Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #4

kvs wrote:Soloviev, a Russian TV commentator, noted that Rogozin's requests for funding should have been heeded and
Russia would have more of the necessary operational satellites that it needs...

PapaDragon wrote:

kvs wrote:Soloviev, a Russian TV commentator, noted that Rogozin's requests for funding should have been heeded and
Russia would have more of the necessary operational satellites that it needs...

Rogozin was illiterate flat-earther moron who spent more time posting stupid shit on Twitter than doing anything even remotely related to his job, who fucked up pretty much everything he was even attached to and constantly made Russia look like a massive joke simply by association

Giving money to any organization under him would have been equivalent of giving money to Russian Navy in 2000s, cash down the drain

He was replaced with Borisov who actually has extensive track record behind him and almost zero social media footprint, this is who you give money to

PapaDragon wrote:Giving money to any organization under him would have been equivalent of giving money to Russian Navy in 2000s, cash down the drain

He was replaced with Borisov who actually has extensive track record behind him and almost zero social media footprint, this is who you give money to

Scorpius wrote:Launches are also planned on October 18 from Plesetsk and October 26 from Baikonur. In total , 6 space launches from three Russian cosmodromes should be carried out in October .

Aerospace Forces launched a Soyuz-2.1v carrier rocket with military satellites from the Plesetsk cosmodrome

MOSCOW, October 22 - RIA Novosti. The Russian Aerospace Forces launched a Soyuz-2.1v carrier rocket from the Plesetsk cosmodrome with two military satellites, the Defense Ministry told reporters.
"On October 21, from the Plesetsk cosmodrome ( Arkhangelsk region ), in the interests of the Russian Ministry of Defense, a Soyuz-2.1v light-class launch vehicle was launched with spacecraft on board," the military department said in a statement.
The spacecraft have been assigned serial numbers Cosmos-2561 and Cosmos-2562.
This is the second such launch in the last week: on October 16, the Angara-1.2 light launch vehicle, launched from Plesetsk, launched the Cosmos-2560 military satellite into orbit. On October 10, a Soyuz-2.1b carrier rocket with a Glonass-K navigation spacecraft was launched from Plesetsk.
Launch of a light class Soyuz-2.1v rocket with a military satellite Kosmos-2558 at the Plesetsk cosmodrome - RIA Novosti, 1920, 08/01/2022

COSMODROME VOSTOCHNY /Amur Region/, October 22. /TASS/. The Soyuz-2.1b launch vehicle with three Gonets-M satellites and the Skif-D spacecraft launched under the Sphere program launched from the Vostochny cosmodrome, a TASS correspondent reports from the scene.

Approximately nine minutes later, the head part, the Fregat upper stage with four satellites, will separate from the third stage. The further withdrawal of the devices will take a little more than four hours. It will be carried out using the accelerating unit.

This is the first rocket launch in 2022 from Vostochny. Satellites "Gonets-M" for the first time went into orbit from this cosmodrome. Also, "Skif-D" is the first device launched under the "Sphere" program.

Borisov instructed to start producing a space satellite a day

Borisov called the production of one satellite per day the necessary rate of production

MOSCOW, October 20 - RIA Novosti. The space industry should move to the conveyor production of satellites, the required rate is one device per day, said the head of Roskosmos, Yuri Borisov.
"We must reach the pace: a satellite a day. We will learn," Borisov said on Thursday at the Roscosmos industry forum "Team of the Future." According to him, Russia in this area is ready to learn from the experience of other countries, including China .
“Mass production is a different kind of logistics, starting from storage facilities and providing everything you need and ending with the organization of production,” Borisov said. He believes that the situation when a satellite can be created for 18 months is no good. "Unfortunately, we are lagging behind, and this must be recognized," the head of the state corporation said.

KOROLEV /Moscow Region/, October 26. /TASS/. Russia’s Soyuz carrier rocket with the Progress MS-21 space freighter blasted off from the Baikonur space center in Kazakhstan early on Wednesday, a TASS correspondent reported from the Mission Control Center.

Rocket orbited the Progress MS-21 space freighter carrying equipment, food and New Year presents for cosmonauts to the International Space Station (ISS). The space freighter successfully separated from the upper stage of Soyuz-2-1a launched earlier.

Its flight to the International Space Station (ISS) will be carried under the two-day scheme. Progress MS-21 is to dock with the Poisk research module of the Russian ISS segment at 05:50 Moscow time on October 28.

The spacecraft is to deliver over 2,500 kilograms of cargo to the ISS, including 702 kilograms of fuel, 420 kilograms of water, 41 kilograms of nitrogen and around 1,357 kilograms of various equipment.

