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ATOM Infantry Fighting Vehicle
magnumcromagnon- Posts : 8138
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Mike E- Posts : 2619
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What vehicle is that? - Is it the French/Russian one? Nevermind, it is that French Russian one....
Anyway, thanks for that great link P.I.!
Anyway, thanks for that great link P.I.!
magnumcromagnon- Posts : 8138
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Mike E wrote:What vehicle is that? - Is it the French/Russian one? Nevermind, it is that French Russian one....
Anyway, thanks for that great link P.I.!
Yes it's the ATOM IFV, and due to sanctions it will be completely domestically built on the Russian side, with UVZ willingness to produce the vehicle is an indication that they see potential in it:
http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2014/08/blog-post_14.html
Though I think some changes should be involved, such as changing the engine, gears and parts to be similar in spares/parts commonality to that of the Boomerang wheeled platform. Some people where complaining that the ATOM IFV sits to high giving it a larger profile, and while it's true it also has superior mine protection due to the higher profile, and APS (Active Protection System) plus PPS (Passive Protection System) should be able to make up for the higher profile. Personally I think ATOM IFV does have a place in Russia with some modifications to make the internal running parts to have commonality with the Boomerang platform, the MVD (The Ministry of Internal Affairs) could make good use of it in Dagestan.
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magnumcromagnon wrote:Mike E wrote:What vehicle is that? - Is it the French/Russian one? Nevermind, it is that French Russian one....
Anyway, thanks for that great link P.I.!
Yes it's the ATOM IFV, and due to sanctions it will be completely domestically built on the Russian side, with UVZ willingness to produce the vehicle is an indication that they see potential in it:
http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2014/08/blog-post_14.html
Though I think some changes should be involved, such as changing the engine, gears and parts to be similar in spares/parts commonality to that of the Boomerang wheeled platform. Some people where complaining that the ATOM IFV sits to high giving it a larger profile, and while it's true it also has superior mine protection due to the higher profile, and APS (Active Protection System) plus PPS (Passive Protection System) should be able to make up for the higher profile. Personally I think ATOM IFV does have a place in Russia with some modifications to make the internal running parts to have commonality with the Boomerang platform, the MVD (The Ministry of Internal Affairs) could make good use of it in Dagestan.
That is great to hear! I think most people were bummed that it was half French, but now that it will be indigenous it has potential. Even more so if it shares the Boomerang platform, or at least one related to it.
I completely agree... The more commonality the better, as long as the parts themselves are good, and I know they won't!
That is my only gripe about, the higher stance. However, as you said, protection systems should make up for it.
Mike E- Posts : 2619
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I didn't even know a new APC system was being worked on... 
Hopefully it will be properly utilized, because I feel like Arena wasn't utilized at all.
This new system, plus Armata's new armor, plus the "relict" ERA are going to make a heck of a combo! - This is somewhat unrelated, but do any of you know if the EMT-7 system or similar are going to be on future vehicles? It seems like a good asset, but I haven't found much on it...
Hopefully it will be properly utilized, because I feel like Arena wasn't utilized at all.
This new system, plus Armata's new armor, plus the "relict" ERA are going to make a heck of a combo! - This is somewhat unrelated, but do any of you know if the EMT-7 system or similar are going to be on future vehicles? It seems like a good asset, but I haven't found much on it...
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Personally I think ATOM IFV does have a place in Russia
With Boomerang platform - I think no.
Mike E- Posts : 2619
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It is good to not have all your eggs in one basket, and the ATOM is "another basket"... - Yes, I know that saying is overused.
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ATOM is a single vehicle... Boomerang is a family of vehicle types.
I rather suspect ATOM might compliment BTR-80s in the export market where the ATOM will be the top of the line vehicle while BTR-80s and BTR-82s will be the budget models.
I rather suspect ATOM might compliment BTR-80s in the export market where the ATOM will be the top of the line vehicle while BTR-80s and BTR-82s will be the budget models.
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Mike E- Posts : 2619
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The Atom's turret looks nice and small, the 57 mm gun looks huge in comparison...
