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Mi-28N Havoc: News
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DerWolf wrote:Does the Mi-28 have the President-S system, I haven't noticed it? Ka-52 already have it, but i find strange a modern attack helicopter like mi-28 not to have that.
If you order it with President you will get it, its not considered as standard package. Ofc you can choose only parts and subsystems of whole President to be installed and not whole thing, depends on what you want and how deep your pockets are.
It was spotted till now on Mi17 variants, Mi26, Mi28, Ka52 and KA27, its basically stand alone system it does not need to be slaved to anything onboard since everything is being processed by its own control unit that has own "brain".
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Militarov wrote:DerWolf wrote:Does the Mi-28 have the President-S system, I haven't noticed it? Ka-52 already have it, but i find strange a modern attack helicopter like mi-28 not to have that.
If you order it with President you will get it, its not considered as standard package. Ofc you can choose only parts and subsystems of whole President to be installed and not whole thing, depends on what you want and how deep your pockets are.
It was spotted till now on Mi17 variants, Mi26, Mi28, Ka52 and KA27, its basically stand alone system it does not need to be slaved to anything onboard since everything is being processed by its own control unit that has own "brain".
President-S is just an upgrade to any plattform but what you want to see is Vitebsk it is a TWICMS (Threat Warning, Identification and Counter Measure System) that uses sensor fusion to process information to give counter measures to different threats and give pilot information of direction of attack and i wouldn't be suprised if it has Shtora like capability when lazed by Laser Rangefinder or Designator and point weapons to the source or provide information of where it comes from so he can gun it down.
Vitebsk is going to be in Mi-28NM. Mil was either lazy or kind of struggled/struggling with the problem they have with the Arbalet radar of CMW L-band radar for air-to-air coverage 360° azimuth. However appreantly a NM upgrade of Vitebsk was already shown.
Here link to the link with many pictures of new wing tip pods with MAWS, LWR and dispensers while a single DIRCM ball is spotted beneath.
https://www.russiadefence.net/t517p285-mi-28n-news#116903
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Does anyone known when will we see MI-28NM?
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DerWolf wrote:Does anyone known when will we see MI-28NM?
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http://tass.ru/en/russia/816019
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Russia Developing Advanced Laser Guidance System for Mi-28 Gunships (VIDEO)
Russia is developing a multifunction image processing system and an upgraded laser guidance system for guided weapons for its newest Mi-28NM attack helicopter.
RYAZAN (Sputnik) – Russia is creating a modernized weapons guidance system for its newest Mi-28NM (NATO reporting name "Havoc") attack helicopter, the head of Russia's Ryazan State Instrument-Making Enterprise said Thursday.
"As part of the development work, a multifunction image processing system and an upgraded laser guidance system for guided weapons is being developed. Both products are different from previously available analogues, with a whole range of upgraded technical characteristics in accordance with the required technical specifications and the best possible solution for issues of import substitution," Pavel Budagov told RIA Novosti.
The Mi-28NM is a modernized version of the Mi-28N Night Hunter attack helicopter that is being upgraded to a fifth-generation aircraft, which has been in development since 2008.
Since the start of the development, Russia had received more than 10 export orders for helicopters of this type.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160310/1036055359/mi-28-guidance-systems.html#ixzz42V3Fxixk
Russia is developing a multifunction image processing system and an upgraded laser guidance system for guided weapons for its newest Mi-28NM attack helicopter.
RYAZAN (Sputnik) – Russia is creating a modernized weapons guidance system for its newest Mi-28NM (NATO reporting name "Havoc") attack helicopter, the head of Russia's Ryazan State Instrument-Making Enterprise said Thursday.
"As part of the development work, a multifunction image processing system and an upgraded laser guidance system for guided weapons is being developed. Both products are different from previously available analogues, with a whole range of upgraded technical characteristics in accordance with the required technical specifications and the best possible solution for issues of import substitution," Pavel Budagov told RIA Novosti.
The Mi-28NM is a modernized version of the Mi-28N Night Hunter attack helicopter that is being upgraded to a fifth-generation aircraft, which has been in development since 2008.
