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    Post  starman Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:30 pm

    Isos wrote:Don't know where to put this but it involves iran, pakistan and india. Looks like india will get a new ally against pakistan.

    I suppose after the attack Iran has to do something. But at a time when Iran is already involved on two other fronts, and its revenues are down, it may not be wise to alienate Pakistan, or side with India--which has long been aligned with Israel.
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    Post  Isos Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:40 pm

    starman wrote:
    Isos wrote:Don't know where to put this but it involves iran, pakistan and india. Looks like india will get a new ally against pakistan.

    I suppose after the attack Iran has to do something. But at a time when Iran is already involved on two other fronts, and its revenues are down, it may not be wise to alienate Pakistan, or side with India--which has long been aligned with Israel.

    India buys israeli weapons. Nothing more. They also buy iranian oil while giving no fuck about US sanctions. And they desperatly needs an ally against pakistan. Indian was in a sandwich between pak and china and now Pakistan is in the same situation.

    Pakistan is no better. At least Iran has proven missiles able to hit them. Pakistan not so much and they can't use nuks so ...
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    Post  nomadski Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:37 pm


    ........or the machine you are sending it to !
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    Post  GarryB Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:49 am

    But then the chess game can easily turn into three dimensional chess too... let them capture fake machines or codes... send lots of different coded messages that are meaningless mixed in with the real coded messages... they will be busy reading the rubbish bits while the person it is intended for can read the real message because they know where to look.

    I mean one method is hiding messages inside jpg images.

    The message is not visible in the image, but is stored by changing the order the pixel information is recorded in the image file... you can have small messages encrypted in an image file like a photo or even icon on a web page... with the message in it or without the message the image looks exactly the same... the information is recorded based on the order the pixel information is recorded in the jpg file... it can be password protected and encrypted as well as being hidden... it might be an emoji in an email...
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    Post  nomadski Wed May 01, 2019 8:06 pm

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/en.mehrnews.com/amp/128459/

    There you go . A lot you can do with 150 kg . Even if the yank use very long range stealth cruise missiles . Or B2 or F111 or B52 OR even ICBM .  Iran can retaliate against US mainland . Now say hip hip hooray !
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    Post  yavar Thu May 09, 2019 4:29 pm

    Iran Supreme National Security Council: Iran suspended some commitment in JCPOA (Iran nuclear deal) and gives 60 days to EU before further Action
    https://en.mehrnews.com/news/145010/Iran-gives-JCPOA-parties-60-days-before-reducing-further-commitments

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    Post  GarryB Fri May 10, 2019 4:48 am

    All the European companies that have withdrawn from deals with Iran because they are afraid of sanctions from the US... what they should have said is that the EU has defacto imposed sanctions on Iran so we will reduce our compliance to this treaty for 60, by which time if normal relations have not resumed we will assume the EU wants to violate the agreement and we will fully withdraw and start to make us some nukes...
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    Post  yavar Fri May 10, 2019 3:38 pm


    Iran President Rouhani: EU failure in INSTEX (oil and Banking trade) after 60 days period will led to cancelling enrichment level, China failure in JCPOA (Iran nuclear deal) start work on Arak reactor IR40 after 60 days period will meet with father action



    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x77yi5j

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    Post  yavar Fri May 10, 2019 4:27 pm


    EU rejects 'ultimatums' from Iran over nuclear deal JCPOA
    https://www.euronews.com/2019/05/09/eu-rejects-ultimatums-from-iran-over-nuclear-deal-eu-statement


    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x77ynug
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    Post  nomadski Fri May 10, 2019 7:08 pm

    It was better  , if , instead of withdrawing from parts of the deal , to build some ICBM with nuke warhead and display them in army parades . At the same time as blocking oil from Hormuz . Until  ALL  non US sanctions  are lifted . The yanks can keep out of Iran themselves,  if they like .

