Russian MRLS: Grad, Uragan, Smerch, Tornado-G/S

magnumcromagnon wrote:Technically a mine layer, but it operates like MLRS, set to be debuted at the 2020 Victory Day parade. It looks like Grad/Tornado-G, but it's probably more offshoot of Tornado-G than Grad. Tornado-G is having 100km range rockets being introduced, but a dedicated mine laying vehicle being created suggested a much reduced range in favor of a much greater supply of submunitions, so instead of having 100km range, it could have 10km range but with double the supply of bomblets.

The system of remote installation of mines "Agriculture": creatively approached the name


In Russia, the final stage of testing the new multiple launch rocket system "Agriculture", designed for remote installation of mines. Remote Mining Engineering System (ISDM) includes combat and transport-loading vehicles, as well as transport and launch containers.

Transport and launch containers contain engineering ammunition that meets the requirements of the Geneva Convention regarding their subsequent self-destruction.

The combat vehicle is a volley fire system with fifty guides of 122 mm caliber. It is capable of using various types of mines: both anti-personnel and anti-tank. Before the salvo set flight mission and parameters for the self-destruction of ammunition.

The range of "Agriculture" is 5-15 kilometers, which allows mining in the most safe and maneuverable way at a remote distance.

The developer of the new technology is the NPO Splav.

It is also known that a combat vehicle can install a new generation of mines. Perhaps we are talking about the "smart" mines POM-3, which were reported back in 2016. Thanks to a special electronic filling, such mines are able to recognize targets and work only when necessary. For example, they ignore animals and vehicles and respond only to humans.

KamAZ vehicles with armored cabs equipped with air filtration and ventilation systems, as well as air conditioners, are used as a chassis for “Agriculture”.

The system was officially introduced for the first time on June 24 at a parade in honor of the 75th anniversary of the Great Victory, which took place in Moscow on Red Square. Two combat and two transport-loading vehicles took part there. But even before that, “Agriculture” could be observed during rehearsals.

Now the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are armed with universal mine-clearances (UMZ) based on the chassis of ZIL-131 vehicles, the maximum radius of which is 100 meters. There is also a helicopter mining system VSM-1 based on Mi-8, which can be used from a height of not more than 150 meters.

In the 70s, on the basis of MLRS Grad and Hurricane already tried to create a similar system with a range of up to 30 kilometers, but it was ineffective due to low accuracy and high cost of ammunition.

The team of authors in terms of name approached the process creatively. According to some reports, the "agrarian" theme prevailed initially. For example, the Sower option was proposed. But in the end, the remote mining system became "Agriculture."

https://topwar.ru/172529-armija-rf-poluchit-innovacionnuju-sistemu-distancionnoj-ustanovki-min-zemledelie.html

Hole wrote:The MRLS on the pic is an Uragan-1M. The Tornado-S looks like the Smerch.

The aforementioned tactical and technical advantages allow the advanced missiles of the 9M528 and 9M542 line not only to hit the command and staff infrastructure, as well as the enemy mechanized subunits advancing to the active sector of the theater of operations in an operational depth of about 150 km, but also to easily disable the radars of illumination and guidance AN / MPQ-53 long-range anti-aircraft missile systems "Patriot PAC-2 GEM-T" due to the use of ballistic or quasi-ballistic flight trajectories, the terminal section of which will be a dive from the upper stratosphere at angles of more than 75-83 ° (outside the elevation sector of the radar view illumination and guidance of the MPQ-53, ranging from 1 to 73 degrees). wrote:

Looks like new guided munitions for Smerch.

satellite guidance Units for unguided 300 mm rocket artillery shells MLRS "Tornado-S" (Smerch). It is a GLONASS satellite receiver(GPS) with controls. The unit is independent in flight, i.e. it does not rotate together with the entire projectile and is stable on a roll. According to the developer, it allows you to increase the accuracy by 15-20 times, i.e. the CEP is no more than 10-20 m at the maximum distance.

https://vk.com/milinfolive?w=wall-123538639_1525963

Isos wrote:They were late on this one. Serbia has the Sumadija and Belorussia has the Polonezh with greater ranges than this russian rocket.


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Izvestia reports that the Tornado-S MLRS tested a new long-range PGM during the exercise earlier this month. Its developers have said it will be able to strike targets at 200km eventually, and each missile in a salvo can strike a different target. 9/

The-thing-next-door wrote:The Smerch has a maximum range of 300km, so if theos rockets you talked about have half the range of the Iskander than they have less range than the Smerch.

GarryB wrote:I think people get caught up in terms of range and forget what rocket based artillery is for... what is the likelyhood of a Smerch unit getting requests to hit targets 3 or 400km away from their position?

Designing a rocket with enormous range is not that difficult but you end up making the rocket bigger and heavier than it needs to be while at the same time having to limit the payload which is the whole purpose of the weapon... to deliver the payload in volume to a target area...

GarryB wrote:Designing a rocket with enormous range is not that difficult but you end up making the rocket bigger and heavier than it needs to be while at the same time having to limit the payload which is the whole purpose of the weapon... to deliver the payload in volume to a target area...

The point is that using nuclear warheads with your long range MRLS rockets allows you to literally flatten every manmade thing in half of poland ind ukraine within minutes, qite useful when you need to kull a horde such as nato.

You will probably say "but they have Iskanders and Kalibrs for that" but tell me, do you honestly think that they will have enough of thoes to fire at any potential staging area in eastern europe in sufficient quantities to kill any potential military formations?

RTN wrote:

GarryB wrote:Designing a rocket with enormous range is not that difficult but you end up making the rocket bigger and heavier than it needs to be while at the same time having to limit the payload which is the whole purpose of the weapon... to deliver the payload in volume to a target area...

These Tornado -S guided rockets will be intercepted by NATO by using the SkyShield AD system.

The state of the art AHEAD projectile is programmed by a muzzle based electromagnetic inductor, which sets an electronic timer to activate and separate the projectile into 152 heavy tungsten metal spin-stabilized sub-projectiles (3.3 gram each), forming a lethal cone shaped metal cloud, placed ahead of the target in its flight path.

https://www.rheinmetall-defence.com/en/rheinmetall_defence/public_relations/news/detail_1359.php

Isos wrote:
It's still a 35mm gun with an effective range of 3 or so km.

Russia isn't Hamas or Hezbollah. They don't launch two or three rockets per salvo. They usually have around ten MLRS firing all their rockets at the same time. When the guys in that gun AD system will see hundreds of small targets coming at them they will run away as fast as they can.

RTN wrote:

Isos wrote:
It's still a 35mm gun with an effective range of 3 or so km.

Russia isn't Hamas or Hezbollah. They don't launch two or three rockets per salvo. They usually have around ten MLRS firing all their rockets at the same time. When the guys in that gun AD system will see hundreds of small targets coming at them they will run away as fast as they can.

NATO isn't Hamas or Hezbollah either. Hundreds of incoming Russian MLRS will be intercepted by a few hundred Sky Shield fired AHEAD rounds.

RTN wrote:

Isos wrote:
It's still a 35mm gun with an effective range of 3 or so km.

Russia isn't Hamas or Hezbollah. They don't launch two or three rockets per salvo. They usually have around ten MLRS firing all their rockets at the same time. When the guys in that gun AD system will see hundreds of small targets coming at them they will run away as fast as they can.

NATO isn't Hamas or Hezbollah either. Hundreds of incoming Russian MLRS will be intercepted by a few hundred Sky Shield fired AHEAD rounds.