Russian special military operation in Ukraine #43

Arkanghelsk wrote: Local media report an explosion in the FSB building in Belgorod.

Nothing to see here folks,

The cheerleaders have taken over the chat - nothing to see here

Arkanghelsk wrote: Local media report an explosion in the FSB building in Belgorod.

Nothing to see here folks,

The cheerleaders have taken over the chat - nothing to see here

Russian MoD has barely taken a village since the collapses 7 months ago on the Kherson and Kharkov fronts.

flamming_python wrote:
How are they supposed to prevent it?



Only incompetence I see perhaps is not evacuating these settlements earlier when the danger of raids first became apparent.

flamming_python wrote:

Reason why the results speak for themselves is because you're making them up, playing on lack of info or estimates to create fantasies

They had a skeleton crew in the Kharkov region
No-one donated anywhere near 600+ vehicles, not even the Ukrs have come up with such a number
Never saw any video from Vugledar that suggested that anymore than a company-sized force attempted to advance towards it. And certainly not 22 times
No-one has been selling gear, fuel and ammo on the black market

Belisarius wrote:

As far as I know, the Russian formation responsible for taking Artyomovsk and Soledar is under the command of the Russian MoD and had huge support from other units also controlled by the Russian MoD. So, unless one believes that the Wagner Group acts alone and without any help or coordination with the Russian command, which is not the case, the Russian MoD done much more than "barely taken a village" in these last 7 months.

sundoesntrise wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

Reason why the results speak for themselves is because you're making them up, playing on lack of info or estimates to create fantasies

They had a skeleton crew in the Kharkov region
No-one donated anywhere near 600+ vehicles, not even the Ukrs have come up with such a number
Never saw any video from Vugledar that suggested that anymore than a company-sized force attempted to advance towards it. And certainly not 22 times
No-one has been selling gear, fuel and ammo on the black market

If anyone shouldn't have the nerve about 'making stuff up' it's you, Chief CopeLord and full time Kremlin Propagandist.

One by one.

* 360 tonnes of kerosene aviation fuel was stolen in Irkutsk by 6 airforce officer, leading to critical fuel shortages on the front in the early days of the 'SMO'. Each of them got off with a 627 USD fine or less.

https://tayga.info/181236

*Ukraine claims to have captured more than 1500 vehicles in the Kharkov offensive - 600+ which have been visually confirmed (at least 131 tanks). So again you're talking out of your pooper with your claims that 'Ukrainians don't claim this'.

https://kyivindependent.com/ukrainians-capture-russian-ammo-weapons-vehicles-in-kharkiv-oblast/

*Obviously the statement that the Russian 55th tried to storm Vuhledar 22 times is a metaphor. Nevertheless they drove over open terrain without air support or arty cover at least 5-6 times each time suffering horrendous losses whilst unable to gain any ground or achieve any losses amongst the enemy.

There are frigging videos of it. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

Your cope mechanisms are getting old.

mnztr wrote:

even if all true the Russians can screw up about 10x more then Ukraine and still win.

Backman wrote:Did I just see a retard I blocked post a link to the Kiev Independent for use in an argument ?  

SonOfaBitch wrote:
You are stuck in your video simulator. I suggest you take off the Virtual Reality goggles and lay off the Kremlin dope for away. It's literally F up after F up at this point.

Nevertheless they drove over open terrain without air support or arty cover at least 5-6 times each time suffering horrendous losses whilst unable to gain any ground or achieve any losses amongst the enemy.

suffering horrendous losses

Wagner can go places and do things the regular military can't due to its ambigue legal status.

And the Russian MoD is even to blame for messing up the supply chain issues

Belisarius wrote:

Nevertheless they drove over open terrain without air support or arty cover at least 5-6 times each time suffering horrendous losses whilst unable to gain any ground or achieve any losses amongst the enemy.

This is Ugledar in late January/early February:



If the Russians advanced without air support or artillery cover, then who bombed Ugledar to shit?
And if you believe that the Russians leaving this city like this cause no loss among the enemy then the only Chief CopeLord here is you.

suffering horrendous losses

Allegations made that the 155th Marine Brigade was destroyed or suffered
horrific losses are nothing more than Ukrainian drivel and propaganda as the 155th Marine Brigade is still actively fighting in this sector and a steady trickle of combat footage continues to emerge. Interestingly, this brigade was also supposedly destroyed in November in an allegedly failed attempt to capture Pavlivka, and in the end neither the destruction of the brigade nor the failure of the attack turned out to be true. Oh well.

Wagner can go places and do things the regular military can't due to its ambigue legal status.

In Africa and the Middle East yes, because they can act as unofficial armed assets supporting the Russian government's geopolitical interests around the world, but in Ukraine they act under the Russian command of the MoD, if you think Wagner can go around and doing they want you're just playing dumb.

And the Russian MoD is even to blame for messing up the supply chain issues

Proven false multiple times by facts on the ground, Wagner's bombardment against the AFU in Artyomovsk never ceased or diminished, often Prigozhin's complaints about the lack of ammunition were followed by videos of even more intense bombing against the AFU, Is there evidence of the use of Lancets and T-90Ms in Artyomovsk, am I supposed to believe that the Russian MoD is sabotaging the Wagner munitions supply at the same time as supplying them with their best MBTs and kamikaze drones?

PhSt wrote:

SonOfaBitch wrote:
You are stuck in your video simulator. I suggest you take off the Virtual Reality goggles and lay off the Kremlin dope for away. It's literally F up after F up at this point.

Pro NATzO shills like this SOAB have a habit of describing things opposite of reality. Now that Ukraine (under the command of its NATzO patrons) have committed itself to launching a Terrorist attack on the Russian border, Propaganda Bots like this SOAB are utilized to spread disinformation.

Russia needs to continue hitting and killing more NATzO DOGS and once all of Ukraine is destroyed the next to be exterminated are the Baltic and Finnish NATzO Dogs.

One user suggested that this site is under watch by the Russian MoD, if so, I suggest that Russian paramilitary units help track down the IP and location of NATzO PIG Propagandists like SOAB, collect data on all of them, and then assign special Wagner ops overseas to kill them and their families. Killing NATzO propagandists will serve two purpose: 1) This will remind NATzO Propagandist PIGS that NATzO won't be there to help them, 2) Voicing support for NATzO or spreading narratives that are counter to Russia's interests will put their lives at a high risk.

sundoesntrise wrote:

mnztr wrote:

even if all true the Russians can screw up about 10x more then Ukraine and still win.

You are stuck in your video simulator. I suggest you take off the Virtual Reality goggles and lay off the Kremlin dope for away. It's literally F up after F up at this point.

Your boy Putin is probably gonna take the bait on any Minsk lll proposals - man's got a record on getting played on diplomatic stage (remember Istanbul). Thinking he part of the cool guys again meanwhile Ukraine gets transformed into Europe's numba wan military (this time for real).

There is no plan, it's just ad hoc and never ending incompetence.