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    Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #4

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    Post  thegopnik Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:48 am

    Fly off a runway(thought at 1st it would fly off like a rocket), operate as a drone, fly hypersonic near space, fly back and return, this is my most favorite rocket program and I honestly cant wait for those results of what it achieved. The engine is still a mystery but I will blow my load if they say detonation engine because we are ever closer to achieving a hypersonic interceptor project Razz
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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:53 am

    I think what they are talking about is something similar to the Baikal mockup from years ago.   I expect they may want a 1st stage with a very significant cross-range capability and the ability to fly under glide and jet turbine power for several hundred kms to return to the cosmodrome airstrip.  I think they will put together a mass analog of the first stage and fit it with a deployable wing & deployment actuators, landing gear, an (aviation) turbine engine, fuel tanks and a UAV-style avionics package.

    Given that the wing will be in a stowed config on the launch, I don't think they will go for a horiz take-off but an air-dropped test so that wing deployment and engine startup can be tested, and of course the flight transitions from a free-fall in a semi-stable condition into a fully stable glide config and then into powered flight.

    I'm very keen to see this vehicle fly after so long as a (derided) mockup.  Flyback boosters are the real deal for reuseables, more so than inverted candles in IMHO. The technology lends itself to bigger applications such as returning orbital spaceplanes and SSTOs.  

    Stupid Muskian fan-bois have always derided the idea of winged flyback boosters as having "wasted mass" but that is nonsense.  I don't remember US sources ever bemoaning the fact that SRBs are heavy and hopelessly inefficient from an ISP aspect - they (correctly) point out that the mass and relative inefficiency of strap-ons doesn't matter as their job is solely to get the core to altitude. No need to get them into orbit, so just add on whatever mass and fuel they require and let 'em rip.

    Krylo-SV is intended to be a stand-alone light booster, but its sized to be suitable as a strap-on for a heavy-lifter. Its a great interim step for developing a fly-back strap-on for the future modular SHLV, whatever shape or form it ends up taking.

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    Post  kvs Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:48 pm

    Horizontal take off is sci-fi fantasy. The atmosphere is too thin for most of the trip and you still need to get the right speed to enter LEO.
    By contrast, having a spent booster return to the surface via flight is ideal since the rocket engine life is not wasted and it is actually
    feasible to use the thicker layer of the atmosphere to control the descent via gliding (with some optional power). There is no symmetry
    between take off and landing. That only applies to jet flight which never goes above 42,000 feet (aside from some exotics like the U-2
    and M-55) and does not exceed 900 km/hr for civilian travel.

    The "inverted candle" concept is indeed stupid. Useful payload is reduced because fuel has to be saved for the return trip and the engine
    life is reduced for no valid reason other than fapping by fanbois.

    Good to see the Baikal concept finally getting some practical development.

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    Post  Scorpius Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:49 am

    Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #4 - Page 25 F_YXZhdGFycy5tZHMueWFuZGV4Lm5ldC9nZXQtemVuX2RvYy8zOTk0NTU5L3B1Yl82MTc5MmI1M2M5MzljNTcxZGE4ZGM2NGJfNjE3OTM3NzhhYTgzYjY2ZjA5YzVkNDAyL3NjYWxlXzEyMDA_X19pZD0xNDQ3MTk=
    The weld on the Soyuz-5 tank. The seam is made by friction welding with mixing using a Russian machine developed by the company "Sespel" together with the Institute of Strength Physics and Materials Science SB RAS

    Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #4 - Page 25 F_YXZhdGFycy5tZHMueWFuZGV4Lm5ldC9nZXQtemVuX2RvYy8xNzA3MzU0L3B1Yl82MTc5MmI1M2M5MzljNTcxZGE4ZGM2NGJfNjE3OTJmODQwMGE5ZjYyOWQ4N2M3ZDJmL3NjYWxlXzEyMDA_X19pZD0xNDQ3MTk=
    And this is a photo of the workshop where the equipment for the production of Soyuz-5 is mounted.


    Video of the machine operation.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:49 pm

    Soyuz with Galileo satellites successfully launched from Kuru cosmodrome

    https://ria.ru/20211205/soyuz-1762221174.html

    MOSCOW, December 5 - RIA Novosti. The Russian Soyuz-ST-B launch vehicle with Galileo satellites successfully launched from the Kuru cosmodrome.
    The broadcast of the event was shown on the Roscosmos website .
    According to the official Telegram channel of the state corporation, the rocket successfully brought the Fregat upper stage with satellites to a suborbital trajectory. It is noted that the "Fregat" has started the flight mission. The mission will last 3 hours 51 minutes.

