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The deal is aimed at gradually switching to using national currencies in mutual trade, the ministry said.Trade turnover between the two countries grew by 16 percent last year, reaching $25.5 billion. wrote:

Kommersant: Arctic LNG-2 will be powered from a Turkish floating station

MOSCOW, August 10 – RIA Novosti. Novatek will order a floating power plant from Turkish company Karpowership to supply the first line of the Arctic LNG-2 plant under construction, informs The newspaper “Kommersant”.

Earlier, the publication reported that the American technology company Baker Hughes stopped serving all Russian LNG projects, recalled service engineers from a number of projects, and stopped the shipment of equipment for the Arctic LNG-2 under construction.

“Novatek has figured out how to solve the problem with the power supply of the first line of Arctic LNG-2. To do this, the company will order a floating power plant with a capacity of about 300-400 MW, powered by gas piston engines, from Turkish Karpowership,” said the newspaper. cited sources.
At the same time, the addressees of the publication found it difficult to specify the timing of the construction of a floating thermal power plant. It was stated that a similar power supply option could be used for the second and third lines of the LNG plant.

Arctic LNG-2 is Novatek’s second largest capacity liquefied natural gas production project after Yamal LNG. The resource base is the Utrenneye deposit in the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug. The project plans to build three technological lines, each with a capacity of 6.6 million tons (19.8 million tons of LNG per year).

sepheronx wrote:What?  Turkey makes floating power plants?

Russia is only one I'm aware of who makes such high powered floating plants with their nuclear one.

If I was government, I would stop that transaction fast and force novatek to buy local.

Edit: I am gonna wait for result.  I somehow doubt this story.  Kommoersant has been known for a lot of bs.

sepheronx wrote:

owais.usmani wrote:

sepheronx wrote:What?  Turkey makes floating power plants?

Russia is only one I'm aware of who makes such high powered floating plants with their nuclear one.

If I was government, I would stop that transaction fast and force novatek to buy local.

Edit: I am gonna wait for result.  I somehow doubt this story.  Kommoersant has been known for a lot of bs.

Its a ship based power plant and its not nuclear. Like this one:

Still, Not sure I believe the source.  Wouldn't make sense at all for Russia to buy from a shit country like Turkey.

sepheronx wrote:

Still, Not sure I believe the source.  Wouldn't make sense at all for Russia to buy from a shit country like Turkey.

sepheronx wrote:
Private is a strong word as they still get subsidies from the Russian government.  They aren't as private as you may think.

And I dont give two shits if the company from Turkey being doing this for 10 years.  Turkey is not a friend of Russia and that is obvious to anyone with half a brain.  I know you are far smarter than that.

Just absolutely stupid.  I hope Novatek gets hit hard from this to the point they have to dissolve as a company so someone else who has Russia's interests at heart takes over.

sepheronx wrote:

https://www.iisd.org/gsi/sites/default/files/ffs_awc_russia_yamalprirazlomnoe_en.pdf

Tax Breaks my friend.  That is their subsidies.

And I really dont care what they do.  For first response from people here who say "how can Russia allow such actions in Kazakhstan" by Owais for example, then proceeds to talk about how this is good is the very reason how situations like Kazakhstan happens.  Fund the enemy, they fund your allies to work against you and then you wonder how such situations arise?

Its hilarious how people cannot see the trees from the forrest.

For security reasons, its better to actually build a facility on land to power the LNG facilities if need be.

sepheronx wrote:This is why it's wrong and how Turkey is an enemy

System pesticide channel @pezdicide writes about Qirim News, which openly supports aggressive and pro-Ukrainian rhetoric on Crimea. Given the Turkish roots of the resource, such a position towards Russia is completely unsurprising.

After all, the Turkish Cooperation and Development Agency (TIKA), which owns the media, generally specializes in maintaining conflict moods in different regions of the world. The famous Turkish “soft power” is effective and at the same time aggressive, progressively seeking favor from the local population towards Turkey.

Here are just a few examples:

TIKA has been active in Tatarstan within the framework of the Turkology project, promoting the Turkish language, a common Turkic identity in local cultural centers.

The same can be said about Bashkiria, which is actively sought to tie to Turkey: through private entrepreneurs and the Chamber of Commerce, ideas of cooperation with the Turks are being promoted. This is also the basis for homegrown separatism.

TIKA is actively penetrating the Balkans, creating infrastructure for Muslim areas. This escalates the already difficult inter-ethnic relations due to the increasingly dense presence of the Turks.

At the same time, Turkey implements 4.1% of investment projects in Serbia, yielding in this indicator only to the EU countries, China and the United States. The presence of TIKA plays an important role in this, including through the creation of a cultural ground for such economic projects.

