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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:10 am

    Austin wrote:Any pictures of Pr 20386 corvette ?

    Here are a few drawings.


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    Post  Austin Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:21 am

    Thanks , This looks good more stealthy approach at cost of lower armament.

    How many 20386 do they plan to build ?
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    Post  TheArmenian Sat Jul 04, 2015 10:13 am

    Arctic patrol ship to be built by the Pella shipyard.

    A 6800 T and 114 m long package that gives you an icebreaking hull, a helicopter and CLUB missile containers.

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    Post  collegeboy16 Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:25 pm

    neat, the smokestacks are gone, which means its all nuke power in that concept.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:27 pm

    Will it be more deadlier than LRASM-A ? US scrapped LRASM-B projekt .

    It will likely be Zircon... a hypersonic missile...

    You are actually describing a very old reality - witness the Bismarck. But it is not really a question of "large ships", it is a question of "second best" when it comes to naval warfare. In naval warfare, there is little value in being second best. One needs to be preeminent. The reality for Russia is the US Navy, not to mention the addition of allied navies, is vastly superior to the Russian navy in numbers. Large Russian surface ships would be sunk very quickly in an all out confrontation, the only impediment to doing so would be the risk of nuclear escalation. Second best navies always get the most bang for their buck asymmetrically (witness German submarine warfare in both world wars). Russia should allocate its naval expenditures accordingly.

    The British navy dominated in the European theatre because the German Navy lacked the big ships and carriers to compete... in the Pacific the British navy was at a disadvantage because of distances and had to be rather careful with its large ships due to a lack of carriers.

    Russia can substitute land air power to support naval air power and have a powerful coastal navy that could easily over power the US Navy in certain places in a real war... Russia just needs to cut certain shipping routes and the US will be in trouble.

    They will need carriers to project power and to defend the surface vessels they already have... a few large ships to operate with their carriers makes their carriers vastly safer and more powerful... I would rate naval PAK FA to be superior to anything any western country could put on a carrier...

    Arctic patrol ship to be built by the Pella shipyard.

    I wonder if it will be fitted with a laser ice cutter... pirat
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    Post  Book. Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:50 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:Arctic patrol ship to be built by the Pella shipyard.

    A 6800 T and 114 m long package that gives you an icebreaking hull, a helicopter and CLUB missile containers.

    Look top heavy. I like it
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    Post  TheArmenian Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:34 am

    Details of the PR. 20386

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    Post  medo Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:00 am

    TheArmenian wrote:Arctic patrol ship to be built by the Pella shipyard.

    A 6800 T and 114 m long package that gives you an icebreaking hull, a helicopter and CLUB missile containers.

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    Nice one. I would expect, it will have at least two Palmas for air defense.
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    Post  jhelb Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:13 pm

    First look at the future Russian aircraft carrier at IMDS, St Petersburg


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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:21 am

    Zaslon S and X band AFAR and X and Ku band ECM system

    http://bastion-karpenko.ru/zaslon-mvms-2015/
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