Since the start of the development, Russia had received more than 10 export orders for helicopters of this type.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160310/1036055359/mi-28-guidance-systems.html#ixzz42V3Fxixk
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Russia ready to start production of dual-control version of Night Hunter attack helicopter. New version of Mi-28N equipped double piloting system for RuAF will get designation Mi-28UB.
More:
http://tass.ru/en/defense/862722
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The major difference between the new Mi-28UB and the Mi-28N Night Hunter helicopter is the dual hydromechanical flight control system. Thanks to this innovation, the helicopter can be operated both from the pilot’s cockpit and the flight instructor’s cockpit. The area of the flight instructor’s cockpit has been increased, with an expansion in the pilot canopy and change to the configuration of the energy-absorbing seats.
The new Mi-28UB helicopter will improve significantly and render more effective training of pilots of Mi-28NE Night Hunter helicopters, which are supplied to the Russian air force, and may be offered for export. The Mi-28UB retains the full potential of an attack helicopter and offers the same level of service as the Mi-28NE Night Hunter attack helicopters.
http://www.russianhelicopters.aero/en/press/news/Mi-28UB_OP1/
How the Mi 28 N v UB?
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Book. wrote:Россия поставит Алжиру 40 вертолетов Ми-28НЭ "Ночной охотник"
Russia to supply Algeria 40 Mi-28NE "Night Hunter"
http://www.interfax.ru/world/499018
https://www.russiadefence.net/t2828p175-russia-algeria-military-contracts#156210
Algeris try Mi 28 dual pilot
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Mi-28N went to fight in Syria
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Mi-28N launches guided antitank missile against ISIS objects near Palmyra
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I've just posted a worrying news about the Mi-28 NE that crashed -or downed ?- tonight above the syrian sky.
https://www.russiadefence.net/t5089p550-syrian-civil-war-news-7#159947
We do not know the circumstances, Russia's army communiqué said it was an accident, however I doubt. I have few questions. Does the Mi-28 have President-S' protection too? Is the "President-S" effective against the new generation of american SAM ? Is the protection of cockpit enough against Stinger ? I don't know if this russian helicopter was downed by AAA 57 mm ? 37 mm ? 23 mm ?
https://www.russiadefence.net/t5089p550-syrian-civil-war-news-7#159947
We do not know the circumstances, Russia's army communiqué said it was an accident, however I doubt. I have few questions. Does the Mi-28 have President-S' protection too? Is the "President-S" effective against the new generation of american SAM ? Is the protection of cockpit enough against Stinger ? I don't know if this russian helicopter was downed by AAA 57 mm ? 37 mm ? 23 mm ?
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1; It wasnt Mi-28NE, it was Mi-28N.
2; It was not shot down.
3; It does not have President-S suite.
4; It went down because of pilot error.
2; It was not shot down.
3; It does not have President-S suite.
4; It went down because of pilot error.
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Berkut wrote:1; It wasnt Mi-28NE, it was Mi-28N.
2; It was not shot down.
3; It does not havePresident-Ssuite. President-S is an export modular upgrade, the russian version for domestic use is Vitebsk and sensor fusion computing system that provides much more than just dazzling incoming MANPADS/SAM heatseeking missiles. Mi-28NM will have Vitebsk (2017/18).
4; It went down because of pilot error.
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Interfax News
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Russian Aerospace Forces to receive 24 Mi-28UB combat training helicopters, two Mi-26 transport helicopters before end of 2018 - Defense Ministry
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Russian Aerospace Forces to receive 24 Mi-28UB combat training helicopters, two Mi-26 transport helicopters before end of 2018 - Defense Ministry
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Russia’s Mi-28 Attack Helicopter to Get Laser Missile Defense Gear
Russia’s Mi-28 Night Hunter attack helicopters will soon be equipped with an advanced on-board laser system to defend against MANPAD missiles and air-to-air missiles, a senior adviser to the deputy head of the Radio-Electronic Technologies Concern (KRET), told RIA Novosti.
