Where was the border guards? There is a war going on and russian apparently had hundreds of thousands of men on western border.
Where were they?
Bit of a stupid question.
This nazi force didn't just form up and stumble over the border in a random place, this has been planned and organised and the point of attack carefully chosen and the size of the attacking force was likely planned to make sure they got through relatively quickly at the point they attacked.
This is a distraction.
There are definitely no superhumans in any of the Russian military cadres - more like potbellied overdue retirees that are drunk on potato vodka most of the time.
Of course... I am guessing you are one of those Hollywood screen writers that are on strike... is it OK to type here or will you get into trouble?
If true and this was allowed to occur so far behind your lines, things aren't going nearly as well as the cheerleaders say.
Oh please... they are doing it there because it is so far away from the front lines and the actual Russian soldiers that would kick their arses if they tried it anywhere on the front line.
This is faggotry of the highest order... a PR attack that wont help their cause at all, but is going to get them killed.
The story is some Group called "the Liberty of Russia legion" is doing it.
Navalny types... so they are not Ukrainian military which means they don't need to take any prisoners.
This is what russia gets if it's true for allowing this to go on for so long and pussy footing as they have been, declare war mobilize mass forces, and end it, otherwise your only asking for situations like this
Yes, Russia has to end this as soon as possible because of the damage it is doing to the west...
I am sure when the elections in the US come around funding for this conflict is going to fall dramatically... and Europe will be as useful without the US in Ukraine as they were in Afghanistan when the US decided to leave.
100 guys with a couple of vehicles managed to make more territorial gains in 3 hours than the Russian Army barring Wagner did in the last 12 months.
And that is going to win them this conflict obviously because it has always been about occupying territory you can't hold...
The answer is obviously more sanctions.
We know what the plan was, but perhaps Pregozhin never agreed to allow his PMC troops to be used this way and when he had opportunities to win the battle they cut of his ammo to keep the grinder going. Perhaps this resulted in excessive deaths on the part of his PMC. Which is why he threatened to pull out.
If he does not want the job there are other PMCs in Russia.
I think these morons were arguing some pages back with you about the nuclear doctrine being valid in case of violation of territorial integrity
Your inability to read is a serious problem regarding sensible communication.
Nukes are not needed as long as the enemy is Ukrainian... or Navalny type Russian. When the enemy troops are Polish then nuke the fuckers.
Well the territorial integrity went out the window this morning lmfao
100 guys in MRAPs is hardly a threat to Russian territorial integrity.
The fact that you are falling to pieces over such a pin prick attack shows you are part of the problem.
It is three very small villages so hardly huge gains, while this isn't the end of the world if true a force of hundreds managed to slip THAT FAR past your lines, undetected and went straight in and started shooting.
They did it with civilian vehicles... if they had Challengers and Abrams tanks then that might be a problem...
Infiltrating 100 guys to an area... especially a group that claims to be made up of Russians... is no big deal.
AND if any cheerleader here says "Part of the plan" Then your telling me the Russians willingly let their own people get iced for their plan?
Not part of the plan, but the enemy are getting butchered and they have to respond and their attempts at using new British super missiles results in them exposing and losing aircraft, and their drones keep getting shot down or otherwise defeated... this sort of terrorist activity and murder is all they have left.
Despite getting more money than the Russian military has received over the last two financial years...
Some think this may be an excuse now to move onto Kharkov and others.
Evidence that the Ukrainian military as a force needs to be eliminated.
I wouldn't mock if I where you again, I don't know if the claims are true but if they are, Russia literally got invaded, and civilians got gunned down on their own home turf well past the front line. Thats hardly something to underscore or downplay. I also don't see anyone "Cheering" I see people rightfully criticizing the russians if the claims are true.
The border is thousands of kms long and this was an attack by 100 men in light probably civilian vehicles... this is the sort of shit the Chechens did... attacking hospitals and schools and theatres... it is just confirmation that this should be an extermination and that hitting HQs so far as dumbed down the quality of the planners in the Ukraine to this level.
Fanboy or not if this is true, its perfectly reasonable to criticize the sheer incompetence of allowing such a thing to occur and it should be only a total dumbass would downplay it
This is evidence that they are doing the right thing killing Orcs...
I was actually hoping they'd put a couple of tank brigadrs in the field and roll all the way to Belgorod - that way Cucktin wouldn't have any other option than to actually do something but now he will probably make mean threats, speak about 'consequences' and praise his utterly incompetent Armed Forces.
The western overlords and planners of nazi tactics would not allow their precious vehicles be exposed to capture like that...
And yet again praise from the usual idiots that the nazis are murdering civilians and seeking out civilian targets.
They are clearly Bandarites... stephan would be proud.
I do not jump to conclusions, if the above is the truth then well Putin ha shown he is not a capable wartime leader for sure, he keeps playing it too nice, and thinks he can try and play chess with this war while putting in minimal effort, its clear he cares to much about the politics here as opposed to solving the problem
There it is... putin has to stand down because nazis being nazis is obviously his fault.
No calls for Biden or Eu leaders to stand down for funding nazis murdering civilians?
