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    Post  George1 Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:21 am

    According to known data, to date, the following countries have agreed to provide Ukraine with the following numbers of Leopard 2 tanks:

    Germany - allocates 14 Leopard 2A6 tanks.

    Poland - allocates 14 tanks (probably in the Leopard 2A4 modification). Now Poland has 105 Leopard 2A5 tanks, 102 Leopard 2A4 tanks and 45 of the latter upgraded to the level of Leopard 2PL.

    Spain - 12 Leopard 2A4s are believed to have been allocated, with general plans to transfer all 53 Leopard 2A4s in storage. Now Spain has 219 Leopard 2E and 108 Leopard 2A4 tanks (the latter 53 are in storage).

    The Netherlands - they plan to buy out and transfer to Ukraine all 18 of their own former Leopard 2A6NL tanks, currently leased from Germany.

    Portugal - allocates four Leopard 2A6PO tanks, out of 37 available.

    Norway - allocates eight Leopard 2A4NO tanks, out of 53 available (16 of which are in storage).

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4649544.html

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    Post  Isos Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:27 am

    70 leopard 2. Yeah russians are done. They will loose. Thry can't face such overwhelming force.

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    Post  kvs Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:41 am

    The real joke is that NATzO proles and opinion makers believe this to be substantial assistance. If perhaps they sent over
    500 tanks, then it would look serious even though it would not save the Kiev regime's ass. But less than 100 is farcical.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:45 am

    Now focus ...
    They will deliver this crap in sorties, 12-15 pcs, each several weeks or so ...

    As I said : if there would have been any potential, both production/stock in NATO and human resources in Ukr, they would have set a corp size unit.
    Trained for a few months, with 300 tanks and assistance ... to be thrown somewhere where it matters.
    But they wont.
    What does it tell us?

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    Post  ludovicense Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:47 am

    I read, just now, that there will be another meeting in February again in Germany to discuss support for Kiev. The issue now is not what aid is approved, but what comes next. Although much hyped by the fact that for the first time Westerners are deploying their most sophisticated weapons, coldly analyzing what has been approved is not a significant help. Even more so if we consider the time lapse that these devices will arrive .... but looking forward to seeing the L2 burning ... attack


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    Post  Firebird Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:47 am

    I wonder why China is quiet on all of this?
    Esp given that Uncle Satan planned to divide Russia into 3 slave states, then target China.

    A friend of mine has a theory that China isn't so much Russia's friend, but actually bribing Biden and co to cause this shit.

    The argument is that a lot of the commercial elite of China and America overlap and are indeed part of the same "gang".
    Even if Xi might be on good terms with Putin etc.

    China could liberate Taiwan. Or China could provide mercs, or arms or whatever.
    America might then realise that escalation via a proxy war vs Russia is not a wise idea.

    Personally, I think Xi's China and America are v much undergoing an "economic divorce".
    BUT 2 things remain.
    1)Forces opposing Xi may exist in China and plan to re-ally with the American elite.
    2)China itself might like the idea of a weaker Russia.

    Perhaps America still thinks Russia and Europe will eventually joint up (probably decades in the future).
    America might then become the Pan Americas (N and Latin Am) and ally with China.
    Who knows?

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    Post  Firebird Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:51 am

    I wonder how many spies Russia has in Western Banderastan?
    Both human and electronic.
    There's only so many roads you can use to transport GATO weapons.
    There must surely be some pro Russians, even in Lvov. And some undercover professional intel officers who work for Russia?

    Cameras are cheap and tiny today. They could be put in trees, on roadsigns etc. Then there are drones. Because whilst the borders are big, they aren't THAT big. Russia could offer cash rewards for tracking information as well, even before it enters Banderastan.

    So I wonder how much of the GATO junk could be identified and tracked as it travels from Pooland and wherever?

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    Post  ludovicense Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:57 am

    I disagree that China wants Russia weak. China is silent... the various flights of military freighters between the two countries were not meant to bring toys. She helps Russia.
    Strong Russia serves as a buffer against American pressure. They know that the USA has them as a threat, because the West does not hide it.
    China acts according to its own interests and is very economically intertwined with the West. The economic losses would be colossal in the event of an abrupt rupture. That's why she balances herself in this conflict.

