Russia Defence Forum

Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues


+11
Mike E
nemrod
Vann7
SOC
Rpg type 7v
GarryB
Mindstorm
sepheronx
TheArmenian
Viktor
Austin
15 posters

    SR-72 Hypersonic Strike Aircraft Revealed

    Hannibal Barca
    Hannibal Barca


    Posts : 1443
    Points : 1451
    Join date : 2013-12-13

    SR-72 Hypersonic Strike Aircraft Revealed - Page 2 Empty Re: SR-72 Hypersonic Strike Aircraft Revealed

    Post  Hannibal Barca Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:47 pm

    US industrial complex raise the stakes much above what they can catch. For someone who can't accomplish even relatively moderate programs like the f35 or the Zumwalt a mach 6 ramjet is well above their capabilities. Just an attempt to sell magazines. In the meantime they can spend their time trying to master ......mach 1 with F35  Laughing Razz Cool
    GarryB
    GarryB


    Posts : 39169
    Points : 39667
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    SR-72 Hypersonic Strike Aircraft Revealed - Page 2 Empty Could SR-72 to overpower the future Mig-41?

    Post  GarryB Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:51 am

    Hahahaha... the SR-71 never flew into Soviet airspace except cutting corners to try to provoke the air defence forces into giving away secrets like radio channel codes and interception procedures.

    Even at twice the speed a bomber or recon aircraft would not be safe over 1980s Russia let alone 21st C Russia.

    Most models of S-300 are mobile so a fast flying SR-72 could be cruising along and suddenly find itself flying between two radar sets for S300 but that a S-300 battery has been set up between those active units with its radar off waiting for it to fly over so it can shoot you down.

    The speed of sound is generally accepted as 320m/s at sea level... so mach 6 would therefore be 3 x 320m/s or 1.92km/s... old S-300P could only engage targets flying at 1.2km/s, but the S-300PMU1 and PMU2 can engage targets flying more than twice that speed at 2.8km/s.

    S-300V could engage targets at such speeds too.

    S-400 and S-500 can both easily engage targets flying much much faster than just under 2km per second.

    No point in building a "Mig-41", interceptors are (currently) a thing of the past. Besides, the Russian aerospace industry is busy with the PAK-FA, newer variations of MiG's and Flankers, and the Fulcrum replacement.

    The Russian Air Force wants PAK FA and may eventually look at a light 5h gen fighter to make up the numbers without being too expensive, but it is not really interested in a replacement for the MiG-31.

    The Aerospace Defence Forces however find the MiG-31 to be a very useful aircraft and really don't need an expensive stealthy plane.. they just need a double MiG-31... ie twice as fast... more missiles, longer range, bigger radar. they don't need stealth or manouver capability.

    A light modern fighter is far from decided. They might just go for a UCAV.

    Very true, though I think a light cheaper 5th gen fighter would sell rather better than a UCAV and would be more acceptable to the conservative Air Forces around the world.

    In the meantime they can spend their time trying to master ......mach 1 with F35

    Or indeed new technology like oxygen generators so they don't suffocate their F-22 pilots...
    Godric
    Godric


    Posts : 800
    Points : 826
    Join date : 2015-04-30
    Location : Alba (Scotland)

    SR-72 Hypersonic Strike Aircraft Revealed - Page 2 Empty Has Google maps uncovered US Mac 6 spy plane/drone ??

    Post  Godric Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:51 pm

    i found it after viewing this article on sputnik news

    https://sputniknews.com/military/201801111060688459-google-earth-unveil-us-spy-plane/


    full aerial view of the test facility

    SR-72 Hypersonic Strike Aircraft Revealed - Page 2 Secret

    childish alien grey type figure on small runway

    SR-72 Hypersonic Strike Aircraft Revealed - Page 2 Secret1

    a close up of the test facility and vechile which is roughly 2 1/2 times larger than a car parked in front of what i would guess is it's hangar, facility has blast shield to protect facility from engine thrust just behind large X

    SR-72 Hypersonic Strike Aircraft Revealed - Page 2 Secret2


    a airport that could be best described as small regional airport ... with some interesting features and structures surrounding the airport including a secluded 2nd small runway for testing aircraft


    SR-72 Hypersonic Strike Aircraft Revealed - Page 2 Secret3

    Sikorsky
    Pratt & Whitney
    JENOPTIK
    Aerojet Rocketdyne
    interesting list of companies based at a airport that could be best described as small regional airport


    SR-72 Hypersonic Strike Aircraft Revealed - Page 2 Secret5


    http://www.rocket.com/content/aerojet-news

    https://www.jenoptik-inc.com/defense/

    From their website : Our 25+ years of experience includes:

    Aerial Imaging
    Airborne and Space Lidar
    Free Space Optical Communication
    Fire Control
    Gimbal
    Imaging
    Multi and Hyperspectral
    Projection
    Sensing
    Simulation and Training
    Space Surveillance
    Star Tracking
    Target Acquisition
    GarryB
    GarryB


    Posts : 39169
    Points : 39667
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    SR-72 Hypersonic Strike Aircraft Revealed - Page 2 Empty Re: SR-72 Hypersonic Strike Aircraft Revealed

    Post  GarryB Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:07 am

    A Mach 6 drone slightly bigger than a car?

    Maybe if it was launched off the nose of an ICBM... not if it takes off from such a short air strip.

    But of course... it must be a super secret new spy plane because they could not afford to keep those under some sort of roof... how secret could it be?
    Godric
    Godric


    Posts : 800
    Points : 826
    Join date : 2015-04-30
    Location : Alba (Scotland)

    SR-72 Hypersonic Strike Aircraft Revealed - Page 2 Empty Re: SR-72 Hypersonic Strike Aircraft Revealed

    Post  Godric Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:38 pm

    GarryB wrote:A Mach 6 drone slightly bigger than a car?

    Maybe if it was launched off the nose of an ICBM... not if it takes off from such a short air strip.

    But of course... it must be a super secret new spy plane because they could not afford to keep those under some sort of roof... how secret could it be?

    it was parked in front of it's hangar and it's actually 2 1/2 times longer than a car and it's wings fold backwards so it's not the X-45 and it's longer than the X-45 ... it's actually a test site and not a full runway and the whole airfield is owned by UTC who are a large US military contractor
    JohninMK
    JohninMK


    Posts : 14839
    Points : 14978
    Join date : 2015-06-16
    Location : England

    SR-72 Hypersonic Strike Aircraft Revealed - Page 2 Empty Re: SR-72 Hypersonic Strike Aircraft Revealed

    Post  JohninMK Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:46 pm

    Fake news and is a week or so old now.

    This is a P&W owned engine test site along the road from one of their factories and positioned to minimise noise nuisance. The object is a test bed for the F-135 engine and is used to test the heat signature.

    Sponsored content


    SR-72 Hypersonic Strike Aircraft Revealed - Page 2 Empty Re: SR-72 Hypersonic Strike Aircraft Revealed

    Post  Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Sun May 19, 2024 11:27 pm