Iran's military reaction against USA - Israel in M.East

I already knew it was chest thumping the second I read the headline. Plus, you know, it's RT, the Russian Fox News.

Still, it's an interesting article so I thought I'd post it here anyways.

Well Rianews isn't so bad, if you don't mind the voices that is.

German expert

Iran's elite Revolutionary Guard has claimed it has shot down an Israeli drone trying to approach the Natanz nuclear zone in the centre of the country.

"The downed aircraft was of the stealth, radar-evasive type and it intended to penetrate the off-limits nuclear area in Natanz ... but was targeted by a ground-to-air missile before it managed to enter the area," Iran's state news agency ISNA said.

If confirmed, an aircraft built by Israel's state-owned Aerospace Industries known as the Heron, or the more powerful Heron TP, is likely to have been involved for such a long-range mission.

Military commanders in Israel have described both as a possible means of monitoring Iran and other countries.

The Natanz facility is one issue at the heart of a long-running dispute between Iran and countries that believe it is seeking nuclear weapons capability, something Tehran denies.

Iran and six world powers are trying to negotiate an end to the standoff which has led to damaging economic sanctions imposed on the Islamic Republic.

Israel, widely assumed to have the Middle East's only atomic arsenal, demands Iran be stripped of all nuclear technologies, something Tehran rules out and which most foreign diplomats deem unrealistic.

Iran has accused Israel and its allies of assassinating its nuclear scientists and attacking its nuclear sites with computer viruses.

Israel has always declined comment on such accusations and on Sunday its military said it did not comment on foreign reports.

The Revolutionary Guards said of the drone incursion: "This wily act further exposed the Zionist regime's adventurous temperament and added yet another black page to a record filled with crime and mischief."

In December 2012, Iran said it had captured a United States intelligence ScanEagle drone, but the US said at the time there was no evidence to support the assertion.

A year earlier, Iran said it had captured a US RQ-170 reconnaissance drone which was reported lost by US forces in neighbouring Afghanistan.

Iranian commanders have since announced they had extracted technology from the aircraft and were reverse-engineering it for their own defence industry.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-25/iran-says-it-shot-down-israeli-spy-drone/5693100

Several news agencies are reporting the same but as yet I have seen no pics to support.

Here is footage.

Werewolf wrote:Here is footage.

thanks dude.

Can the S-300 system deal with Israeli F-16i Sufa strike force?
Tensions already escalating since yesterday's announcement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d6HLHB8IbU

pacificfreeintel wrote:Can the S-300 system deal with Israeli F-16i Sufa strike force?
Tensions already escalating since yesterday's announcement.

Yes it can of course much would depend on the quantities used on both sides because if you put 200 planes vs 2 AD than it does not make sense although 2 AD can surprise still

if you would put equal streinght on defense and offense than things get much more interesting.

pacificfreeintel wrote:Can the S-300 system deal with Israeli F-16i Sufa strike force?
Tensions already escalating since yesterday's announcement.

They could. Iranian S-300 will not work alone, but integrated in Iranian IADS. Iran have their own long range OTH radars, which will detect Israeli planes in Israeli air space and a network of various domestic and imported EW radars, so Israeli or US fighters could not come there undetected and make a surprise attack. IADS will work with Iranian fighters and with SAMs. Iran produce domestic medium and long range SAMs like Patriot clone based on Standard missile. This one is in class with early S-300 versions.

medo wrote:

pacificfreeintel wrote:Can the S-300 system deal with Israeli F-16i Sufa strike force?
Tensions already escalating since yesterday's announcement.

They could. Iranian S-300 will not work alone, but integrated in Iranian IADS. Iran have their own long range OTH radars, which will detect Israeli planes in Israeli air space and a network of various domestic and imported EW radars, so Israeli or US fighters could not come there undetected and make a surprise attack. IADS will work with Iranian fighters and with SAMs. Iran produce domestic medium and long range SAMs like Patriot clone based on Standard missile. This one is in class with early S-300 versions.

Good point about IADS - Russia sold 29 Tor M1 systems to Iran in 2005 which defend at a lower range but with high accuracy - can take down a missile or bomb - the TOR M1 compliments the S-300 system.

However Israeli reports that Russia gave Israel the access codes for the TOR system. There is some belief that Israel used these codes to neutralize Syria's TOR M1 system when Israel bombed Syria's "nuclear reactor" in 2007. Do you believe that Russia would undermine its own technology?