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Whats the status of this truly amazing apc ATOM?Is it cancelled or not,because of the sanctions.It really looks awesome.
Mike E- Posts : 2619
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It will be continued as a Russia-only project, and should be based on the Armata platform.
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Mike do yo think its appearance will be changed.I mean if its going to be based on armata its probably going to change its size and everything else,what do you think?Mike E wrote:It will be continued as a Russia-only project, and should be based on the Armata platform.
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Maybe, maybe not... Chances are the the platform will be scaled to the Atom, and not vice-versa. The only change they are probably considering would be reducing the height, as it is a tall vehicle.
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ATOM in IDEX-2015
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Compare earlier pics of ATOM (such as the UVZ page you just linked yourself) to this UAE vehicle.
Just look at the wheel spacing, it's pretty obvious that the UAE vehicle is not ATOM...
Based on that wheel spacing, I actually suspect the UAE vehicle is derived from Serbian Lazar II.
Regardless, it is not billed as ATOM, nor linked to Nexter in any way. From Russian perspective, same basic concept though, I guess.
Just look at the wheel spacing, it's pretty obvious that the UAE vehicle is not ATOM...
Based on that wheel spacing, I actually suspect the UAE vehicle is derived from Serbian Lazar II.
Regardless, it is not billed as ATOM, nor linked to Nexter in any way. From Russian perspective, same basic concept though, I guess.
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AFAIK ATOM is a joint venture between Russia and France to fit the new 57mm high velocity gun on a wheeled French vehicle platform with the interest of selling to third parties who already operate French vehicles but might want an upgrade in fire power or chassis.
The photo above is AFAIK an attempt to upgrade UAE BMP-3s with a cheaper wheeled chassis that has simpler entry and exit options to the Russian tracked chassis... that is why it is fitted with the old model BMP-3 turret with a thermal sight added on the far side rather than a newer one like the KBP turret with upgraded gunner and commander thermal sights and new longer range ammo called Bakhcha ie http://www.kbptula.ru/index.php/en/productions/armament-for-light-and-hard-armour/bakhcha
The photo above is AFAIK an attempt to upgrade UAE BMP-3s with a cheaper wheeled chassis that has simpler entry and exit options to the Russian tracked chassis... that is why it is fitted with the old model BMP-3 turret with a thermal sight added on the far side rather than a newer one like the KBP turret with upgraded gunner and commander thermal sights and new longer range ammo called Bakhcha ie http://www.kbptula.ru/index.php/en/productions/armament-for-light-and-hard-armour/bakhcha
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Unpeaceful ATOM: Russia Rolls Out Killer Armored Vehicle
Russia’s tracked vehicle manufacturer UralVagonzavod is preparing to unveil a heavy armored wheeled vehicle, which is being as eagerly awaited as Russia’s all-new Armata tank.
Originally designed as part a collaboration effort with France’s Renault Trucks Defense Company, the ATOM heavy Infantry Fighting Vehicle (IFV) was to become the pinnacle of modern-day technology and a prime example of mutually-rewarding cooperation between Russian and European manufacturers.
After Renault Trucks Defense suspended its participation in the joint project, UralVagonzavod decided to go it alone producing one of the best armored vehicles money can buy.
The ATOM represents the plant’s first entry into the wheeled armored vehicle market, reflecting the company’s strategy in strengthening its traditional tracked vehicle production base with wheeled vehicle platforms, for which demand is stable (unlike tracked vehicles).
As a heavy vehicle platform, ATOM will be able to adapt to a number of applications, all based on a common chassis.
These include troop carriers, command vehicles, combat electronic vehicle, combat engineering and recovery, and fire support platforms, mounting various weapon systems, from the 57mm cannon to the 120mm gun-mortar.
The ATOM 8x8 IFV features an overhead unmanned turret armed with a 57mm automatic gun, which is capable of engaging light armored and soft targets with a firing rate of 300 rounds per minute and an effective firing range of up to six kilometers.