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    Post  Regular Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:03 am

    How many spies Russia has? Hard to tell, but I would imagine - a lot in important positions. Their reluctance to strike Ukrainian politicians should be a good sign.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:09 am

    From a comic book the Wagner boys are getting.

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #37 - Page 13 Photo111

    Give me a moment, I will try to translate it, so multiple editions incoming Laughing

    Russian native speakers, please correct my mistakes, would you? thumbsup

    Edit :

    1. Secure Russian interest everywhere and everytime.

    2. Honor of Russian soldier is the main thing.

    3. Fight not for money, but values. And the main value is victory.

    4. Don't get POW, and if that happens - die. But take as many opponents with you as possible.

    5. Respect your fallen fellow soldiers, and never disrespect their memories - you will meet them sooner or later.

    6. Our fate is to die in combat, not as an old man in bed.

    7. Help your fellow soldiers. Today you help him - tomorrow he will did the same.

    8. Be shy&secret. Dont speak about your profession. Keep the secrecy.

    9. Never be a criminal.

    10. Don't overdose on alcohol, both at war and home.

    11. Never use narcotics - at war and at home.

    12. Don't be a thug, don't steal and rape.

    13. Don't kill civilians.

    14. Secure your coin and remember, that you are a warrior of Wagner.

    I wonder why China is quiet on all of this?

    They are not.
    Cargo planes and trains are running in both directions 24/7.
    Chinese never speak. They do.


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    Post  Kiko Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:10 am

    The battles for Vuhledar showed the strategy of the Russian military leadership, 01.26.2023, by Evgeny Krutikov for VZGLYAD.
    The Russian marines entered the city of Ugledar and entrenched themselves on its southeastern outskirts. At the same time, along the entire line of contact, units of the RF Armed Forces are conducting successful offensive operations in several directions. Thus, the strategic scheme of the winter campaign of 2023 is already visible.

    Street fighting began in Ugledar, the severity of which is determined primarily by the geographical location and history of this town. Vuhledar is located on a hill and consists of four micro-districts of five-story buildings and does not have a block of private buildings at all, which is not typical for the Donbass. Based on this, the Armed Forces of Ukraine turned it into a large stronghold.

    The fact is that initially Vuhledar was built not as an independent settlement, but as a Yuzhny settlement within the city of Donetsk. There are large deposits of coal under the current Ugledar, it was planned to build seven large mines there and bring the population of the town to 100 thousand. But in the 1970s, it was decided that it would be more convenient to mine coal in the Kuzbass - and the construction of the Yuzhnodonetsk coal massif was frozen. By this time, these four quarters of five-story buildings had been built and about nine thousand people had settled in them.

    The natural approach to Vuhledar was a small dacha community southeast of the town across the road to Donetsk. It was through him that the Marines of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation entered Vugledar. And parts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine concentrated on the defense of the western and southwestern outskirts of the city from the side of the village of Pavlovka, for which there have been fierce battles recently.

    Parts of the 72nd Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine "Black Cossacks" were divided: some retreated to the First Mine, which, together with the waste heap, was turned into a fortified area. Others remained within the boundaries of Ugledar. At night, reinforcements of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, including tanks, began to arrive there. But at the same time, the Russian marines began to move to Ugledar just from Pavlovka to the western outskirts, but not by storming, but simply covering the city. Ukrainian tanks turned on them.

    At night, the Marines continued their operations in Ugledar, entered the territory of the pumping station and entrenched themselves on 13 Paratroopers Street in the southeast of the city. As of the middle of January 26, in this microdistrict, in the direction of the building of the city police department and lyceum No. 1, shooting battles are going on.

    It is still premature to talk about taking Ugledar. However, just a week ago, the very idea of ​​occupying this small but important settlement seemed very controversial. Ugledar is important not only as a high position in the steppe and a stronghold with access to the north to Kurakhovo and Marinka. His occupation moves the front away from the railway, which is now not in use due to the danger of shelling. Namely, this road is an important component of the land corridor to Zaporozhye and Crimea.

    Simultaneously with the rapid advance to Vuhledar in the Zaporozhye (southern) direction, Russian troops squeezed out the Armed Forces of Ukraine from several fortified areas in the steppe within five days and occupied the former "gray zone". Progress was noted in the direction of Huliaipole and Orekhov, two relatively large settlements on which the entire Ukrainian defense of the southern direction relies. This again necessitated the Armed Forces of Ukraine to bring reserves into battle.