    This announcement gives chance to yanks to attack Iran , while knowing Iran probably does not have nukes . It was a bad move . Also going back to pre JCPOA situation for Iran , does not make sense . Nor does a return to JCPOA situation , as both avenues failed . Nuclear ambiguity  did not work . Sanctions existed before .

    Iran should move to new position . The establishment of a minimum nuclear deterrent  . Iran should display this force openly . It is harmful for Iran to declare now that it has no interest in making nukes . No one  will believe them , and it smells of weakness . And gives chance for attack against  Iran .

    Also Iranian commanders keep saying , Iran faces no threat . Yet Iranian leaders urge maximum readiness. Iranians should  be realistic in public announcements , make ready for defence  . But also warn enemy of an attack to block Hormuz.  And that they will attack yanks , if they intervened .

    Iran should openly say , they are arming regional national forces , to evict yanks from region . In Iraq and Syria and even Afghanistan . Iran should form resistance groups , in Afghanistan against yank occupation . The overall response from Iran is weak  . Battle formations need maximum resistance.  This is not a diplomatic discussion . People in Iran are dying from lack of medications . And soon another Yemen ....
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    Post  GarryB Sat May 11, 2019 5:35 am

    Simply changed parameters in complex coding can be very effective.

    Exactly... very well trained troops can adapt to situations and use tactics to improve effectiveness when an enemy learns to cope with your existing methods you need to be able to make changes to counter their adaptations.

    Iran should move to new position . The establishment of a minimum nuclear deterrent . Iran should display this force openly . It is harmful for Iran to declare now that it has no interest in making nukes . No one will believe them , and it smells of weakness . And gives chance for attack against Iran .

    Iran should state that up until the 60 day deadline they have complied with the agreement in good faith while the US has withdrawn and reneged on its promises and the EU is also not delivering on promises for trade and investment, so after the 60 day deadline they will pursue nuclear parity with the only nuclear powers in the region... the US and Israel...

    They can state their interests are ignored and rights as a sovereign nation are being violated with illegal sanctions unilaterally imposed by hostile countries and because of this they can see their only solution to US and Saudi Aggression is nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them.

    The west has 60 days to decide which way they want the situation to go... either drop the sanctions and provide a free trade environment, or accept that in a short time a nuclear armed Iran.
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    Post  nomadski Sat May 11, 2019 1:03 pm


    Agree . The P5+1 must admit that they failed . That the security council failed . That the security council has become a vehicle of interest for USA and new economic allies and big power houses . Trampling under foot the vital and national interests of smaller nations and groups . Failure to secure economic prosperity or political solutions or national security . This runs counter to justice for the nations . Leads to war .
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    Post  yavar Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:56 am

    US officials expecting Iran to launch rocket in coming days







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    Post  GarryB Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:52 am

    Wow... what an arrogant country Iran is... America does not want them to have satellites or ICBMs, yet Iran is going ahead and developing satellite launch platforms in violation of Americas interests... is that actually against international law?

    Iran has signed no agreement not to develop its space launch industry.

    Suggesting Iran is developing weapons against America because Trump is being too soft on Iran is hilarious... first of all without any evidence they are actually making weapons... the evidence shown suggests they want to launch satellites.

    If Trump had kept to the agreement signed by Obama then Iran would not be the problem.

    If you beat a dog and slap a dog and stop feeding it and stop others from feeding it... you can bet your ass the first chance it gets it will bite you and why wouldn't it.

    Iran is not a dog... I am surprised they haven't attacked you yet... they have shown great restraint... something america never does.
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:20 pm

    GarryB wrote:

    If you beat a dog and slap a dog and stop feeding it and stop others from feeding it... you can bet your ass the first chance it gets it will bite you and why wouldn't it.

    Iran is not a dog... I am surprised they haven't attacked you yet... they have shown great restraint... something america never does.

    The next pressure point is likely to be the tanker, free but holed up off Gibraltar, on its trip across the Med given the US seizure order (on which they seem to have cocked up with the date) which may be implemented by the USN regardless of International Law.

