Russian special military operation in Ukraine #37

Locate the tank. 

Alright I am curious, what air defenses is Russia using in this operation, 

Strela-10, Osa-AKM, Tor (different versions), Buk (M1, M1-1, M2, M3), S-300V/V4...
Don´t know if Tunguskas are still around. There were a few pics at the beginning of the SMO.

limb wrote:Where is Russia on this chart then, big brain?

Are you aware that this chart means robots in the meaning of robots and not machines??? Robots are necessary in the automotive industry, which is why the countries that are also strong in this industry are very well represented. Of course, robots are also needed for household appliances, consumer electronics, etc. Russia is not particularly well represented in these areas.

And you are probably also aware by now that robots are seldom used in shipbuilding, aircraft construction and in the arms industry? Even the F-35 is handmade!

By the way...only mentioned in passing...Russia is the 6th largest manufacturer of service robots.

I think i will become a religious person again.

T-72B1 tanks, modernised close to the T-72B3M (2022) standard. Fitted with a 1PN96MT-02 thermal sight, according to sources.

@Sprinter00000
Meanwhile in Peru.
Protesters at a rally in the Peruvian capital Lima are chanting:
"Russia, we want your invasion."
The rally took place against the puppet pro-American regime.

Oh guys but limp learned on his "slavic TV" that western robots are goodder then installed in Russia. Axiom no need for  a proof.

Limb so tell me how many supersonic jets or space rockets of nuclear subs do such industrial superpowers like Czech Republic, Danemark or Grand Duchesse of Luxembourg produce with their robots?

Chinese industrial robots and machinery is superior to russian and the west.

Limb so tell me how many supersonic jets or space rockets of nuclear subs do such industrial superpowers like Czech Republic, Danemark or Grand Duchesse of Luxembourg produce with their robots?

Each of these countries is a vassal doing aspecifc task. you cant count a few. You have to count all of the west, since its entire economy is geared against russia's.

Also lmao at comparing the largest country in the world with the czech republic. How about compare it to Japan, China, the US?

How do you know?
Do you live in China, follow Chinese news media, and know how to read Chinese?

I have several chinese friends who are either maoists or natioanlists.

Each of these countries is a vassal doing aspecifc task. you cant count a few. You have to count all of the west, since its entire economy is geared against russia's.

they they are in poor shape since they are not able to win ... one year and no effect. So powerful yet so powerless.

Also lmao at comparing the largest country in the world with the czech republic. How about compare it to Japan, China, the US?

As for jets Russia is on pair with the US. Japan is second to none with this regard. China pretty quick is catching up but wait they are Russia ally. So US, all-lies and doggies like eastern European countries are doing their best yet not winning ... and their propaganda economy is not getting better in the west.

A report is circulating on the internet, allegedly attributed to Israel's military intelligence services, dealing with alleged Russian and Ukrainian military losses in the ongoing war.

@Belisarius

you got more info, If I am at a pro-Ukraine forum and I post this I will get laughed at saying i typed that up on microsoft word.

Source: Russian air defense in the NVO zone will be reinforced with Pantsir-SM complexes

https://ria.ru/20230128/pantsir-sm-1848044363.html

MOSCOW, January 28 - RIA Novosti. The Russian air defense system (air defense), created in the special operation zone in Ukraine, will soon be reinforced with the latest Pantsir-SM systems, an informed source told RIA Novosti.

“It is planned that in the near future a batch of Pantsir anti-aircraft missile and gun systems in the latest modification, Pantsir-SM, will be sent to the zone of the NMD to strengthen the air defense system. Such systems will be able to hit drones and rockets launched by Ukrainian fighters, including shells from the American MLRS HIMARS," the source said.


According to open sources, Pantsir-SM received a new target detection radar with a phased antenna array, which has improved characteristics in terms of detection range of air targets, noise immunity and resolution. The complex also received a new multifunctional target tracking and missile guidance radar.
Now the complex sees small targets at a distance of up to 75 kilometers, and when using new anti-aircraft guided missiles with hypersonic speed, the range of interception of air targets increases to 40 kilometers - twice as much compared to the previous version of the system.
In particular, as Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu reported in August 2022 , the maximum range for the destruction of drones by the new Pantsir has been increased by 30%. The flight altitude of targets to be hit for Pantsir-SM is 18 kilometers.
The new complex has two options: on a wheelbase and a version for the Ground Forces on a tracked chassi

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Panzers are coming back to Russian lands.
Send in the T-34s.