It will also deliver fresh food and clothes for the ISS crew and filament coils for 3D printing on board the orbital outpost.

The space freighter is also carrying New Year presents for the ISS crew, Russian cosmonaut and TASS special correspondent aboard the ISS Dmitry Petelin reported. The presents were packed by the cosmonauts’ family members and the psychological support team, and will be unboxed on New Year’s Eve.

On October 7, 2022, a successful demonstration launch of a rocket engine based on oxygen-hydrogen components took place at the site of JSC "Research Institute of Mechanical Engineering" in the city of Nizhnyaya Salda, Sverdlovsk Region. Work on the project to create a reusable rocket propulsion system with a central body is carried out under the program of the national project "Science and Universities," the ANO "Regional Infrastructure of Education and Science" reported. At the site of the Scientific Research Institute of Mechanical Engineering, demonstration launches of a propulsion system with a central body were made, consisting of 16 rocket engines, which are combined into a single system. The rocket and space complex demonstrator for the returnable reusable launch vehicle includes control and monitoring systems with artificial intelligence and has no analogues in the world. This year, after a large amount of theoretical and design work, the demonstrator of the first stage engine was successfully tested on the oxygen-hydrogen fuel pair, which provides the maximum energy performance for the launch vehicle.

This is a big and exciting step in our project, because the oxygen-hydrogen fuel pair is a very explosive mixture, few people in the world know how to work with such engines: Russia, the USA and China {Big_Gazza edit: and India}. Now we are moving to a new stage, only this fuel pair will ensure the fulfillment of all the tasks. Therefore, we initially set the task of switching to oxygen and hydrogen, there were many doubts, because it is very difficult. Not everything worked out right away, but the launch took place, the central body, cooled, has already worked. Without exaggeration, this is world class. There is not a single scientific publication that would describe the launch of an engine demonstrator with a cooled central body running on oxygen and hydrogen, so we can say that these two launches, which took place, are the first in the world. The challenges we face now”, says  Sergey Vaulin , SUSU Vice-Rector for Scientific and Educational Centers and Complexes.

Work on the project is supported by the Governor of the Chelyabinsk region  Alexei Teksler . The regional government allocated 50 million rubles, another 5 million were sent by South Ural State University and 10 million by the Ural REC. The project is being implemented jointly with the State Rocket Center named after Academician V.P. Makeev (Miass), JSC Research Institute of Mechanical Engineering (Nizhnyaya Salda).

The demonstrator of a liquid-propellant rocket engine with a central body is similar to that which will be used in a promising reusable launch vehicle, which is being created today at the State Rocket Center named after V.P. Makeev. It is ten times smaller than a real engine ,” said Vladimir Degtyar, Director General and General Designer of the State Rocket Center named after V.P. Makeev, Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

Work on the carrier rocket "CROWN" Since the 90s of the XX century, the SRC has been conducting initiative design work on a reusable single-stage vertical take-off and landing launch vehicle KORONA (Space Orbital Rocket - Single-stage Spacecraft Carrier). All LV engines use oxygen/hydrogen components. Most KORONA launcher systems are designed as modular. The launch vehicle provides for a high degree of autonomy in the performance of a flight mission, up to the independent completion of the flight in the event of a loss of communication with the control center. The design life of the design of the launch vehicle elements, most of its instruments and units is at least 100 flights, the OM and SOPP engines are at least 50, individual, especially energy-intensive units are at least 25.

Sources:
South Ural State University
National Projects.rf

kvs wrote:The talk about an SSTO from such an engine as in the above video methinks is overblown.    The theoretical ideal efficiency increase would be
about a factor of two mostly from the low altitude stage flight stage.    But this is not enough to make SSTO cheap and easy.   Also, the theoretical ideal efficiency boost is not reached in any prototype.  

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/design/aerospike/losses.shtml

Scorpius wrote:So, launches from Russian cosmodromes over the past few weeks:
1. October 10 Soyuz-2.1b/Frigate Russia Glonass-K1 No. 17L Russia VKS of Russia Plesetsk 43/3 Successful
2. October 12 Proton-M/DM-03 Angola AngoSat-2 Angola AngoSat Baikonur 81/24 Successful
3. October 15 Angara-1.2/AM Russia EMKA-3 (Cosmos-2560) Russia Russian Ministry of Defense Plesetsk 35/1 Successful
4. October 21 Soyuz-2.1v/Volga Russia Kosmos-2561 and Kosmos-2562 Russia Russian Ministry of Defense Plesetsk 43/4 Successful
5. October 22 Soyuz-2.1b/Frigate
         -Russia Gonets-M No. 33
         -Russia Gonets-M No. 34
         -Russia Gonets-M No. 35
         -Russia Skif-D No. 11L
   Russia Roscosmos Vostochny 1C Successful
6. October 26 Soyuz-2.1a Russia Progress MS-21 Russia Roscosmos Baikonur 31/6 Successful
7. November 2 Soyuz-2.1b/Frigate Russia Cosmos Russia Russian Ministry of Defense Plesetsk 43/? Successful

limb wrote:

