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kvsThese clowns are being disingenuous. To them it is Nazi lives that matter. They have hard core hate for whites such as Russians.
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The Situation in the Ukraine. #28
kvs- Posts : 15167
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The amusing thing is that America criticised the rebels for killing him, but AFAIK he stepped on a mine... it could very easily have been a Ukrainian government laid mine...
I suspect they are worried about the Americans in the same group that might end up dead and in the news... not for the Americans themselves but for image.
I suspect they are worried about the Americans in the same group that might end up dead and in the news... not for the Americans themselves but for image.
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https://en.news-front.info/2020/07/18/american-coronavirus-vaccine-killed-five-ukrainians/
Americans are using Ukrainians as Guinea Pigs for testing experimental vaccine against coronavirus.
In Kharkov US virologists have tested a Covid vaccine on 15 people. Allegedly 5 people, including 4 Ukrainian soldiers, felt badly and died after the experiment.
They must be the harmless "side effects" that Bill Gates talked about.
Americans are using Ukrainians as Guinea Pigs for testing experimental vaccine against coronavirus.
In Kharkov US virologists have tested a Covid vaccine on 15 people. Allegedly 5 people, including 4 Ukrainian soldiers, felt badly and died after the experiment.
They must be the harmless "side effects" that Bill Gates talked about.
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Hello again, long time no see.
For all it's worth, here's my technical military analysis of the fighting during the year 2019 and the losses. This was written in January but it's still valid and interesting, specially since the yearly report of the fighting from July 2019 to July 2020 came out and validates my analysis and assumptions.
Use google or yandex translate to read.
https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2020/01/17/analisis-militar-del-ano-2019/
And here's my follow up post
https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2020/07/21/balance-del-ultimo-ano-julio-2019-julio-2020/
For all it's worth, here's my technical military analysis of the fighting during the year 2019 and the losses. This was written in January but it's still valid and interesting, specially since the yearly report of the fighting from July 2019 to July 2020 came out and validates my analysis and assumptions.
Use google or yandex translate to read.
https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2020/01/17/analisis-militar-del-ano-2019/
And here's my follow up post
https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2020/07/21/balance-del-ultimo-ano-julio-2019-julio-2020/
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Some Ukrainans decided to fly a large Ukraine flag over Donetsk using hellum balloons. Naturally it was shot down.
https://www.stalkerzone.org/a-ukrainian-flag-sent-to-donetsk-via-balloons-was-downed-in-the-dpr/
https://www.stalkerzone.org/a-ukrainian-flag-sent-to-donetsk-via-balloons-was-downed-in-the-dpr/
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And not just Russian transit, China transit also 
Ukraine has almost completely lost Russian transit
Ukraine has almost completely lost Russian transit
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In USSR times Ukraine had 25% of Soviet population but possessed 50% of Soviet industry, 50% of agricultural and probably a similar % of scientific output.
It designed and produced tanks for the Soviet army, transport aircraft for the Soviet AF and aircraft carriers for the navy.
So it was overprivileaged in every way possible.
Let's wait and see when Ukraine starts to produce even small arms ammo for any NATO army.
It designed and produced tanks for the Soviet army, transport aircraft for the Soviet AF and aircraft carriers for the navy.
So it was overprivileaged in every way possible.
Let's wait and see when Ukraine starts to produce even small arms ammo for any NATO army.
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magnumcromagnon wrote:
The graphic does not quite bring the message home. We have 11 billion euros supposedly "invested" (more life stolen by
the ubiquitous parasites in Banderastan) in a population of around 35 million and 22 billion dollars actually invested in a population
of about 2.5 million. Over the last 5 years the exchange rate of dollars to euros has averaged around 1.13 to 1. So
that means the EU has "invested" 0.355 dollars per capita but Russia has invested 8.8 dollars per capita.
And those Russian investments are hard core. Infrastructure and factories. Not fly by night budget injections or other
short-lived BS.
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kvs wrote:These clowns are being disingenuous. To them it is Nazi lives that matter. They have hard core hate for whites such as Russians.
Well, he was really a clown. I think that this screenshot is bullshit, maybe trolling as he was half Ukrainian pig himself. He had estonian surname and Ukrainian name. He lived in Ukraine, studied, had business, then he decided to join so called ATO. But who knows, he let up the ghost bleeding in the forest, maybe he only wanted to play airsoft with real bullets and got tagged or maybe he was following his patriotic duty and defended Globohomo Ukraine.
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"The State Duma proposed to start officially supplying weapons to #Donbass.
Russia may start supplying arms to the self-proclaimed republics of Donbass in response to the US law on the regular allocation of military aid to Ukraine in the amount of $ 300 million."
https://ruposters.ru/news/31-07-2020/predlozhili-postavlyat-oruzhie-donbassa
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Russia may start supplying arms to the self-proclaimed republics of Donbass in response to the US law on the regular allocation of military aid to Ukraine in the amount of $ 300 million."
https://ruposters.ru/news/31-07-2020/predlozhili-postavlyat-oruzhie-donbassa
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VARGR198 wrote:"The State Duma proposed to start officially supplying weapons to #Donbass.
