Russian special military operation in Ukraine #37

@200_zoka
VDV on Kremenaya front

Don't know if this video of BMPT was posted before.


What hell for infantry in the forest looks like from above. Nightmarish. Literally just cutting down trees and creates a passage.

Fairly sure when Tanks destroyed , any amount of DU captured or carried , can be returned ( after DU crushed into powder and aerosolized ) to near border of origin country in international airspace with flowers , to disperse by wind in high altitude . Gone with the wind , as they say !

The main aim for Russia right now will be to establish air superiority over western Ukraine and interdict arms shipments from the West.

I think after a year of war, including hundreds of drone and cruise missile attacks, we will start to see regular use of Russian strike craft using JDAM equivalents to destroy anything that comes over the border, or at least anything that crosses the Dnipro.

Couldn't Russia just temporarily or permanently fry the electronics of an AWACS and a Global Hawk.

And R-37 would do it... using EW would give them an opportunity to work out what you did and how and therefore make such a capability less effective later on when you might want to use it for real again.

70 leopard 2. Yeah russians are done. They will loose. Thry can't face such overwhelming force.

Their real problem is that they wont all arrive at once and if they keep them back in the rear or around Kiev some local sympathiser is going to reveal their location or intel will find them and swat them before they get anywhere near the front line.

A friend of mine has a theory that China isn't so much Russia's friend, but actually bribing Biden and co to cause this shit.

What is China supposed to do... open a second front by invading South Korea?

China has been buying all the gas that Russia used to send to Europe... that on its own means regular income for Russia and no major problems shutting down gas fields.

Russian forces are slowly advancing and more importantly are destroying the Ukrainian forces they come across... Kiev was talking about a big offensive to take back the ground lost and then attack Crimea but it is looking more and more unlikely because they are running out of manpower and equipment... losing thousands of tanks including lots more donated by eastern european countries, suggests the west sending 100 more vehicles it not going to change very much at all.

The argument is that a lot of the commercial elite of China and America overlap and are indeed part of the same "gang".
Even if Xi might be on good terms with Putin etc

The argument very much suits the west to divide and conquer and prevent an alliance between Russia and anyone else.

China could liberate Taiwan. Or China could provide mercs, or arms or whatever.

The only people who think Russia is running out of weapons or men are your enemies... what sort of light does that put your friends claims?

Honestly... think about it for a bit... China invading Taiwan is what the west has been pushing for, but right now the problems in the Ukraine are taxing the west to the point where they are now sending stuff they said they would never send because of the cost and the likely lack of return on investment.

It is the west that is desperate, China can just keep doing what it is doing, what they are doing is helping Russia just fine.

America might then realise that escalation via a proxy war vs Russia is not a wise idea.

They don't give a ****... they think Putin is stupid and weak and Russia is poor and about to run out of everything any minute now.... now.... now... now... and they have been thinking that for almost a year... because real western intelligence does not exist they are fucking idiots who don't know what they are doing.

1)Forces opposing Xi may exist in China and plan to re-ally with the American elite.
2)China itself might like the idea of a weaker Russia.

China understands it is in the same boat as Russia and America is telling them to push Russia out, but they know that if they do then they are next... because that boat is getting improvements that are making it unsinkable... ironically by adding BRICS (Bricks).

Perhaps America still thinks Russia and Europe will eventually joint up (probably decades in the future).

That is over now with Germany Okaying tanks... and much of the rest of Europe are Americas bitches and will do what they are told.

America might then become the Pan Americas (N and Latin Am) and ally with China.

America does not have allies... they are fucking the EU every which way they can to make them buy US weapons and US energy and pretty soon most industry in Europe will be moving to the US.... which leaves the EU as a consumer of US produced goods... perhaps they will wake up then... but poor and weak and without any capacity to think and act on their own... why should Russia care?

China does not want to walk that path... even India is realising the risks... America wants to bring its industry out of China but it wants it to move to the US so India has nothing to gain by sucking up to them because they wont do to India what they did with investments and production in China... that was a serious mistake they wont repeat.

Russia and China are allies, because both need each other, eventhough they wouldn't agree everything.

The key word is allies... they are real allies in the sense that one is not the master and the other is not the colonial slave... Russia would not do to China what the US is doing to the EU and China would not do to Russia what the US is doing to the EU.