If Russians insist on being pussies they will rightfully be fúcked as pussies because that's all pussies are good for
Oh please... small group of military soldiers too afraid of fighting Russian soldiers join a group to sneak over a border and shoot at civilians and relive the days before the Russians joined the fight where they could murder all they wanted with no risk or threat and you are blaming Putin?
Fine.
But really clear who the pussies are.
Trust the rodents and 404 to make a big hooha of this. By tomorrow this will be all over but Atemovsk will remain as a great victory for the Russians.
A distraction that paid trolls can use to stir up shit, and headless chickens can get all excited about and winge and moan and complain about things that annoy them... like who the current leader of a country might be at the moment.
While I'm pissed of the **** up from russian MOD on this and Shoigu and likes should be canned, sundoesntrise isn't spreading facts. In 1 year, Russia took about 30% of Ukraine.
You are a fucking moron.
They got together a small group of men that crossed the rather enormous border and shot at civilians... what fucking heroes.
The question is... is this a distraction from the victory at Artyomovsk, or is it a distraction for the start of the offensive they keep promising...
Fucking idiots like you would have all the Russian forces moved to this region to fight the few guys that are left while Kiev might be moving a real attacking force somewhere to attack significant places.
However if its a few hundred guys plus vehicles, there is no dam excuse here and to try and defend it complete and utter idiocy to its FINEST.
Of course... Russia should be looking out for groups of 50-100 enemy at a time when they are amassing supposedly a large force for a summer offensive... soon to be relabeled the autumn offensive and then the winter offensive...
Infallible they are not, but they are good enough to kill 8 times more enemy soldiers, using only a fraction of the Russian power against an enemy supported, economically and militarily, by more than 30 countries...
And to be clear... the orcs and nazis are not third world mud hut dwellers, this is a peer enemy... in the Soviet military they were all in the same army... this is the equivalent of a civil war in the US with US soldiers fighting US soldiers... so one side having such a kill ratio would be astounding.
I'm not so sure about your inflated numbers there but I would say it would be very easy to disguise a fairly large group as Russians and that is most likely what they did.
For all we know they might be Tiktokers and all from Russia.... the Navalny squad.
Yes with guns, gear, Russian mraps...got past all the check points, again if what being stated is true then You really show me you just prefer to keep your head in the ground rather than admit fault when its due
Didn't you say you were not making assumptions?
Didn't you mention this group of civilian killing nazis called themselves Russian?
I ain't no fanboy if the russians fucked up big, they deserve what they get period
They get to kill more nazis...
And this group appears to be pro Kiev Russians so killing off those bastards should be a pleasure.
There is a big difference between occupying a territory and making an incursion inside.
What those guys did is a suicide mission. There is no way they escape with ka-52 looking for them.
We don't know which side of the border these men came from.
Suicide mission or not, you need to look at a map, where is the frontline compared to the three claimed spots?.
That means nothing if they were navalny supporters who were already located inside Russian borders to start with.
Measure that distance then ask yourself if a large number of men was allowed to go that far, and kill civilians and not detected once.
Obviously if 100+ men crossed the border together in a tight group armed with weapons and ammo then you would have a point... not a great point, but still a point.
There is no such thing as a 100% protected border anywhere and when the border is over 1000km long there will be lots of places small groups could sneak across and then gather together in some location...
Russia falls into these insignificant psyop traps so easily.
No. The doomsayer pussies lose their shit so easily. It appears so far to be a failed attack on civilian targets that has cost them more men killed as usual... seems to be a pattern.
The hilarious thing is that if these idiot were Russians on Kievs side they probably said the big offensive was going in that direction so all you have to do is shoot the place up against a few policemen and we will come and relieve you and on to Moscow... and instead what they are doing is let some Russians die by Russian bullets.
Increases the average IQ of the country I guess.
They need to take buffer space next to the border, there's no way about it anymore
Whether it's significant or not is irrelevant, the cheerleading squad can backflip for Putin, but doesn't change the reality
Bingo you idiot... the Russians mobilised 300K men and you want to piss that advantage away by putting hundreds of thousands of soldiers on fucking guard duty.
Lucky Putin isn't that thick.
The attacks into Belgorod was more likely a distraction for the main stream west media, instead of focusing on the fall of Artemovsk.
Or should we say the disappearance of Bakhmut from the maps?
Bro, we talk about a few dozen of saboteurs shipped in a one-way ticket mission, most of whom are already cheering Bandera.
Discussing that as any kind of important event is crazy.
And that is the Key... PD seems to be continuing his obsession with pussies, yet this sort of action exposes the hard core nazi idiots of Russian and Ukrainian pursuasion and allows them to be killed easily and efficiently out in the open... he should be singing and dancing that they use such stupid tactics that expose them to modern Russian attack helicopters with excellent optics and ground mapping radar.
They managed to get this photo of a captured MRAP out in the heat of the night - notice how there was apparantly such a rush to get the pictures out they photographed in pitch dark.
Yeah, they could have nuked their own territory to turn night into day for the picture so internet slime will still not be satisfied.
