S-400 SAM for India

Austin wrote:There are rumours on news of Indian AirForce insterested in S-400

here is an article from Prasun Sengupta , not terribly accurate but FWIW

The IAF’s Perception Management Disconnect & Its Plans For TMD

http://trishul-trident.blogspot.in/2015/10/the-iafs-perception-management.html

Tolstoy wrote:Integrating Israeli Radars with S 400? Seriously?

max steel wrote:HOW EFFECTIVE ARE ISRAELI RADARS?

Austin wrote:Indian Defence Minister confirms , India in Talks to buy S-400 from Russia.

Will we get the 40N6 missile ?

http://tass.ru/en/defense/832683

jhelb wrote:

Austin wrote:Indian Defence Minister confirms , India in Talks to buy S-400 from Russia.

Will we get the 40N6 missile ?

http://tass.ru/en/defense/832683

The missile is good to go so I see no reason why India can't have it. Even China is supposed to get the 40N6. As a matter of fact they specifically asked for it.

There could be issues with other missiles. India may or may not get the 77N6-N and 77N6-N1.  

Austin wrote:

jhelb wrote:

Austin wrote:Indian Defence Minister confirms , India in Talks to buy S-400 from Russia.

Will we get the 40N6 missile ?

http://tass.ru/en/defense/832683

The missile is good to go so I see no reason why India can't have it. Even China is supposed to get the 40N6. As a matter of fact they specifically asked for it.

There could be issues with other missiles. India may or may not get the 77N6-N and 77N6-N1.  

AFAIK 77N6-N and N1 are not part of S-400 but S-500 system

chicken wrote:If I recall, both S-400 and S-500 will get both missiles since the two systems have different objectives. Forgot where but probably old mp.net posts.

By 2014, Russia will launch two major plants producing hypersonic missiles, 77N6-N and 77N6-N1, for its state-of-the-art anti-missile defence systems, S-400 Triumph and S-500 Prometheus.

Pinto wrote:The 5 systems for 6 b$ ? will the 5 systems be enough for india to guard its borders with apkistan and china both ?

Pinto wrote:The 5 systems for 6 b$ ? will the 5 systems be enough for india to guard its borders with apkistan and china both ?

Pinto wrote:The 5 systems for 6 b$ ? will the 5 systems be enough for india to guard its borders with apkistan and china both ?

Militarov wrote:

Pinto wrote:The 5 systems for 6 b$ ? will the 5 systems be enough for india to guard its borders with apkistan and china both ?

This math is bad or this report is not full. China is paying 3 billion for 6 divisions (batallions, depends how each army classifies it) each having 8 launchers. Which makes it what, around 500 million per batallion with equipment, missiles etc. It simply cant be true that India is paying 6 billion for 5. Its believed Russia is paying around 200 million per batallion S400 for domestic use.

Also 5 "systems" is very unusual statement, it can be only 5 batteries/batallions. So that would make it 40 launchers if we take the most optimistic variant. Should be enough to cover half of India.

Pinto wrote:

Militarov wrote:

Pinto wrote:The 5 systems for 6 b$ ? will the 5 systems be enough for india to guard its borders with apkistan and china both ?

This math is bad or this report is not full. China is paying 3 billion for 6 divisions (batallions, depends how each army classifies it) each having 8 launchers. Which makes it what, around 500 million per batallion with equipment, missiles etc. It simply cant be true that India is paying 6 billion for 5. Its believed Russia is paying around 200 million per batallion S400 for domestic use.

Also 5 "systems" is very unusual statement, it can be only 5 batteries/batallions. So that would make it 40 launchers if we take the most optimistic variant. Should be enough to cover half of India.

well yes 5 battalions makes sense to cover both western and eastern front.

looks like exact numbers bought might remain unknown because if 500m$ cost for each battery then it works out be 2.5 b$ but here the number seems to be much higher as deal is expected to cost 6b$

Pinto wrote:lol well right journalists do go over board and we are going to see some such more news as visit of Indian PM is still a week away. But one thing looks sure is numbers might be higher for India as all other deals are seprate like T90 tanks spares and more tanks, lease of another akula class subs for 1.5 b$ and 5 naval ships too probably talwar class. Russia must activate its all marketing offices and political acumen too now as deals woth 12b$ for 5-6 more subs is going to be finalized soon

New Delhi: The government on Thursday approved the Rs 39,000-crore acquisition of five advanced Russian S-400 Triumf air defence missile systems, which have even rattled NATO countries because they can destroy incoming hostile aircraft, stealth fighters, missiles and drones at ranges of up to 400 km.

Then, as earlier reported by TOI, India is also on course to acquire a second nuclear-powered submarine on a $1.5 billion lease from Russia. Indian Navy had inducted the first Akula-II submarine, christened INS Chakra, on a 10-year lease from Russia in April 2012, under a secret $900 million deal inked way back in January 2004.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Government-clears-purchase-of-Rs-39000cr-Russian-missile-systems/articleshow/50226062.cms

There are potentially 50B$ deals pending with Russia if we includes FGFA to be signed during this visit too and  if flambyount Indian journalism is to be believed there were reports that russia has tied S400 deal with FGFA.......lol

There have been some reports too that 12 missiles batteries are to be procured by india then 6 b$ makes sens at 500m$ each

http://sputniknews.com/military/20151011/1028361087/india-may-buy-russian-s400.html

Pinto wrote:This newspaper showing figure at 65000 cr means 10b$ plus so its now certain that this amount includes other deals too including another akula class nuclear submarine for 1.5 b$ plus other deals to be finalised

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/151218/nation-current-affairs/article/rs-65000-crore-missile-deal-russia