Su-30 for Russian Air Force

Testing the autocannon on the Su-30SM:

I saw a bit of news couple of days ago that VMF might want as many as 57 Su-30SM (with 20 already ordered). Hopefully i can find it again.

Given the news of 60-75 SMs to be ordered by the RuMoD for the next 3 years, i'm prudently assuming that the VMF ones are included in that total, so about 37 more to go, which might mean VVS would get an additional 38 or so on top of the 60 already ordered.

Flown by Russia I assume? I guess we'll find out soon enough...

Time to see what real airpower with real objectives can achieve. Not some phantom air campaign that tends to bomb empty buildings with 5th generation aircraft.

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

OminousSpudd wrote:Flown by Russia I assume? I guess we'll find out soon enough...

Time to see what real airpower with real  objectives can achieve. Not some phantom air campaign that tends to bomb empty buildings with 5th generation aircraft.

sudden Ruslan´s  flights?  Well nobody dis goign to attck Latakia airport neither Israeli non US - this means attack to nuclear power. Of course 12 Su-30SM would be nice add for air superiority and antiship deterrence. But ground offensive is to q challenge is Syrians troops enough or Russians will fight on the ground? or maybe Iranian corps with support of RuAF?

BTW why US is so concerned abut Russian forces in Latakia? I dunno

Dam it!!!

From Latakia Russians will be able to strike Moscow!!!

Su-30SM will eventually receive fifth-generation technologies

GunshipDemocracy wrote:Polite humanitarian convoy to Syria. Sukhoi Akbar, Russia Akbar Putin Akbar

Ru af the syria!

GunshipDemocracy wrote:and Manduro want  to buy at least 12 Su-30. Howeverr maybe it woudl be bnetter to buy48 Yak supersonic fighters?

http://ria.ru/world/20150921/1268547808.html

Venuz to buy 12x Su 30? wow!

It is quite interesting to see, how the west was surprised and no one actually know when and where Su-30SM fly to Syria and that no one actually detect them. Considering, that NATO have a lot of radars in Turkey and US have their radars in Jordan and full control of Iraqi air space through their coalition flights against ISIS and AWACS control. They detect Su-24 and Su-25 later, but Su-30SM surprise them. I wonder if RuAF Su-30SM also have RAM coat like Su-34 and Su-35 have to reduce their RCS to around 1 m2. If correct, than this could prove, that Russian RAM works against western radars and combined with SAP-518 ECM pods Su-30SM could be a real problem for western fighters. I don't think export Su-30MKI/MKM have RAM coat, but domestic Su-30Sm could have.

medo wrote:It is quite interesting to see, how the west was surprised and no one actually know when and where Su-30SM fly to Syria and that no one actually detect them. Considering, that NATO have a lot of radars in Turkey and US have their radars in Jordan and full control of Iraqi air space through their coalition flights against ISIS and AWACS control. They detect Su-24 and Su-25 later, but Su-30SM surprise them. I wonder if RuAF Su-30SM also have RAM coat like Su-34 and Su-35 have to reduce their RCS to around 1 m2. If correct, than this could prove, that Russian RAM works against western radars and combined with SAP-518 ECM pods Su-30SM could be a real problem for western fighters. I don't think export Su-30MKI/MKM have RAM coat, but domestic Su-30Sm could have.

well they may have radars, nonetheless NCTR (Non Cooperative Target Recognition) Still not a common feature to today's radar especially air surveillance one. My guess however is that those Su-30's are detected but not identified or those Su-30's "tagging" along larger aircraft in such a distance that it cannot be resolved by the surveillance radar..the larger aircraft's RCS will mask those Su-30SM's

VMF Su-30SMs borts 40, 41 and 42 on their way to delivery at 43 OMShAP stationed in Saki, Crimea.
http://vonsolovey.livejournal.com/77514.html

mack8 wrote:VMF Su-30SMs borts 40, 41 and 42 on their way to delivery at  43 OMShAP stationed in Saki, Crimea.
http://vonsolovey.livejournal.com/77514.html

Confirmed today http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1498823.html

So 8 in total Su-30SMs for Naval Aviation

Naval squadron formed in the Crimea from the Su-30SMs

Currently, as part of the Black Sea Fleet Naval Aviation has 8 units of Su-30SM. In accordance with the plan of renovation of the fleet fighters should gradually replace the Sukhoi Su-24, which form the basis of the aviation component of the Black Sea Fleet.

Here says that last week Su-30SM also delivered. Does anyone have any info??

http://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12060394@egNews

First 2015 built Su-30SM for RuAF flew to Millerovo Air Base.

In the near future in the 31st Regiment Millerovo should fly 2 more ready Su-30SM.

Some interesting points:

1. This base composed of MiG-29s will be rearmed with Su-30SM and Su-35S
2. In addition, until the end of 2015 in Millerovo will put another new 16 Su-30SMs
3. Plans for the replacement by the end of 2016, of the MiG-29s of Russian airbase in Erebuni (Armenia) by new ordered MiG -29SMTs.
4. MiG-29 (aircraft types 9-12 and 9-13) career in the combat units of the RuAF has come to its end.

So all MiG-29's of old design will just be retired or are they going to be thoroughly uograded? Cause it looks like Russia is going for UBM as well, no? If not and they are just headed to storage, maybe it is in their best interest to donate working units or ones easily repairable to Syrian airforce.

sepheronx wrote:So all MiG-29's of old design will just be retired or are they going to be thoroughly uograded? Cause it looks like Russia is going for UBM as well, no?  If not and they are just headed to storage, maybe it is in their best interest to donate working units or ones easily repairable to Syrian airforce.

i think they are going to be retired. I think its too late for an upgrade program

George1 wrote:First 2015 built Su-30SM for RuAF flew to Millerovo Air Base.

In the near future in the 31st Regiment Millerovo should fly 2 more ready Su-30SM.

First pic of Su-30SM pieces for 31st fighter regiment

Su-30SM squadron was formed in Crimea

Russian Aviaton » Wednesday October 14, 2015 18:19 MSK

An independent assault aviation regiment of the Black Sea Fleet took delivery of three Su-30SM multi-role fighters, press-service of Russian Ministry of Defense reports.

“The jets are stationed at Saki airfield; their crews are preparing to perform flights in accordance with a program for putting new vehicles into service,” said in the statement.
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“At present naval aviation of the Black Sea Fleet operates 8 Su-30SM fighters. These jets form the Su-30SM squadron,” the press-service explained.

http://www.ruaviation.com/news/2015/10/14/3600/