    If they do there must be a good chance that Iran will close the Straits. Which may be the US intentions of course.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:36 am

    Wonder if there is an Iran friendly military vessel nearby that could escort it for its trip?

    I mean Russia and Iran are not best friends but having a tiny Russian corvette escort the tanker preventing the USN from taking it would be very amusing and satisfying.
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    Post  nomadski Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:10 pm



    Not late to post latest parade. Makes you proud. Absent was S200 and S300. But Bavar 373 was displayed. But contrary to this, chieftain with new digital camo was displayed . And new karrar Tank was displayed !  Under circumstances where English Bank holding  ( stealing) money for payment for this Tank and English pirates hijack oil Tanker and English spy in prison and....... and. But we trade with Russia with new payment system and they build nuclear plant and we fight together in Syria and...... and. So in future must either not display either S200  or S300 and chieftain or display both. Or better display S300 but NOT chieftain!
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    Post  crod Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:57 am

    It’s being reported that an Iranian oil tanker has been struck by 2 missiles off Saudi Arabia. The tanker is heavily damaged, burning and leaking oil.
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    Post  nomadski Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:42 am


    Yes. But some Iranian news reported no incident took place! Since Saudi do not take credit for this attack, then they just want to negotiate from position of "streangth"! Similar to Saudi oil Tanker being hit in sea of Oman. Iran did it but did not take responsibility. Since they want to negotiate from position of " streangth"! So these days it is no longer gun boat Diplomacy but oil Tanker burning Diplomacy! LOL. They better forget this show and talk........
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    Post  nomadski Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:45 am

    https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2019/11/17/2142020/intelligence-ministry-detects-main-elements-of-unrest-in-iran

    The Iranian authorities are wrong in identification of cause and source of recent troubles in Iran. They are also wrong in the way they are addressing the problems. Since they have misidentified the cause of the problems.

    Since imposition of severe sanctions, it was unclear if Iran would survive these measures. There was hope that oil could be sold and Russia and China would help. But it looks like these measures have not materialised or are not enough to save the economy and keep people off the streets.

    And the Iranian commanders keep saying that Yanks do not dare fire shot against us. But Iranian cancer patients die. And desperate demonstrators are shot to keep public order.

    Yet it is not the fault of the cancer patient for dying. Nor is it the fault of the medic for not being able to save their life without medications. And it is not the fault of the desperate people for demonstrating and it is not the fault of security forces to try to keep safe by shooting.

    So it is the fault of the Americans and Europeans. They are the cause of these deaths and killings. And the Iranians should identify the cause and remove the cause of these problems.

    In this loose / loose scenario, the criminal perpetrators have not suffered any casualties. And as far as this continues then the problem will remain. So the Iranians need maximum power. To inflict loss and pain.
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    Post  GarryB Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:55 pm

    Perhaps China and Russia could assist with cancer drugs and other medicines?

    As well as boosting trade...

    Russia sells oil and could easily buy Iranian oil and mix it in with their own product so there would be no way to tell where any particular load of oil originated from... I doubt the US could put sanctions on all Russian oil and if they did Russia could put return sanctions on Titanium for the US... and refuse to sell Titanium for a few decades to the Americans. Or just add a 50% tariff on the price of Russian Titanium in direct sales to US customers... then the US will have to start buying their Titanium from third parties... with a price mark up of course... that is free market capitalism isn't it?

    Europe has proven it is part of the problem and will not be part of the solution... China and Russia and India and Brazil and South Africa are all coming to the realisation that they all need alternative trade partners that don't include the US or the west... we are simply not reliable.
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    Post  nomadski Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:29 am

    Part of the solution seems to be positive action by political leadership in Russia and China. Since international business is constrained by economic interests. No business risking sanctions by trading with Iran. So as you said Russia can buy Iranian oil. But for domestic and internal use. And it can sell more of it's own  oil and gas to Europe. To Iran's previous European customers of Greece and Italy etc. These states having no problems in buying Russian oil. The risk by an entire country or government is less of a burden than a single business.