    At night and in the first half of the day on January 26, there was a powerful artillery preparation near Orekhovo. Russian assault groups continued sorties in the direction of individual Ukrainian fortifications, which again forced the command of the Zaporozhye group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to redirect reserves near Orekhov.

    At the same time, Russian troops drove the Armed Forces of Ukraine out of Kamenskoye, a small settlement on the banks of the Kakhovka reservoir, that is, in fact, on the banks of the Dnieper.

    Kamianske is a direct road to Zaporozhye, which, of course, is far away, but symbolic. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation did not enter Kamenka itself and did not begin to clean it up, but the Armed Forces of Ukraine left this very advantageous position in the swampy area. At night, a detachment of special forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine "Gepard" was sent near Kamenskoye - the last operational reserve in this direction.

    It is also worth adding the gradual advance in Maryinka, where only a few high-rise buildings on the western outskirts of the village remain under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. During the day, the Armed Forces of Ukraine managed to repulse several attacks of the “old”, veteran units of the 1st Army Corps of the DPR, but as a result of heavy losses, some units of the 76th Air Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine began to leave their positions.

    All this movement to the south cannot be called an offensive. Rather, it is reconnaissance in force, which turned out to be extremely successful. Its main result: the Armed Forces of Ukraine lost the equipped positions of several defense lines in the steppe, the fortified areas were destroyed by artillery and taken by storm.

    In the same period, the advance of Russian units continued in the Central Donetsk direction, which became possible after the occupation of Soledar. The front behind Soledar swells in the form of a ball in three directions: to Seversk, where we have already reached Razdolovka, to the west to Vasyukovka and to the south to Artemovsk (Bakhmut).

    And on the northern outskirts of Artemovsk, battles are going on for the tactically important villages of Krasnaya Gora and Paraskovievka (we have already entered them), which not only surround Artemovsk, but also close the route to Slavyansk - one of the three through which the APU units in the city are being supplied. In Artemovsk itself, street battles are going on with the advance of the Wagner assault groups in the area of ​​​​the meat processing plant (east) and in the southern part - in the so-called Sobachevka.

    To the south-west of the city, after the occupation of Kleshcheevka, the assault groups advanced along the city and to the north-west in the direction of the village of Krasnoe (Ivanovskoye). Already, the road leading from the city through Krasnoye to Konstantinovka is under fire control. This is the second supply route for the Ukrainian garrison of Artemovsk, but it is still possible to drive along it. But the third route - to Chasov Yar - is completely free so far. The occupation of Krasny will just allow it to be brought under control, which will mean the complete encirclement of Artemovsk.

    All this does not mean that a decisive advance in these sectors will take place immediately or tomorrow. However, this already seems inevitable. Reports are circulating that the Americans are already recommending that Kyiv leave Artemovsk, keep several numbered brigades and finally gain a foothold in the Slavyansk-Kramatorsk-Konstantinovka agglomeration. This is considered a more advantageous position, especially after the defensive line Artemovsk - Soledar - Seversk was broken through. But this is unacceptable for Zelensky for political reasons.

    Another motive for trying to permanently hold the UAF in intermediate or already completely failed positions is the expected supply of Western weapons, which will not happen physically earlier than by autumn. The Armed Forces of Ukraine need to approach these deliveries on some reliable positions. The possible encirclement in Artemovsk of several numbered brigades and their inevitable death after that does not stop anyone in Kyiv.

    The general plan of the winter-spring campaign of the Russian Armed Forces began to be seen strategically. To all appearances, it will consist of such a series of offensive actions on separate and even far-flung sectors of the front.

    This leads to panic and throwing the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The thing is that the Armed Forces of Ukraine now do not have time to maneuver reserves (which they did before), even if they have information about the impending movement of Russian units. In addition, these reserves, including the newly formed brigades in the rear, are being eroded. Kyiv cannot determine which hole (Ugledar, Gulyaipole, Orekhov or Kamenskoye) to close first. The ghostly opportunity to form a “fist” to organize a politically necessary counter-offensive disappears.