China does not benefit from a broken Russia and Russia does not benefit from a broken China.

They don't have to agree on everything.

They are independent states that respect each other... a very alien concept for the west.

Listen to the EU rhetoric of the last 20 years and they will talk about going in to talks with Russia from a position of power... with leverage... the EU confuse diplomacy with a hostage negotiation because that is what diplomacy in the west has become... I have leverage and you will do this or else I will use my leverage.

@GarryB you are wrong when you say M1 was never produced. They built more than 3000 M1 and then switch for m1a1 and then m1a2.

If they have still m1 in storage they will send those. Or at best m1a1.

They have 3,000 Abrams tanks armed with 105mm British rifled tank guns?

Are you sure?

Where does the warhead fragments enter the picture?

Thermobaric warheads are blast warheads and need to disperse around the target before the fuel is detonated so fragmentation is not an option.

Normal HE can have ready made fragments packed around the warhead so when the warhead explodes they spread the fragments around at high speed, but for a thermobaric warhead to detonate it needs to spread the fuel around in the air to get a good fuel air mix before the two are detonated together.

eg. in MH17 they found some recognizable shaped, fragments from the SAM in the wreckage.
What types of warheads deliberately contain additional fragments, vs just HE?

A blast wave is a powerful thing but it needs air and dense air works better than thin air.

A SAM wont have a Thermobaric warhead because if it is intercepting a target at 25 km altitude the air is very thin which makes HE blast waves rather weak... even a 50kg HE warhead contains only 50kgs of gas... as it expands in three dimensions by the time the explosion is 10m across the gas is already spread rather thin and wont have the effect it would have at sea level.

Therefore SAMs like BUK and S-300 reduce the HE power of the warhead by reducing the HE content and replacing it with preshaped metal fragments designed to do max damage.

A high altitude detonation of a HE blast warhead is weak, but a HE Frag warhead is even more powerful because the fragments are moving through thinner air so they travel further and retain their speed better and therefore the damage they do is over a much greater area.

The warheads on the S-300 has multiple fuses so in the last milisecond of the intercept the missile can determine where the target actually is and detonate the appropriate detonator to direct the fragments at the target causing max damage.

Not practical with Thermobaric, but thermobaric are good for removing the oxygen from places like bunkers and tunnels.

RF Iskander missile strikes Ukrainian S-300 battery near Kharkov

Western media will claim it is a tactical nuke....

Russia does not have any first model of any tank left... if they were operational then they got upgrades and improvements while in storage or when taken out of storage...

It would very much surprise me if they had any base model unupgraded M1 tanks... after taking them to the gulf or having them based around the place I would think they would already be upgraded or used up or sold to allies.

ngl the Baerbock being chief WEF dominatrix thing is pretty hot. Still wont eat the bugs tho.

So A. Mercuris quoted 6.5M/year as the rate of Russian artillery ammo production. I would assume that is all factories running 1 shift in peacetime. So if if they run 3 shifts that would be 19.5m rounds a year. That is a SHITLOAD.

They have 3,000 Abrams tanks armed with 105mm British rifled tank guns?
Are you sure?

The number is more or less correct.
Base M1 was later upgraded along with new produced. In total, they have made some 8000 tanks of all mods.
The catch is that there is no new M1 production line. All "new" M1 are made out of the stored, at a ridiculous slow rate and price.

The French really took Burkina Faso personally Razz

And Algeria. And CAR. And Mali. And Marocco.

Its interesting to see that LPR/DPR forces now being officially a part of the Russian armed forces are being re-equiped with more modern tanks. I haven't seen any footage of them using their T64s in a while.

Video from other side talking about Wagner


Keep your BS meter on high alert, even if the guy is praising them

https://files.catbox.moe/v8y7ez.mp4
It looks like a guided missile munition of the Tornado system. Hello to everyone who said that guided missiles of Russian MLRS are not used in combat operations in Ukraine.

I didn't see if this quote was already here, but I will repeat:

- The air defense missiles that you produce, we produce more than three times a year than in the United States. And in general, our defense industry produces air defense missiles for various purposes in a year about as much as all military-industrial enterprises in the world produce.

Vladimir Putin during a conversation with workers of the Obukhov plant in St. Petersburg

Ugledar from space


Odessa yesterday, successful interception of a cruise missile by some building.