Russian special military operation in Ukraine #37

Yeah about 20 thousand Russian dead and 60,000 wounded is probably about right. Ukraine? I'd put the number at 200,000 dead and 600,000 wounded. This is why we aren't seeing a sweeping GPW type pincer. WWI Verdun style offenses that chew up Ukrainian forces at minimal costs to them. 10 to 1 killed and wounded ratio is something that even RTN would be smart enough to keep doing. By the way RTN, your newest wonderwaffle is not a game changer, I mean with syrup its part of a complete breakfast but its not going to do anything except be used against civilians.

It's funny.
Russia was on the edge of collapse, with civil war at its borders.
People were starving. Literally.
Armed forces were giving their last breath.
Yet they considered that any kind of help for you, Serbs, is valid.
Even if it is moral only, like turning around the plane with Primakov on board en route to the US.
After 25 years, you whine about how the help was pathetic and irrelevant.
Oh, please do more.
Next time Russkie will surely feel a need to save your unfaithful arses when Albanians will come to make your brown holes wider.

Yeah about 20 thousand Russian dead and 60,000 wounded is probably about right. Ukraine? I'd put the number at 200,000 dead and 600,000 wounded. This is why we aren't seeing a sweeping GPW type pincer. WWI Verdun style offenses that chew up Ukrainian forces at minimal costs to them. 10 to 1 killed and wounded ratio is something that even RTN would be smart enough to keep doing. By the way RTN, your newest wonderwaffle is not a game changer, I mean with syrup its part of a complete breakfast but its not going to do anything except be used against civilians.

The number for Russkie is about correct, but the number for Ukrs is not.
The latest call from the Ukro side - quite official - was 250+ kilo.
Stratfor "calculated" it above 300k.
There is really a reason why they hunt males on the streets.
The Internet is full of films with that. FULL.

So from the perspective, we tale close to 1 mln KIA/WIA/MIA/POW in some 15-18 mln population at most.
Clashed with the number that hardly differs from the number of car accident victims number.

That is why we face a crazy level of propaganda. Crazy even for this, particularly crazy, war. People in the west REALLY are being fed with stories that Ukrs didn'r made a mobilisation yet, while the Mordor horde is at the brink of extinction. This madness continuous.

Crimea river

Just for the record.
I don't care much about your national pride being hurt a few lines up.
It doesn't work for me.

Yeah for Ukraine it should be around 300000 dead and probably at least another 100000 heavily injured (and unable to ever being back in active service) or permanently missing. Total number of injured probably much higher than that

The interesting part is that those are not Russkie numbers.
All are given - with a different context - either by the Ukrs or sponsors.

Yeah, Stratfor is a garbage - yet they claim 300+k
Those are open source confirmed one by one records that put the number well above 130k now.
Ukro stats about 32k MIA (dead in real).
200k given by the Brits.
250k given by Zaluzhny lately.

All are not close to the Russkie-provided data. What makes me think, that they are objectively afraid to give the real numbers?I mean the Russkies? Melodramatic "brotherly nation" thing?

One million for KIA, Wounded etc? and 18m pop now?.

That is indeed laughable numbers.

No way such numbers are in anyways realistic and there is no evidence of that at all

Can you both go and be stupid in some other place, please?
You seem to be the same developed in basic math.
Adults talking who know how to add and adjust up to 50.

"Can you both go and be stupid in some other place, please?
You seem to be the same developed in basic math.
Adults talking who know how to add and adjust up to 50."

You can insult all you want that doesn't change the fact your comment was full of shit.

Even if I take Mcgreggor's estimates has fact which he has more friends who know far more than you last week the number was 22-25m

but it suddenly dropped 4M in a week if we go by the lowest estimate....that's math

Ukraine hasn't suffered that much KIA and what not, wounded in action is also very subjective as being wounded doesn't mean you are auto out of the fight, depends how bad the injury is.

So by all means explain to me how 4 million people left ukraine without anyone reporting such a massive refugee column?

"200k given by the Brits.
250k given by Zaluzhny lately"

Yeah a lie here, first off show me where the brits said that, you would have to be referring to the BBC which did claim this number.

Zaluzhny was also quoting the BBC estimates,

So you are lying here in such a cheap way trying to take multiple different statements about the same numbers and add them together to get the number you claim.

Dude seriously that's just silly logic.

I could believe about 300k, but 1M lol go home your drunk

There are still mentally retarded people out there that still follow Oryx statistics about Russia losing 3 times more armored vehicles than Ukraine. https://militaryland.net/maps/deployment-map/ so with those Oryx statistics and them having a bigger force of units Wagner should be the ones getting pushed back not the other way around. I give up.

You are understating the real influx of propaganda.
We haven't ever had war like that, from the intense, one-sided propaganda perspective.
Again those are not my words, but a war correspondent who carried all the wars in the last 50 years.
Those people are soaked - functionally soaked - with this shit.
Open source investigations, with names, dates, details, one by one - listed much more than 130k dead Ukro soldiers.
Official Ukro documents put a number of MIA above 32k.
The number of POWs was declared at +/- 20k level.

Brits officially claimed 200k KIA back in Autumn of 2022.
Official Ukro documents were claiming 152+ end of 2022.
Stratfor is stating 300+
Latest leakage of the Ukro official reports are 252k

The population numbers are clear.
Coming from official UNHCR data.
All legit, confirmed, and - relatively - objective.
The picture is shocking and devastating to the level I hardly believe - but ...

Yet, you have people who are trying to obliterate the numbers that are public.
I have no idea why, what is the clue?
And honestly, I give a shit about that.

Show me the link where the brits claimed this then and I'll tell you right now if its some no name suit with no evidence to support it, don't even bother because that's just clearly horse shit statement.

and exactly people are CLAIMINH these numbers but they all claiming from the start to NOW. You just add together all their estimates to get this bogus number.

You are lying trying to say "well x claimed this, y claimed this, z claimed this. So thats makes the number this"

Reading you is a pleasure equivalent to watching a vomiting cow. So let me pass by.
Zoo awaits.

The thing is that they don't have ammo for them
Objectively folks ...
let's contribute, shall we?
Who is using L7 anymore?
I mean the stock ...
Slovenians? Yeah, they had some.
How many stocks can have a 2mln country?
Germans?
After 40 years of not using the caliber?
Maybe they have some Panzershreck along?
Jews? Hell yeah ... but seems that they are kind of lack optimist toward supplying the Bandera regime ... Wonder why

The L-1 has armour equivalent of a light tank. It is a joke to send it to support the Kiev regime.