Russians have good AP ammo but the newest models...are they wide spread? the problem when western tanks arrive old type of AP might be not good enough.

All of their anti tank ammo can penetrate western tanks from the side and rear... and when they turn their turrets you can get them from any angle because their turret bustles are enormous targets.

As for the tanks, I have already said this is nothing but a face saving gesture by Biden, We could very easily pack up 30 Abrams and ship em out in a day but we are in no hurry because we know its a pointless act.

One US politician even suggested lying... he suggested that the US promised Germany they would send Abrams tanks and once Germany allowed their tanks to be sent by other users and sent their own tanks for the US to send one tank or no tanks at all... ie trick the Germans... and I ask you... would Germany even care if they did get tricked again by the US... they seem to enjoy it.

so trying to this has a reason for "America cannot produce shit" is silly.

Shit is their biggest export earner.... Joking... but not joking... propaganda is shit...

Hollywood and western media are the production facilities... and they can pump it out at eye watering rates.

How would russia on war footing hope to compete with 0 domestic competency and proliferation in roboticized production lines for aircraft, jet engines, automobiles, etc compared to the west in war footing?

Ironically if Russia had to go on a real war footing it would likely end up using nuclear weapons, because the only opponents it would need to go on a real war footing to fight also have nuclear weapons and striking first offers the best chances in terms of survival.

Proove to me that lacking industrial robots is totally a nothingburger.

The west uses robots so they can have factory workers who don't join unions, don't need healthcare, and will work 24/7 without breaks.

Their production levels of weapons and the frequency they run out of missiles and bombs and ammo the last 30 years in every conflict they got involved with shows they are incompetent idiots who will cut funding for proper production the instant the conflict they started ends so next conflict they have the same problems... but it will be someone elses problem next time so they don't care.

People who masturvate about supposed russian industrial perfection are the same types who masturbate about western tanks tirnong the tide

Facts are facts... the Russians now have enough troops to do the job and are doing it making steady progress in the most dangerous type of war... urban warfare against a modern dug in enemy . They are not just chipping away at their forces and pushing them back, they are also killing them in large numbers... men that the enemy are struggling to replace. Eventually their line is going to break and there is going to be a rout... and about that time 10 Challengers are going to arrive... big deal...

When the Orc army collapses Zelensky will rush to the negotiating table but will Russia even bother... keep advancing to take the Black Sea coast and share a border with Moldova and then we can start talking about new elections in what is left of the Ukraine and what sort of new constitution they are allowed to have...

Tanks and fighter planes will have negligible effect... they will get blown up or shot down... many of them in transit...

Crickets are also speciality rural foods in certain countries. I tried it once, the meat tastes similar to shrimp.

In many ways a cricket is a land shrimp.

But then in some countries they eat horses and cats and dogs... they are just meat.

While across the pond, I'm not sure if the US is even manufacturing new M1 Abrams anymore, or is just modernizing older ones

Saw a report stating that the Abrams tanks the US is sending to Kiev will be production vehicles with production lines busy with Polish and some other countries orders... so they will likely be export spec tanks without the DU bits.

If NATO actually manages to move over to war economy mode and puts a lid on their societies while doing so,

The point is that a war economy is going to feel like a Covid lockdown again in the west with funding going to things that don't help their economies at all...

Alright I am curious, what air defenses is Russia using in this operation, obviously MANPADS is one of them when they were used to shoot down a su-24 8kms away.

Standard army air defence systems are Tunguska/Pantsir, TOR, and BUK and S-300V4... as well as MANPADS.

I think i will become a religious person again.

Orthodox crows?

Chinese industrial robots and machinery is superior to russian and the west.

Your opinion?

Based on what exactly?

Also lmao at comparing the largest country in the world with the czech republic. How about compare it to Japan, China, the US?

But the largest country in the world has the economy of Texas so why not compare?

Thanks for letting the Russians know in advance, I guess.

The rooks flying in numbers over a city or population is a very bad omen.

The rooks flying in numbers over a city or population is a very bad omen.

... nickname for Su-25 is Rook...

How about this for an image... Su-25 launching an AS-10 Karen missile (Kh-25ML).

“Chinese industrial robots and machinery is superior to russian and the west.“

Robotics and AI field is very strong in China and they have to implement them practically due to population decline. Good thing is that as FP mentioned, Chinese are rather willing to trade knowhow and technology with Russia than US and Europe. I would love to see Chinese military gear used by Russia, holosons, drones, loitering munitions. Something Russia doesn’t produce domestically and if they do, not on the same scale