    Both birds have separated correctly and are delivered to correct orbits. Another successful mission for Russian launchers thumbsup

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    Post  Scorpius Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:30 pm

    https://conf.energia.ru/images/tezis-22-1.pdf
    Abstracts of the XXII Scientific and Technical Conference of Scientists and Specialists dedicated to the 60th anniversary of Yuri Gagarin's flight, 75th anniversary of the rocket and space industry and the founding of PJSC RSC Energia.


    You will need knowledge of Russian... or google translator.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:53 am

    Because it is a PDF you can open it in a PDF reader and select the text and copy it across to a translation site.

    The Yandex automatically translates documents but has a size limit of 5MB and this document is 10 times bigger than that so it wont translate the whole document in one go.

    You could split it up into 10 pieces and translate each piece.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:55 pm

    Nice pic of Prichal docked to Nauka. First good one I have seen.

    Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #4 - Page 25 Fgb-oh10

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    Post  Hole Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:38 pm

    Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #4 - Page 25 Ff_a_810
    N-1

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    Post  Scorpius Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:11 pm

    Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #4 - Page 25 B23C5753B36F930B98DD9731E98FF297
    So - Maezawa on the ISS. The one who bought a ticket for Starship from Musk, but now flew to the ISS on the Russian Soyuz.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:28 pm

    Scorpius wrote:So - Maezawa on the ISS. The one who bought a ticket for Starship from Musk, but now flew to the ISS on the Russian Soyuz.

    Maezawa will get more bang for his buck (yen) with Russia than he will from Musks amateur operation.

    He wil also only need to spend ~6hrs in the Soyuz until docking with ISS. Murkans spend >24hrs in their capsules on-route. Time is money...
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    Post  flamming_python Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:24 am

    Have they brought William Shatner down yet?

    Otherwise it's too many tourists in one go
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    Post  Hole Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:41 pm

    Shatner only had an hour in space.
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    Post  kvs Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:07 pm

    Hole wrote:Shatner only had an hour in space.

    The Bezos racket is a joke. It is suborbital and the "hour" is mostly going up and down. But since it is a yanqui racket, it
    is a great achievement compared to those Russian primitives.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:21 pm

    kvs wrote:
    Hole wrote:Shatner only had an hour in space.

    The Bezos racket is a joke.  It is suborbital and the "hour" is mostly going up and down.    But since it is a yanqui racket, it
    is a great achievement compared to those Russian primitives.


    The Virgin racket with their pissy little rocket glider is even worse. Calling it a "spacecraft" is simply a fecking insult.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:23 pm

    The launch of the "Angara" from the Plesetsk cosmodrome is scheduled for December 23

    https://tass.ru/kosmos/13153557

    MOSCOW, December 9. / TASS /. The launch of the Angara-A5 heavy launch vehicle from the Plesetsk cosmodrome is scheduled for the evening of December 23. This is stated in the message of the administration of the Kargasok district of the Tomsk region.

    "It is planned to launch the Angara-A5 rocket from the Plesetsk cosmodrome (Arkhangelsk region). The launch time is December 23, 2021 at 18:00 Moscow time (reserve launch date - December 24, 2021)," the message says. posted on the district page in the social network " VKontakte ".

    That should make 24 flights this year, or 25 if the Soyuz from ESA Kourou cosmodrome is included (as it should be). That will be the 3rd straight failure-free year since the aborted Soyuz MS-10 in Oct 2018 russia

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    Post  George1 Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:53 pm

    Russia launches trials of plasma thrusters for nanosatellite orbit retention


    The plasma thrusters will be mounted on two satellites of Sputnix Company that will be launched into space under the Space PI program in 2022

    MOSCOW, December 9. /TASS/. Russia has launched the trials of a plasma thruster for retaining the attitude of small space vehicles in orbit, the press office of Sitronics Group told TASS on Thursday.

    "The staff of the plasma engine laboratory of the LaPlas Institute within the MEPhI National Research Nuclear University has launched trials jointly with representatives of the Sputnix Company (part of Sitronics Group) of Russia’s first plasma propulsion unit that can be mounted on small space vehicles," the press office noted.

    The engine has been named VERA (Volume-Effective Rocket-propulsion Assembly). "The small size and weight of the thrusters that have been developed make it possible to retain a cluster of ten nanosatellites in orbit," the press office added.