In the traditionally pro-Russian region of Gagauzia in Moldova, TIKA is opening kindergartens and helping build roads. The purpose of these simple actions is to turn the region into a stronghold of the Turkic world in the Northern Black Sea region.

TIKA is actively cooperating with Hungary, on whose territory the symbols of power of the Ottoman Empire are being restored.

Therefore, Crimea and the support of the radical part of the Crimean Tatars is only part of the overall strategy for the penetration of the Turks into strategically important regions.

And the distribution of a letter from the deputy chairman of the banned organization "Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar people" Nariman Dzhelyalov, in which he hopes for the return of Crimea to Ukraine, fits perfectly into this program.
#Russia #Turkey #Ukraine #separatism
@rybar

This is why No Turkish business needs to be allowed in Russia.  They are actively funding terrorism and separatism in Russia and abroad.  They are working hard with Kazakhstan.  it all has to do with it.  You cannot say there is no correlation.  When you provide money to them, they will use that money against you.

I never expected much from an American but you really do show yourself and lack of critical thinking.  I know, you guys see "money" and "private industry" but dont actually know what any of that means.  Tax exemptions to build means government funding so it isn't exactly private. But whatever, I am talking to a genius that Russian government should listen to.  A nation caught "unprepared" yet doing way better without leveling an entire fucking country than someone else we know.

Building facilities on land in the region might prove problematic due to melting permafrost. I guess this is why they decided to choose a ship.

If that was the case, then the LNG plant wouldn't be there as of right now which it is.  Don't disprove yourself so easily please.

sepheronx wrote:This is why it's wrong and how Turkey is an enemy

System pesticide channel @pezdicide writes about Qirim News, which openly supports aggressive and pro-Ukrainian rhetoric on Crimea. Given the Turkish roots of the resource, such a position towards Russia is completely unsurprising.

After all, the Turkish Cooperation and Development Agency (TIKA), which owns the media, generally specializes in maintaining conflict moods in different regions of the world. The famous Turkish “soft power” is effective and at the same time aggressive, progressively seeking favor from the local population towards Turkey.

Here are just a few examples:

TIKA has been active in Tatarstan within the framework of the Turkology project, promoting the Turkish language, a common Turkic identity in local cultural centers.

The same can be said about Bashkiria, which is actively sought to tie to Turkey: through private entrepreneurs and the Chamber of Commerce, ideas of cooperation with the Turks are being promoted. This is also the basis for homegrown separatism.

TIKA is actively penetrating the Balkans, creating infrastructure for Muslim areas. This escalates the already difficult inter-ethnic relations due to the increasingly dense presence of the Turks.

At the same time, Turkey implements 4.1% of investment projects in Serbia, yielding in this indicator only to the EU countries, China and the United States. The presence of TIKA plays an important role in this, including through the creation of a cultural ground for such economic projects.

In the traditionally pro-Russian region of Gagauzia in Moldova, TIKA is opening kindergartens and helping build roads. The purpose of these simple actions is to turn the region into a stronghold of the Turkic world in the Northern Black Sea region.

TIKA is actively cooperating with Hungary, on whose territory the symbols of power of the Ottoman Empire are being restored.

Therefore, Crimea and the support of the radical part of the Crimean Tatars is only part of the overall strategy for the penetration of the Turks into strategically important regions.

And the distribution of a letter from the deputy chairman of the banned organization "Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar people" Nariman Dzhelyalov, in which he hopes for the return of Crimea to Ukraine, fits perfectly into this program.
#Russia #Turkey #Ukraine #separatism
@rybar

This is why No Turkish business needs to be allowed in Russia.  They are actively funding terrorism and separatism in Russia and abroad.  They are working hard with Kazakhstan.  it all has to do with it.  You cannot say there is no correlation.  When you provide money to them, they will use that money against you.

I never expected much from an American but you really do show yourself and lack of critical thinking.  I know, you guys see "money" and "private industry" but dont actually know what any of that means.  Tax exemptions to build means government funding so it isn't exactly private. But whatever, I am talking to a genius that Russian government should listen to.  A nation caught "unprepared" yet doing way better without leveling an entire fucking country than someone else we know.

Building facilities on land in the region might prove problematic due to melting permafrost. I guess this is why they decided to choose a ship.

If that was the case, then the LNG plant wouldn't be there as of right now which it is.  Don't disprove yourself so easily please.

sepheronx wrote:Original Hungarians are of Turkic ethnicity, but i can assure you that nobody gives a shot abkut the fact in Hungary.