It is powered by a 600hp diesel engine, which features an automatic gearbox and transmission with independent suspension. The IFV is propelled in water by a pair of propellers fitted on the sides of the rear hull.
It has a maximum speed of 100km/h and an unrefueled range of 750km, with a ground clearance of 600mm and features run-flat tires. The vehicle can be air dropped using Il-76 aircraft.
The ATOM features an all-welded hull with modular armor plates. Its cabin accommodates three crew members and up to eight troops along with equipment. It has one rear ramp, and four roof hatches for entry and exit.
The IFV is designed to provide transportation for motorized infantry subdivisions during combat missions and in battlegrounds.
The vehicle can be customized to make it suitable for deployment in different operations. It is available in different variants including troop transport vehicle, ambulance, breakdown vehicle, and armored police vehicle.
The combat weight of the vehicle is 32 tons and the maximum payload carrying capacity is 7 tons.
The ATOM IFV will be presented at the Russian Arms Expo (RAE) exhibition to be held at Nizhny Tagil on September 9-12.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150901/1026448349/UralVagonzavod-IFV-features.html#ixzz3kWf9QN6L
Russia’s tracked vehicle manufacturer UralVagonzavod is preparing to unveil a heavy armored wheeled vehicle, which is being as eagerly awaited as Russia’s all-new Armata tank.
Originally designed as part a collaboration effort with France’s Renault Trucks Defense Company, the ATOM heavy Infantry Fighting Vehicle (IFV) was to become the pinnacle of modern-day technology and a prime example of mutually-rewarding cooperation between Russian and European manufacturers.
After Renault Trucks Defense suspended its participation in the joint project, UralVagonzavod decided to go it alone producing one of the best armored vehicles money can buy.
The ATOM represents the plant’s first entry into the wheeled armored vehicle market, reflecting the company’s strategy in strengthening its traditional tracked vehicle production base with wheeled vehicle platforms, for which demand is stable (unlike tracked vehicles).
As a heavy vehicle platform, ATOM will be able to adapt to a number of applications, all based on a common chassis.
These include troop carriers, command vehicles, combat electronic vehicle, combat engineering and recovery, and fire support platforms, mounting various weapon systems, from the 57mm cannon to the 120mm gun-mortar.
The ATOM 8x8 IFV features an overhead unmanned turret armed with a 57mm automatic gun, which is capable of engaging light armored and soft targets with a firing rate of 300 rounds per minute and an effective firing range of up to six kilometers.
It is powered by a 600hp diesel engine, which features an automatic gearbox and transmission with independent suspension. The IFV is propelled in water by a pair of propellers fitted on the sides of the rear hull.
It has a maximum speed of 100km/h and an unrefueled range of 750km, with a ground clearance of 600mm and features run-flat tires. The vehicle can be air dropped using Il-76 aircraft.
The ATOM features an all-welded hull with modular armor plates. Its cabin accommodates three crew members and up to eight troops along with equipment. It has one rear ramp, and four roof hatches for entry and exit.
The IFV is designed to provide transportation for motorized infantry subdivisions during combat missions and in battlegrounds.
The vehicle can be customized to make it suitable for deployment in different operations. It is available in different variants including troop transport vehicle, ambulance, breakdown vehicle, and armored police vehicle.
The combat weight of the vehicle is 32 tons and the maximum payload carrying capacity is 7 tons.
The ATOM IFV will be presented at the Russian Arms Expo (RAE) exhibition to be held at Nizhny Tagil on September 9-12.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150901/1026448349/UralVagonzavod-IFV-features.html#ixzz3kWf9QN6L
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I am not sure why they continued develop of this vehicle, from what i am aware they are not able now to obtain chasis which is of French origin, unless they want to offer it for export as such in deal with French and use weapon module on Kurganec 25 in future.
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UVZ take design make the new
No need the france
No need the france
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Book. wrote:UVZ take design make the new
No need the france
You are right. I always liked the project. I think it can be successful in the following decades.
http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150901/1026448349/UralVagonzavod-IFV-features.html