    With these thrusters mounted on CubeSat 3U satellites weighing no more than 4 kg, these space vehicles will be capable of retaining their orbital position or, upon the completion of their operation, lower the orbit’s altitude, cutting the time of burning up in the dense layers of the atmosphere two-or three-fold. The orbit lowering maneuver after the end of the satellite’s operation will make it possible to cut the time of space junk existence, the press office specified.

    These plasma thrusters will be mounted on two satellites of Sputnix Company that will be launched into space under the Space PI program in 2022.

    https://tass.com/science/1373017

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    Post  Hole Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:37 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:The launch of the "Angara" from the Plesetsk cosmodrome is scheduled for December 23

    https://tass.ru/kosmos/13153557

    MOSCOW, December 9. / TASS /. The launch of the Angara-A5 heavy launch vehicle from the Plesetsk cosmodrome is scheduled for the evening of December 23. This is stated in the message of the administration of the Kargasok district of the Tomsk region.

    "It is planned to launch the Angara-A5 rocket from the Plesetsk cosmodrome (Arkhangelsk region). The launch time is December 23, 2021 at 18:00 Moscow time (reserve launch date - December 24, 2021)," the message says. posted on the district page in the social network " VKontakte ".

    That should make 24 flights this year, or 25 if the Soyuz from ESA Kourou cosmodrome is included (as it should be).  That will be the 3rd straight failure-free year since the aborted Soyuz MS-10 in Oct 2018 russia

    The year isn´t finished yet, man! BAD KARMA! pale

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    Post  Hole Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:38 pm

    George1 wrote:

    Russia launches trials of plasma thrusters for nanosatellite orbit retention



    The plasma thrusters will be mounted on two satellites of Sputnix Company that will be launched into space under the Space PI program in 2022

    MOSCOW, December 9. /TASS/. Russia has launched the trials of a plasma thruster for retaining the attitude of small space vehicles in orbit, the press office of Sitronics Group told TASS on Thursday.

    "The staff of the plasma engine laboratory of the LaPlas Institute within the MEPhI National Research Nuclear University has launched trials jointly with representatives of the Sputnix Company (part of Sitronics Group) of Russia’s first plasma propulsion unit that can be mounted on small space vehicles," the press office noted.

    The engine has been named VERA (Volume-Effective Rocket-propulsion Assembly). "The small size and weight of the thrusters that have been developed make it possible to retain a cluster of ten nanosatellites in orbit," the press office added.

    With these thrusters mounted on CubeSat 3U satellites weighing no more than 4 kg, these space vehicles will be capable of retaining their orbital position or, upon the completion of their operation, lower the orbit’s altitude, cutting the time of burning up in the dense layers of the atmosphere two-or three-fold. The orbit lowering maneuver after the end of the satellite’s operation will make it possible to cut the time of space junk existence, the press office specified.

    These plasma thrusters will be mounted on two satellites of Sputnix Company that will be launched into space under the Space PI program in 2022.

    https://tass.com/science/1373017

    Our beloved friends and partners will likely scream "ASAT test!" Very Happy
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:29 pm

    Hole wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:The launch of the "Angara" from the Plesetsk cosmodrome is scheduled for December 23

    https://tass.ru/kosmos/13153557
    ..........
    That should make 24 flights this year, or 25 if the Soyuz from ESA Kourou cosmodrome is included (as it should be).  That will be the 3rd straight failure-free year since the aborted Soyuz MS-10 in Oct 2018 russia

    The year isn´t finished yet, man! BAD KARMA! pale

    Guys at Plasetsk are one of main reasons launch statistics are this good, it’ll be fine


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    Post  Scorpius Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:41 pm

    The launch of the Proton-M launch vehicle with the Briz-M upper stage and the #ExpressAMU3 and #ExpressAMU7 spacecraft is postponed to a reserve date.
    https://t.me/roscosmos_gk/2072
    Another remark was revealed on the upper stage. We will not risk it, the technical management has decided to calmly finalize the missile system in the assembly and test building. We will leave with the launch on a reserve date, which we will inform you about additionally.
    https://t.me/rogozin_do/1438

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:08 pm

    Launch campaign photos for Proton-M/Briz-M with Ekspress-AMU3 & -AMU7. Liftoff scheduled for 13/12 at 15:07 Moscow time  thumbsup

    https://www.roscosmos.ru/33499/


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    Post  Scorpius Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:33 am

    Big_Gazza wrote: Liftoff scheduled for 13/12 at 17:07 Moscow time

    15:07 Moscow time.

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