would seem that we have not seen here? Quite recently, the Crimea and the Kuban flooded in a similar way, and after the flood swept away several cities in prosperous Germany and Poland on its way, bringing considerable destruction to other European countries. The state of emergency is similar to them and the fact that the authorities of the Trans-Baikal Territory were also notified in advance of the possibility of flooding due to the flood. But there is one important nuance.

    The fact is that such loads, such as the impact of a stormy river flow, must be calculated in advance in the construction of a railway bridge. This is also a strategically important infrastructure facility, through which trains with passengers and cargo regularly travel. How easily he surrendered to the flood may indicate, among other things, certain violations during the design or, more likely, during construction. However, the final conclusions can be drawn only after the completion of the state examination. But already now, industry experts complain that the Transsib, which requires constant monitoring of the situation, has outdated measuring equipment in places that does not meet modern requirements.

    There is something to think about.

    The problem is much more serious than it seems. What is the Trans-Siberian Railway? This is the longest railway in the world, formally originating in the South Urals in the city of Miass and ending in Vladivostok, but in fact it is the main land transport artery connecting Moscow with the largest cities of Siberia, the Far East and going out to the Pacific coast. Its importance simply cannot be overestimated. About 60% of Chinese exports go through the Transsib from China to Europe. The export of Russian coal, timber and other resources goes to the Celestial Empire in the opposite direction. This is both a transit route and our trade gateway to Asia. When a "thrombus" formed on the Suez Canal, the Trans-Siberian Railway was the most realistic alternative to it.

    Let's see what the break in the railway communication in Transbaikalia has already led to. The stoppage of the movement of trains with coal, metal and fertilizers leads to downtime in the operation of seaports, and this is a daily multi-million dollar loss. There was a forced interruption in the transit of Chinese goods to Europe. Beijing prudently did not put all its eggs in one basket and developed several directions of the "New Silk Road" at once, so this problem will not be critical for it. But on the other hand, the shares of Russia as a reliable transit country in the eyes of European and Chinese carriers may depreciate if we cannot quickly restore rail links. And bridges are not being built as quickly as we would like.

    Here I would like to point out one more important point. The Transsib is a strategically important transport artery that connects our vast country together. If you cut it, Russia is immediately fragmented into several regions unequal in terms of economic and military potential. It is worth recalling that during the period of our difficult relations with China in the middle of the last century, there was a very real risk that the PLA could actually cut the USSR by military force, interrupting the railway communication between Central Russia and the Far East. It is now fashionable in our country to scold and appoint the former Soviet authorities as guilty of all mortal sins, but it was under them that the BAM began to be built as an alternative to the Trans-Siberian Railway, passing much further north, away from the PRC. Naturally,one of the main ideologists of the ideas of liberalism, Yegor Gaidar, at one time could not ignore this project:

    Backed up by all the power of Soviet propaganda, economically absolutely meaningless. They knew how to build roads - this is not to produce competitive products or good consumer goods. The trouble is that no one has ever thought about the elementary question: “Why are we building this road? What are we going to carry along it and in which direction? "

    And then, Yegor Timurovich, we need duplicate railways in such a gigantic country in terms of size and length as Russia. But to understand this, you need to think not like a market operator, but like a statesman. It is quite obvious that the undertaken project of modernization and expansion of the transmission capacities of the Trans-Siberian and BAM is necessary and should be implemented taking into account the incident in Transbaikalia. He will not be insured at all, but the order and control on such important transport arteries should be at the highest level.

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    Post  kvs Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:46 pm

    The fact is that such loads, such as the impact of a stormy river flow, must be calculated in advance in the construction of a railway bridge. This is also a strategically important infrastructure facility, through which trains with passengers and cargo regularly travel. How easily he surrendered to the flood may indicate, among other things, certain violations during the design or, more likely, during construction. However, the final conclusions can be drawn only after the completion of the state examination. But already now, industry experts complain that the Transsib, which requires constant monitoring of the situation, has outdated measuring equipment in places that does not meet modern requirements. wrote:

    This is merely the author's ignorant speculation and hand waving. There is no such thing as engineering for all flood scenarios. The failure of a bridge
    does not prove that it was improperly designed and/or built. Like the usual "critic" the author is assuming that the flooding is within some norm and not a
    1000 year outlier. The deluges in Europe and China over the last few days have been outliers.

    These two bit malcontents and their 5th column drivel are over the top with inanity. The implicit and retarded claim by this author is that Trans-Siberian
    railway bridges have not collapsed so far only because they were not stressed by flooding. And "industry experts" can shove their "complaints" up their
    asses if those complaints are transparent whinging. Grow up.

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    Post  medo Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:04 pm

    Trans Siberian railroad was built in Russian Empire and bridges as well. They for sure were designed for maximal floods and raindrops, but how big were they recorded in that time and how big are they now, when climate is changing? Russin railroad army could quite quickly built ponton railroads to enable transport and than rebuild the bridge. This also mean more traffic for BAM.