Russia may start supplying arms to the self-proclaimed republics of Donbass in response to the US law on the regular allocation of military aid to Ukraine in the amount of $ 300 million."
https://ruposters.ru/news/31-07-2020/predlozhili-postavlyat-oruzhie-donbassa
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Absolutely unexpected development, I'm shocked!!!
Question: are there any thermobaric ordinance available for Smerch MLRS? Asking for a friend...
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They have been whining about Russian interference all this time.... how could they possibly complain or get upset about such a declaration because they have been saying Russia has been supporting them all along so this wont make any difference will it?
EU sanctions are mostly about supporting ukrainian separatists... so now they can at least do the crime after having done the time anyway...
This will really stir things up... looking forward to seeing CNN and the BBC go apeshit.
EU sanctions are mostly about supporting ukrainian separatists... so now they can at least do the crime after having done the time anyway...
This will really stir things up... looking forward to seeing CNN and the BBC go apeshit.
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GarryB wrote:They have been whining about Russian interference all this time.... how could they possibly complain or get upset about such a declaration because they have been saying Russia has been supporting them all along so this wont make any difference will it?
EU sanctions are mostly about supporting ukrainian separatists... so now they can at least do the crime after having done the time anyway...
This will really stir things up... looking forward to seeing CNN and the BBC go apeshit.
Yeah, the contradictory BS spew will be something. These propaganda orifices have been pushing the Kiev regime line that Russian regular
forces are occupying the Donbass. So why would they need to supply arms to themselves? But the sheeple who can't be bothered to
pay attention and don't remember events from three days prior will lap it up.
People always moan about war and how to avoid it. Grow a brain, numbskulls. The MSM has been central to all major wars in history.
This includes WWI and WWII.
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GarryB wrote:They have been whining about Russian interference all this time.... how could they possibly complain or get upset about such a declaration because they have been saying Russia has been supporting them all along so this wont make any difference will it?
EU sanctions are mostly about supporting ukrainian separatists... so now they can at least do the crime after having done the time anyway...
This will really stir things up... looking forward to seeing CNN and the BBC go apeshit.
Before the "Russian interference" in the Donbas/New Russia there was the Ukrainian interference in both Abhazia and South Ossetia:
http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/302/ukraine-participated-invasion-south-ossetia
http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/264/georgian-losses-reports
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That Sinking Feeling: Ukraine Naval and Coastal Forces
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VARGR198 wrote:That Sinking Feeling: Ukraine Naval and Coastal Forces
Sobering.
The Neptun is described as being able to strike both naval and land targets, suggesting a combination of active radar guidance combined with GPS. If deployed in land-based form on the shores of the Sea of Azov, it could be used to shut down large swaths of the Sea of Azov under the guise of live-fire exercises. But arguably the worst-case scenario is the use of the missile against the Kerch Bridge, which is located within the 300km range of the Ukraine-controlled Azov coastline. One can readily imagine an MH17-style scenario in which a Ukrainian missile strikes and damages the bridge, with the attack then being attributed—with full NATO support—to a training accident or even a “Russian missile”. It would also not be an easy attack to respond to, as it would require Russian military strikes against targets on Ukraine’s territory that would elicit a highly predictable NATO reaction. It would also be a difficult attack to defend against, requiring the deployment of anti-missile weapons like the Pantsir-S and Tor which might not guarantee protection against a surprise attack by a highly subsonic, sea-skimming missile relying on GPS or even simply inertial guidance and not advertising its own presence by radar emissions.
Moreover, Neptun will give Ukraine the ability to launch relatively precise missile strikes against high-value targets in the DPR and LPR. In combination with the Vilkha rocket system and the Grom short-range ballistic missile, this weapon is part of Ukraine’s emerging deep-strike missile arsenal.
The abortive Gyurza-M raid into the Sea of Azov and NATO’s unwillingness to become directly embroiled in the Sea of Azov conflict do not mean we have seen the last of the provocations. Bolstered by US financial and material assistance, Ukraine is building up offensive capabilities for use in the littoral regions of that body of water. While its military capabilities are not in the same league as Russia’s, Ukraine’s growing ability to launch high-speed naval raids and long-range missile strikes represents a more difficult challenge to counter than its deteriorating land forces.
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Tahat's like using a knife against a full armed soldier when he is pointing his weapons at you 10m away. You better not use it.
Russia would destroy all of their big hardware (fighters, ships, missile launchers...) if they use it against them.
Russia would destroy all of their big hardware (fighters, ships, missile launchers...) if they use it against them.
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Ukraine would not fire on the Kerch bridge for the mere reason sure they would take it out but the response would be far too devesting and Ukraine could not in any dimension hope to defeat the Russians.
Reality is attacking a civilian structure like this would give putin a basis to push deeper into Ukraine to et teir missiles out of range of Russian civilian targets, kraine would never make such a stupid and basically suicidal move.