Ironic that our Serbian member has turned so Euro fag on us... always complains and nothing is ever good enough... Serbia teacher my arse PD... you are training for the Serbia and soon to be EU diplomatic core.... tell me how much I oppress minorities...
Bullshit, never let a good weapon go to waste
You obviously never had to carry a Thompson...
Russia will be watching the NATO exercises like a hawk and you can bet Kaliningrad Iskanders will be on alert. It would be funny if Russia forms up a large air group and moves over Belarus in force towards Poland just to keep NATO on its toes. I am sure a couple of subs will also be on alert with nukes.
Plus there are actually a few honest moral people within HATO circles that would not put up with the current
inchief starting WWIII like that...
If we look at Johns posts of releases by the Russian military these probing attacks by the orcs happen a dozen times a day and when they try in places the Russians are located they get flattened and the vehicles destroyed and artillery supporting the attack gets whacked.
The usual monkeys throwing shit when one such probing attack finds a gap... big deal.
The number of men they are losing doing this shit is totally unsustainable and they know it but they need results but the fact that they don't care about losses is excellent because it means Russia is killing the hard core nutters that would make a future difficult and dangerous for Russia and Russians.
Your boy Putin is probably gonna take the bait on any Minsk lll proposals - man's got a record on getting played on diplomatic stage (remember Istanbul). Thinking he part of the cool guys again meanwhile Ukraine gets transformed into Europe's numba wan military (this time for real).
Yes, obviously, because of the politicians involved he is obviously the weakest link... if you can accuse him of any failing then perhaps it would be being too trusting, but the first two Minsk agreements have cured him of that I would say.
Russia has always wanted peace, but not at any cost, so Kiev will meet Putins demands or the fighting will continue till the west loses patience... which might be 5 or 6 months at best.
Bidens only real chance of being reelected would be to sign a peace agreement with Russia and declare himself peace maker (and maybe pressure international organisations to suggest him for the peace prize)...
But realistically Biden has zero chance in the next elections... he wont even make the democrat nomination because they know he wont beat any republican... even trump.
There is no plan, it's just ad hoc and never ending incompetence.
Wake up and smell the ashes Mr Freeman... the west is burning up their own armament stocks and sending money to Kiev like there is no tomorrow... and despite the fact that western MIC industries are going to make a fortune replacing all that old shit with brand new shiny shit the bill is going to be eye watering because it is all done in a hurry and most suppliers can name their price... and who knows how to gouge better than the US defence industry.
Add to that that they want to build up Taiwan for use against China because they don't expect to be able to ship anything once the shooting starts so the act of sending enormous volumes of arms and ammo to Taiwan might actually start the conflict they so desperately want.
Then we will see how good those Chinese ships and planes and tanks are, but against Taiwan, so it will be interesting to see what other countries actually decide to get involved.
London is not the financial centre of Europe any more and London runs on that... adding lots of red tape to trade with the EU is another shot in the foot... and now that energy is more expensive in Europe for no benefit except the hope to hurt Russia which totally missed its mark... in fact all this BS has helped Putin do what he needed... which is show what total
the west are and to pivot Russia away from the Imperial west and towards the rest of the world who want investment and growth and development but know they can't get that from the west.
Funny... so many countries wanting to join BRICS and alphabet people in control of the west... it is going to be alphabet people everywhere in control... hahaha.
Pro NATzO shills like this SOAB have a habit of describing things opposite of reality. Now that Ukraine (under the command of its NATzO patrons) have committed itself to launching a Terrorist attack on the Russian border, Propaganda Bots like this SOAB are utilized to spread disinformation.
Exactly... Kiev is trying to launch probing attacks everywhere and occasionally something will sneak through, but it will not achieve anything and be wiped out like the dozens of other pinprick attacks every day... each of which is costing Kiev a bare minimum of 50 dead and more often more... so let them continue because you don't win wars that way.
One user suggested that this site is under watch by the Russian MoD, if so, I suggest that Russian paramilitary units
I liked you post and then unliked it because of the end part where you suggested killing pro Orc minions on this forum.
Pro Orc minions on this forum are court jesters... kill them if you can but if you do they have billions to replace them with... killing them would be futile and potentially counter productive if they are replaced by someone more convincing.
In Africa and the Middle East yes, because they can act as unofficial armed assets supporting the Russian government's geopolitical interests around the world, but in Ukraine they act under the Russian command of the MoD, if you think Wagner can go around and doing they want you're just playing dumb.
Exactly... they are Wagner... not Blackwater...
There will be casualties, there is no doubt, but the Russian army was not used at most for one OBVIOUS reason - the suffering of civilians in Ukroshitstan.
We are so used to the west destroying an entire country to save it from a leadership that does not want to use US dollars in trade any more or does not do as ordered from Washington that we think wars should always kill everyone in your way.
It is so difficult for some to understand that Putin ordered this conflict to save Ukrainian civilians from being murdered by Kievs armed forces, but murdering all Ukrainian civilians was never part of the plan and was actually something they try to avoid despite western propaganda to the contrary.
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With the return under control of the Graivoron checkpoint and the end of filtration measures in Kozinka in the Belgorod region, the end of the CTO regime was announced.