Scorpius wrote:So, launches from Russian cosmodromes over the past few weeks:
1. October 10 Soyuz-2.1b/Frigate Russia Glonass-K1 No. 17L Russia VKS of Russia Plesetsk 43/3 Successful
2. October 12 Proton-M/DM-03 Angola AngoSat-2 Angola AngoSat Baikonur 81/24 Successful
3. October 15 Angara-1.2/AM Russia EMKA-3 (Cosmos-2560) Russia Russian Ministry of Defense Plesetsk 35/1 Successful
4. October 21 Soyuz-2.1v/Volga Russia Kosmos-2561 and Kosmos-2562 Russia Russian Ministry of Defense Plesetsk 43/4 Successful
5. October 22 Soyuz-2.1b/Frigate
         -Russia Gonets-M No. 33
         -Russia Gonets-M No. 34
         -Russia Gonets-M No. 35
         -Russia Skif-D No. 11L
   Russia Roscosmos Vostochny 1C Successful
6. October 26 Soyuz-2.1a Russia Progress MS-21 Russia Roscosmos Baikonur 31/6 Successful
7. November 2 Soyuz-2.1b/Frigate Russia Cosmos Russia Russian Ministry of Defense Plesetsk 43/? Successful

Yet no Liana and only 1 Glonass K

August 10, 2022, AviaStat.ru - The head of the Ministry of Digital Development of Kazakhstan, Bagdat Musin, and the general director of Roscosmos , Yuri Borisov , during negotiations at Baikonur , noted the need to shift the dates for the start of the first test launch to 2024 under the Baiterek project

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At the end of June, the Kazakh minister reported that the construction of the Baiterek complex at Baikonur for launching Soyuz-5 rockets had been moved due to the preparation of technical documentation, work would begin at the end of 2022 and should have been completed by August 2023, since it was planned to be in time test and launch the first Soyuz-5 before the end of the year.

Wut? 7x successful starts in a little over 3 weeks and you are whining that it wasn't even more? Suspect

If it was raining gold coins you'd complain that they hit you on the head.

better 5 liana satellites than 15 kosmos ones. Liana is 500 times more needed, because without it, Nato ships and ukrainian troop movements are very difficult to be targeted.

Russia has not even 20% of Legenda coverage. China already has a Liana equivalent system fully built since early 2010s and is constantly being built up as of now.

China, due to its elites neoliberal being backstabbers completely ok with submitting to the rules based order, is refusing to link up beidou to glonass, so glonass should be #1 priority, not random comm or sabotage satelites. #2 priority is Liana.

Its good that 2 glonass were launched this year. Glonass needs to have at least 4-5m accuracy in the northern hemisphere even if 50% of its working satellites have been shot down.

Scorpius wrote:The next satellite of the GLONASS system (Glonass-M #61) was launched today from Plesetsk.

Yet no Liana and only 1 Glonass K

Scorpius wrote:
So, launches from Russian cosmodromes over the past few weeks:
1. October 10 Soyuz-2.1b/Frigate Russia Glonass-K1 No. 17L Russia VKS of Russia Plesetsk 43/3 Successful
2. October 12 Proton-M/DM-03 Angola AngoSat-2 Angola AngoSat Baikonur 81/24 Successful
3. October 15 Angara-1.2/AM Russia EMKA-3 (Cosmos-2560) Russia Russian Ministry of Defense Plesetsk 35/1 Successful
4. October 21 Soyuz-2.1v/Volga Russia Kosmos-2561 and Kosmos-2562 Russia Russian Ministry of Defense Plesetsk 43/4 Successful
5. October 22 Soyuz-2.1b/Frigate
-Russia Gonets-M No. 33
-Russia Gonets-M No. 34
-Russia Gonets-M No. 35
-Russia Skif-D No. 11L
Russia Roscosmos Vostochny 1C Successful
6. October 26 Soyuz-2.1a Russia Progress MS-21 Russia Roscosmos Baikonur 31/6 Successful
7. November 2 Soyuz-2.1b/Frigate Russia Cosmos Russia Russian Ministry of Defense Plesetsk 43/? Successful