KRET had earlier announced that it was going to equip Russia’s MiG-35 multirole fighter jets with the latest platform-less inertial navigation system.
The LINS-100RS and BINS-SP2 inertial systems are designed to determine the location of the object, complex processing and delivering navigation and flight information.They are also able to determine the coordinates and parameters of an object in the autonomous mode and in the absence of terrestrial, marine or space signals.
Russia’s Mi-28 Night Hunter attack helicopters will soon be equipped with an advanced on-board laser system to defend against MANPAD missiles and air-to-air missiles, a senior adviser to the deputy head of the Radio-Electronic Technologies Concern (KRET), told RIA Novosti.
KRET had earlier announced that it was going to equip Russia’s MiG-35 multirole fighter jets with the latest platform-less inertial navigation system.
The LINS-100RS and BINS-SP2 inertial systems are designed to determine the location of the object, complex processing and delivering navigation and flight information.They are also able to determine the coordinates and parameters of an object in the autonomous mode and in the absence of terrestrial, marine or space signals.
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New MI-28UB arrive in Iraq , the commander of army aviation apperciate it's weapon load and its role in recent falluja war
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNYCoBT9-oM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNYCoBT9-oM
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New improved Mi-28MN comming online soon 
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1991614.html
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1991614.html
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MOSCOW, July 1 -. RIA Novosti Deliveries of the newest attack helicopter Mi-28nm in the Russian army will begin in the near future, its cruising speed in comparison with the previous modification will be increased by 13% due to new blades, the appeal says managing director of the company "Rostvertol" Peter Motrenko, published in the company's annual report for 2015.
"In the near future will begin deliveries of the Russian Defense Ministry powerful attack helicopters Mi-28nm -. A fundamentally new car with improved tactical and technical, flight and combat characteristics In 2015 PJSC" Rostvertol "prototype of the helicopter, which differs from the basic model life. of state tests of the prototype of the Mi-28nm - 2016 ", - stated in the document, a copy of which is at the disposal of RIA Novosti.
According Motrenko, Mi-28nm will receive a brand new radar that will provide helicopter-round visibility as well as a new control system. In addition to the upgraded "Night Hunter" is also creating new rotor blades, which will increase the cruising speed of the helicopter by 13%, and the maximum, which now amounts to 340 kilometers per hour - 10 percent.
"In the near future will begin deliveries of the Russian Defense Ministry powerful attack helicopters Mi-28nm -. A fundamentally new car with improved tactical and technical, flight and combat characteristics In 2015 PJSC" Rostvertol "prototype of the helicopter, which differs from the basic model life. of state tests of the prototype of the Mi-28nm - 2016 ", - stated in the document, a copy of which is at the disposal of RIA Novosti.
According Motrenko, Mi-28nm will receive a brand new radar that will provide helicopter-round visibility as well as a new control system. In addition to the upgraded "Night Hunter" is also creating new rotor blades, which will increase the cruising speed of the helicopter by 13%, and the maximum, which now amounts to 340 kilometers per hour - 10 percent.
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From an other website :
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archangelski wrote:From an other website :
Outer differences between N & NM
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zg18 wrote:
Outer differences between N & NM
Strangely labelled as Mi-28UB on pictures of RussianPlanes.net and NM just after...
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If that is the NM then I for one find it a little disappointing.
I was hoping for a more greatly modified gun system with internal ammo storage of much larger capacity in a lower drag arrangement.
The removal of the nose thimble guidance system for the ATAKA/Shturm system seems to be the main external difference resulting in a slightly better forward view for the gunner...
I was hoping for a more greatly modified gun system with internal ammo storage of much larger capacity in a lower drag arrangement.
The removal of the nose thimble guidance system for the ATAKA/Shturm system seems to be the main external difference resulting in a slightly better forward view for the gunner...
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lol, they managed to make the Mi-28 even uglier. 
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Zivo wrote:lol, they managed to make the Mi-28 even uglier.
Ugliness is a desirable quality for attack choppers. They should look mean, nasty, threatening and in-yer-face. Mi-28 screams at the observer "I deliver what the Apache only promises..."
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