    But is it enough to get Iranian economy going? This remains to be seen. I said many times that Iran should not allow it's security to be disturbed by sanctions. And that the time to retaliate should be before this time.

    There are some in Iran, that still misidentify the cause of these disturbances to be the Iranian people or political leadership or security forces. The story of the frog in boiling water. Cooking to death.

    But it seems some have identified correctly the right course of action. At present time. No delay!

    https://en.mehrnews.com/news/152779/No-longer-facing-threat-of-war-time-for-Iran-s-counterattack

    NB : Best to avoid confrontation with yank slaves. Even if this is easier and tempting. If for example Saudi do not get direct hit from Iran, then they have chance to avoid war with Iran. Therefore Saudi soil not available for American Air power. A great disadvantage for them. The Yanks then having to rely on carriers in Indian Ocean. Very vulnerable and limited force. Also the cause of this problems is multi - millionaire in USA. The Liberal order. They must loose interests first in region. No point in wrong target of average citizen or GI .
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    Post  nomadski Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:44 am

    https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2020/06/08/2281852/defense-ministry-to-boost-iranian-police-capabilities

    Good. Now entire police needs training in modern crowd control.

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/police/Methods-of-crowd-policing

    Most Europe country do this.

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    Post  nomadski Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:08 pm

    https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2020/06/09/2282639/cia-spy-who-gathered-intel-on-gen-soleimani-s-whereabouts-sentenced-to-death

    Article relates to supposed spy, who related info on locations of military Brass to Yank and Usrael. Interestingly ministry of justice says, case not related to recent assassination of General. But old case. Some media are hard at work, proclaiming that the " murderer of General" is to be executed in public! But General's  location was not secret. He was sent by leadership. As envoy. Everyone knew. Also linking this "spy" directly as murderer of General by media, very strange. The murderer  was Trump. So it looks like, some are trying to appease the public, by executing some culprit, who was " directly responsible". And drawing a line under this crime. Why spy not executed before? If old case?  The Camouflages continue.

    Well, to make sense of it all. It is a little convoluted. No question about who imposed the war of sanctions against Iran. No question who started a hot war, by killing General. No question that Ukraine plane shot down was in very mysterious situation. No question that some used this as diversion to hide the killing of General. No question that black box is being handed over to Ukraine, with all the secrets. And  plumpy Trump happy about it. No question  Iran trying to hand over all US detainees. No question now diversion used to appease public opinion, by execution of  the " responsible spy". No question about present government weak approach.


    But reality is, that until US bases remain around Iran, they pose a threat. That until at least secondary  sanctions lifted, Iran facing economic hardship and political instability. That until Iran make a Nuke detterent, that warmongers will not relent. That until Iran government abandons defeatism and appeasement, the Yanks will not back off.

    Saying we will persue the criminals responsible for killing is much better. But saying this plot was discovered four months ago, still leaves the question, why security was not improved for General. Or better still, why was he sent, when he was so important for Iran?

    But it is good to hear judiciary talking about economic crimes. But also Iranian law must distinguish between a person's political beliefs or religion, however different or strange that must be respected . To any action that supports violence or theft or is otherwise a crime, under criminal and civil law. If a person verbally or practically supports an armed group that engages in violence and killing or theft , then irrespective of motive, being political or economic, then they are treated equally. Or if a person throws abuse at political or religious  person, however high , then it is no different to a person that throws abuse at their neighbour or on the street. The punishments are equal. This allows for freedom of thought and expression and legitimate activity. And is also a means to limit criminal activity.
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    Post  crod Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:07 am

    Big explosion near Tehran military base. No real info on it yet. Thought to be close to gas storage and away from the military end of things.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/26/iran-authorities-investigate-large-explosion-near-tehran?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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