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    Post  franco Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:05 pm

    He does sound like a frustrated novelist Smile however the post was to report the interruption to rail traffic.

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    Post  kvs Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:17 pm

    medo wrote:Trans Siberian railroad was built in Russian Empire and bridges as well. They for sure were designed for maximal floods and raindrops, but how big were they recorded in that time and how big are they now, when climate is changing?

    That is exactly the problem. The rainfall flooding statistics have been shifting catastrophically upward over the last 40 years. So called
    500 year floods occurred twice in the span of a 20 years. The flooding seen in Europe over the last few days are historically unprecedented.
    The floods in China are also clear statistical outliers. This article makes zero mention of these facts and instead implicitly claims that bridges can
    be built to withstand arbitrary flooding. Total BS.

    BTW, this is clearly tied to global warming since the Clausius-Clapeyron relation gives an exponential water loading in air in response to
    temperature change. The small warming we have had over the last 40 years has in the global mean increased atmospheric water content
    by over 7%. This is not a uniform haze acting to offset the warming. There is instead a trend to have more intensive deep convection
    rainfall events and low pressure system aggregation of cloud formation. At the same time higher temperatures suppress weak rainfall
    events and overall background cloud formation such as stratiform and shallow convection clouds. Warming has nasty impacts on agriculture
    since the downwelling IR flux acts to dry out the soil faster. So far the impact is relatively small. But by the 2050s we should start to have
    quite noticeable disruption of global agriculture. This is not weather prediction. This is physical process change based on increased
    thermal energy and IR emissions from the air.

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    Post  Hole Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:55 pm

    Here in Germany the floods destroyed/damaged 62 bridges in the western part of the country. One bridge damaged in Siberia? Boo-hoo!

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    Post  medo Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:58 pm



    This was not very large bridge and RZhD said, it will be repaired in few days.

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    Post  franco Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:11 pm

    Freight loading on Trans-Siberian expected to be fully restored after bridge repair by July 28

    YUZHNO-SAKHALINSK. July 27 (Interfax) - Freight loading on the Trans-Siberian Railway in Transbaikal Territory following the repair of a washed-out bridge is expected to be fully restored by July 28, Transport Minister Vitaly Savelyev said.

    "Freight loading resumed at 50% of the operating target on July 26, and on the 28th there are plans to restore loading to 100%," Savelyev said at a meeting with the prime minister.

    In the coming weeks, Russian Railways will have to restart all 526 temporarily halted freight trains.

    https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/72338/

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    Post  medo Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:18 pm



    Russian railways opened the second Baikal tunnel on BAM, 6682 m long, which will naw increase the transport, as it have now two lines with two tunnels.

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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:37 pm

    New Orlans began to run in the Arkhangelsk region. 

    Since August 4, the transport park of the Arkhangelsk region has been updated. RA-3 Orlan rail buses began to run on the routes Arkhangelsk – Obozerskaya and Obozerskaya – Puksa, as reported by the corporate communications service of the Northern Railway.

    Orlans replaced locomotive-drawn cars on new routes. At the same time, the rolling stock was changed without changes in ticket prices and timetables.

    The first rail buses appeared in the Arkhangelsk region last fall. For almost a year of operation, the Orlans have already transported about 250 thousand passengers. It is planned to continue updating the rolling stock of suburban trains in the future.

    RA-3 Orlan rail buses are specially designed for suburban routes on non-electrified sections of railways, it is a modern and comfortable transport.

    The passenger compartment of buses is equipped with electronic displays, climate control and air disinfection systems, airtight inter-car passages, modern sanitary complexes and LED lighting, door opening buttons.

    Automatic doors allow you to increase the capacity of passenger traffic. For passengers with limited mobility, there are lifts for boarding and disembarking, places for wheelchairs and special equipment in the sanitary unit.

    The first Orlan on the Northern Railway set off on the Ivanovo-Kineshma route on July 30, 2020. In the fall of 2020, modern rolling stock began to run in the Arkhangelsk region on the routes Arkhangelsk — Onega and Arkhangelsk – Solombalka.

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:02 am

    New version of the TEM18 locomotive under development, running off LNG

    The TEM18 is not a new design, it was first produced in the early 90s, by default using diesel-electric power.

    However a whole bunch of versions and modifications have been created since, and a new modification to run on LNG and its introduction into service will have serious implications given the model's prolific role as a shunter and light cargo hauler around the country

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    A prototype LNG locomotive design, the TEM19, was created in the 2010s, but only in a single example

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:32 am

    The ZES5K "Ermak" electric locomotive is getting a facelift

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    No change of the technical specs or anything (it's not that old), just a cosmetic change to make it look cooler

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:43 am

    Russian_Patriot_ wrote:New Orlans began to run in the Arkhangelsk region. 

    Since August 4, the transport park of the Arkhangelsk region has been updated. RA-3 Orlan rail buses began to run on the routes Arkhangelsk – Obozerskaya and Obozerskaya – Puksa, as reported by the corporate communications service of the Northern Railway.