Reality is attacking a civilian structure like this would give putin a basis to push deeper into Ukraine to et teir missiles out of range of Russian civilian targets, kraine would never make such a stupid and basically suicidal move.
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First of all... Hahahahaha... Neptune.... also known as Uranus or Bal... a Soviet missile that is really not very new at all.
If they launch an attack on the bridge or any Russian naval vessels I would expect a response would be a direct attack on military HQ in Kiev and possibly an attack on the Ukrainian president of the time... I doubt the leadership of the Ukraine would care about the loss of any ships or coastal missile batteries, but loss of an HQ in Kiev and their own death would prevent a repeat attack.
Who gives a fuck what HATO says it is none of their business.
If they launch an attack on the bridge or any Russian naval vessels I would expect a response would be a direct attack on military HQ in Kiev and possibly an attack on the Ukrainian president of the time... I doubt the leadership of the Ukraine would care about the loss of any ships or coastal missile batteries, but loss of an HQ in Kiev and their own death would prevent a repeat attack.
Who gives a fuck what HATO says it is none of their business.
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GarryB wrote:First of all... Hahahahaha... Neptune.... also known as Uranus or Bal... a Soviet missile that is really not very new at all.
If they launch an attack on the bridge or any Russian naval vessels I would expect a response would be a direct attack on military HQ in Kiev and possibly an attack on the Ukrainian president of the time... I doubt the leadership of the Ukraine would care about the loss of any ships or coastal missile batteries, but loss of an HQ in Kiev and their own death would prevent a repeat attack.
Who gives a fuck what HATO says it is none of their business.
I did see a video a few weeks ago where a Russian general described it was outdated soviet tech and subsonic and therefore able to be shot down by Russian defences quite easily.
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https://yandex.ru/turbo/s/discover24.ru/2020/08/syn-biznesmena-iz-ukrainy-priobrel-ostrov-v-italii-za-10-mln-evro/?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=mobile
In the meanwhile, while Motor sich is slowly dying, the son of its owner buy an island in italy
(I am twice annoyed by this news, by the fact that my country is selling islands to foreigners, and by the fact that the son of a ukrainian oligarch is buying it....)
In the meanwhile, while Motor sich is slowly dying, the son of its owner buy an island in italy
(I am twice annoyed by this news, by the fact that my country is selling islands to foreigners, and by the fact that the son of a ukrainian oligarch is buying it....)
The son of a businessman from Ukraine bought an island in Italy for 10 million euros
August 3, 2020
The son of Vyacheslav Boguslaev, a Ukrainian businessman, acquired Gallinara Island, off the coast of Italy, last month.
Corriere della Sera news agency notes that the island was acquired for 10 million euros. For forty years it was owned by 2 local families. The new owner turned out to be the Galinette company, which is most likely headed by Alexander Boguslaev, who lives in Monaco.
The authors of the materials note that he is the son of the owner of the Motor Sich enterprise, which produces aircraft engines. The island is located just 1.5 kilometers from the coast of Liguria, and its area is about 10 hectares
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GarryB wrote:First of all... Hahahahaha... Neptune.... also known as Uranus or Bal... a Soviet missile that is really not very new at all.
If they launch an attack on the bridge or any Russian naval vessels I would expect a response would be a direct attack on military HQ in Kiev and possibly an attack on the Ukrainian president of the time... I doubt the leadership of the Ukraine would care about the loss of any ships or coastal missile batteries, but loss of an HQ in Kiev and their own death would prevent a repeat attack.
Who gives a fuck what HATO says it is none of their business.
If Kiev attacks civilian targets in Crimea, Russia will have full rights to retaliate. No amount of NATzO propaganda will make for a big
enough fig leaf. There is simply no way to spin the Crimean bridge as a legitimate target for Kiev. Even if the "annexation" lie
is to be taken as "truth". Go ahead and try to destroy your previous property which is under litigation. That is a crime even
if you believe it is rightfully owned by you.
But this sort of primitive thinking is nothing new for Banderastan. During the "Holodomor" the "resistance" would burn crops and
kill livestock. That is cutting off their own food supply out of spite.
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Already producing ATGMs. Some in collaboration with Poland and Turkey. Ukraine is also producing assault rifles in house.Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Let's wait and see when Ukraine starts to produce even small arms ammo for any NATO army.
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I did see a video a few weeks ago where a Russian general described it was outdated soviet tech and subsonic and therefore able to be shot down by Russian defences quite easily.
I would not underestimate it... it is not a bad missile, but it is intended for being carried by medium fighters and helicopters... you would need three or four hits to destroy a destroyer sized ship, though one would stop it doing what it was doing.
It is very similar in performance to Harpoon and Exocet... which can also be dangerous in the right situation.
Of course the consequence of using it against Russia makes it suicide... it is not stealthy nor too fast to stop.... against an unprotected bridge it should hit no problem, but against a military ship... decoys and jammers and self defence weapons would be a problem.
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