    The only alternative for the Armed Forces of Ukraine last week was attempts to attack Kremennaya with small forces, which only had the opposite effect: Russian units effectively repel these attacks and even there they occupied part of the former “gray” zone. Thus, today one can see the prospect of not only tactical success, but also a strategic approach. A weakening of the pace of promotion for some force majeure reasons can harm him. But it can be stated that today the operational initiative has passed to the Russian Armed Forces.

    https://vz.ru/society/2023/1/26/1196655.html

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    Post  ludovicense Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:18 am

    AZ 🛰🌏🌍🌎
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    🇺🇸Mad:🇺🇦🇷🇺Pentagon announced the absence of the necessary tanks for Ukraine in US warehouses

    ..............................

    There are several sources stating this. Good if it's true or Germans will go through yet another humiliation: deceived by their main ally.

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    Post  pavi Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:25 am

    "I wonder why China is quiet on all of this?"

    Firebird, please, look at the map. China is actually quite easy to put on its knees without friendly Russia. China is very dependent on maritime logistics, if there is no possibility to get oil and minerals from Russia. Letting Russia down now would expose China maritime isolation and combined this with hostile Russia, or its leftover, would make China just a mouthpiece for west. Russia and China are allies, because both need each other, eventhough they wouldn't agree everything.
    Chinese culture is oldest which have survived. It is 5000 year old. Their policy has been very restraint for everything. They act quietly and only when needed. Maybe reading Tsun zu will help to understand their mindset. It totally differs ours.

    This is out of topic. Moderator, please feel free to put these discussions somewhere else.

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    Post  Isos Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:43 am

    @GarryB you are wrong when you say M1 was never produced. They built more than 3000 M1 and then switch for m1a1 and then m1a2.

    If they have still m1 in storage they will send those. Or at best m1a1.
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    Post  DerWolf Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:48 am

    USA is sending the most modern version of abrams.
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    Post  Hole Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:56 am

    Export version. Without Pringle holders and other extras.
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    Propably on that level
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    Looking pretty ugly for Seversk, too.

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    Post  caveat emptor Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:15 pm

    @Isos
    Pentagon spokesperson already said that they will be sending M1A2 version.

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    Post  mnztr Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:21 pm

    Scholtz took it up the ass again as Americas bitch. He demanded they send M1.. and they agreed..in 12-18 months. Honestly calling him a liverwurst is an insult to liverwursts. He is the WORST liverwurst. lol.

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    Post  caveat emptor Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:44 pm

    Video from this summer or early fall that shows interceptions of HIMARS missiles by Pantsir:
    https://t.me/sashakots/38263

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:51 pm

    @rybar_en
    Russian Armed Forces mass missile strike on critical Ukrainian energy infrastructure on January 26 – what we know as of 14:00 local time:
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    Beautiful. A Pantsir SAM system repelling a HIMARS attack. 12 downed missiles. The video is a ready-made Pantsir advert.
    [via ColonelCassad]

    (For everyone without telegram)

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    Post  Erk Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:07 pm

    GaryB wrote:

    High Explosive contains fuel and also oxygen and needs just a trigger to detonate it... by volume and weight it needs about four parts oxygen or oxygen releasing material per one part of fuel, so 100kgs of HE is 80kgs of oxygen and 20kgs of fuel that burns that oxygen at supersonic speeds.

    Thermobaric rounds use only fuel and no oxygen creating material so a 100kg thermobaric round will be 95kgs of fuel and perhaps 5kgs of spreading explosive to vapourise and spread the fuel... so essentially a 100kg Thermobaric bomb explodes like a 500kg HE bomb effectively where 400kg of air is from the environment around the target.

    But nothing to do with plutonium or uranium.

    It tends to burn hotter and longer than HE but its peak velocity is not as high so it does not shatter many targets like HE would.

    Where does the warhead fragments enter the picture?
    eg. in MH17 they found some recognizable shaped, fragments from the SAM in the wreckage.
    What types of warheads deliberately contain additional fragments, vs just HE?

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    Post  Hole Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:13 pm

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    T-72B3M (2022)

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    Post  Hole Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:14 pm

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    Rubber model used as decoy.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:14 pm

    If NATO uranium ammunition supplied and dignity is used, the serious and most difficult consequences must have!

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