    Orlans replaced locomotive-drawn cars on new routes. At the same time, the rolling stock was changed without changes in ticket prices and timetables.

    The first rail buses appeared in the Arkhangelsk region last fall. For almost a year of operation, the Orlans have already transported about 250 thousand passengers. It is planned to continue updating the rolling stock of suburban trains in the future.

    RA-3 Orlan rail buses are specially designed for suburban routes on non-electrified sections of railways, it is a modern and comfortable transport.

    The passenger compartment of buses is equipped with electronic displays, climate control and air disinfection systems, airtight inter-car passages, modern sanitary complexes and LED lighting, door opening buttons.

    Automatic doors allow you to increase the capacity of passenger traffic. For passengers with limited mobility, there are lifts for boarding and disembarking, places for wheelchairs and special equipment in the sanitary unit.

    The first Orlan on the Northern Railway set off on the Ivanovo-Kineshma route on July 30, 2020. In the fall of 2020, modern rolling stock began to run in the Arkhangelsk region on the routes Arkhangelsk — Onega and Arkhangelsk – Solombalka.

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    They're creating a hydrogen-electric powered version of those, to be introduced on Sakhalin island by 2024, where they'll be trialed out.

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    The RA-3 Orlan is a 2 to 3 wagon diesel-electric regional rail bus used to ferry passengers between smaller cities and towns typically, in areas where the railroads aren't electrified. So exactly places like Sakhalin island, the Crimea, the Arkhangelsk region and so on.

    Sakhalin island is also a pilot region for introducing hydrogen infrastructure in general, and I think there are plans to produce hydrogen there as well. So it would make a good testing ground

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Aug 09, 2021 2:50 pm

    Russian_Patriot_ wrote:New Orlans began to run in the Arkhangelsk region. ...

    I read this has New Orleans and got really confused for a second lol1



    flamming_python wrote:The ZES5K "Ermak" electric locomotive is getting a facelift
    .....
    No change of the technical specs or anything (it's not that old), just a cosmetic change to make it look cooler

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    .....

    It doesn't just looks cooler, it looks perfect

    Amazing what little aesthetic redesign can do

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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Mon Aug 09, 2021 2:56 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Russian_Patriot_ wrote:New Orlans began to run in the Arkhangelsk region. ...
    I read this has New Orleans and got really confused for a second lol1
    Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:58 pm

    The project of a double-decker train for TMH from "2050.LAB", which received the Red Dot Design Award
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    Post  Hole Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:06 pm

    Judging by the last pic they should call it "Snowpiercer". Very Happy

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:21 am

    As far as I like the project, I must tell you that Red Dot is something you buy Laughing
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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:37 am

    Guys, I'm going on a Russian Railways train right now in a third-class carriage. I still have a day and a half to go, so I can answer your questions
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    Post  limb Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:20 am

    How many sapsan high speed trains are there? Are there any plans to replace them with fully domestic models?
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:13 pm

    Russian_Patriot_ wrote:Guys, I'm going on a Russian Railways train right now in a third-class carriage. I still have a day and a half to go, so I can answer your questions

    That is a train journey the length of which few can really comprehend. One side of a continent to the other.
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    limb wrote:How many sapsan high speed trains are there? Are there any plans to replace  them with fully domestic  models?
    Now high-speed trains run only between Moscow and St. Petersburg. The problem of the HSR in Russia is the low population density, which is why the use of such an expensive infrastructure pays off only between such large cities as Moscow and St. Petersburg. And they want to create a Russian high-speed train by 2028. Now Sinara is building a factory in Verkhnyaya Pyshma for him
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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:20 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Russian_Patriot_ wrote:Guys, I'm going on a Russian Railways train right now in a third-class carriage. I still have a day and a half to go, so I can answer your questions

    That is a train journey the length of which few can really comprehend. One side of a continent to the other.
    I didn't go so far, just two days on the road, not a week)
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    Post  flamming_python Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:50 pm

    https://t.me/telerzd/623

    🏞 We are now testing the "virtual coupling" on the Ural section of the Transsib

    📌 The technology is being tested on the Yekaterinburg - Voinovka direction.

    🚂🚂 Thanks to special on-board devices and digital radio exchange, two or three freight trains move in concert one after the other. The interval between them is adjustable in the range from 12 to 6 minutes.

    🔗 "Virtual coupling" allows you to minimize and automatically maintain a safe distance between passing trains. This increases the throughput of key sections of the highways.

    This technology is already being used in the eastern part of the Transsib: the Bolshoi Lug - Slyudyanka and Yablonovaya - Lesnaya sections.



    Interesting tech. An automated, networked control system that links several freight trains into one virtual long one, controlling their speeds, breaks, etc.. automatically and instantaneously in sync with each other.

    I can easily see this system being developed further to decrease the minimum distance between such linked trains, and also to perhaps transition to an unmanned mode of operation for every train but the lead one; essentially the lead driver is the only one that's needed, and he almost functions as more of a systems engineer and human supervisor, than a driver

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