When Iran "Deal" Falls Apart, The Pentagon Is Ready: America's Most Destructive "Bunker Buster" Gets An Upgrade


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-04/when-iran-deal-falls-apart-pentagon-ready-americas-most-destructive-bunker-buster-ge


The MOP is so strong, the WSJ compares its destructive force to a nuclear weapon:

Those upgraded electronic countermeasures, combined with improvements to the weapon’s guidance systems, will allow the weapon to be targeted with a precision previously possible only for far smaller guided bombs in the U.S. arsenal, the officials said. Steering two or more massive ordnance penetrators to a single entry point would have a devastating effect never before seen by a nonnuclear weapon, the officials said.



The White House has repeatedly said that Mr. Obama will need to look at other options if the nuclear talks break down. “If you say all options are on the table, you have to have something on the table that’s credible,” a senior U.S. official said.

Israel official: Military action against Iran still possible
Washington Post
JERUSALEM — A senior Israeli government minister on Monday warned that taking military action against Iran’s nuclear program is still an option — despite last week’s framework deal between world powers and the Islamic Republic.

The comments by Yuval Steinitz, Israel’s minister for strategic affairs, reflected the alarm in Israel over last week’s deal, which offers Iran relief from economic sanctions in exchange for scaling back its suspect nuclear program. Israeli leaders believe the framework leaves too much of Iran’s nuclear infrastructure intact and could still allow it to develop the means to produce a nuclear weapon.

Steinitz, a confidant of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s, said the government would spend the coming months lobbying the world powers negotiating with Iran to strengthen the language in the deal as they hammer out a final agreement. While stressing that Israel prefers a diplomatic solution, he said the “military option” still exists.

“It was on the table. It’s still on the table. It’s going to remain on the table,” Steinitz told reporters. “Israel should be able to defend itself, by itself, against any threat. And it’s our right and duty to decide how to defend ourselves, especially if our national security and even very existence is under threat.”

Israel considers a nuclear-armed Iran to be a threat to its survival, pointing to years of Iranian calls for Israel’s destruction, its support for anti-Israeli militant groups and its development of long-range ballistic missiles that could be armed with nuclear warheads. Israel — which is widely believed to be a nuclear power — says a nuclear-armed Iran would set off an arms race in the world’s most volatile region.

The framework agreement was announced last Thursday in Switzerland after years of negotiations between Iran and world powers.

The deal aims to cut significantly into Iran’s bomb-making technology while giving Tehran relief from international sanctions. The commitments, if implemented, would substantially pare down Iranian nuclear assets for a decade and restrict others for an additional five years. Iran would also be subject to intrusive international inspections.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/israel-official-military-action-against-iran-still-possible/2015/04/06/c6ed62f0-dc6c-11e4-b6d7-b9bc8acf16f7_story.html

Iran Could Raze Tel-Aviv to Ground if Israel Attacks – Top General

If Israel tries to attack Iran, Tehran will raze Tel-Aviv to the ground, a top Iranian general said.

Intelligence agencies of the United States and Israel are responsible for causing political unrest in the Middle East, said top Iranian Major General Yahya Rahim Safavi, according to the Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA).

The Zionists in the United States and Israel provoke separatism in the region with the help of different extremist groups, the Major General said.

If the Zionist regime continues to follow its aggressive policies in the Israeli-occupied territories, Safavi said that Hezbollah has 80,000 missiles that it can use against Israel.

Speaking about his country's security, the Major General boasted Iran is powerful enough militarily and therefore it can effectively defend itself against possible aggressors.

"If Iran is attacked, we will raze Tel-Aviv and Haifa to the ground. Iran and Hezbollah has enough potential to counter Zionist aggression," the General said, speaking on TV Wednesday night, cited by IRNA.

Safavi also said that Iran urges its regional neighbors to work collectively on security issues in the Middle East.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150521/1022423807.html#ixzz3aooj2uli

Can these missiles be countered by Iran if the US attacks it?

http://missilethreat.com/the-navys-little-missiles-could-be-popping-up-in-many-more-places/

Thanks Garry B for the response. You are always well informed and articulate.

andalusia wrote:Thanks Garry B for the response. You are always well informed and articulate.

Garry is the best man!!

USA or Israel can drop two nukes in Teheran if they will.

jka wrote:USA or Israel can drop two nukes in Teheran if they will.

Nope firstly Iran will not be a aggressor it'll be Israel ( using US forces) . It ain't that easy to drop nukes on a nation now as you'll be suffering global backlash moreover it will initiate a geopolitical war . #Wet dreams

GarryB wrote:

USA or Israel can drop two nukes in Teheran if they will.

Yeah... murdering millions of innocent people is certainly their favourite passtime, when they are not preaching to foreigners about how evil they are and why can't they all just accept and support their natural superiority in all things, they are murdering them with drones usually these days.

Plus the president killed in bunker if Israel drop one or two nukes in Teheran...