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par far wrote:Me, being able to afford private schooling for my kids, don't really like.
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Mir wrote:Russia is actually a very good example of how the elite kept the masses from getting educated.
Back in Tsarist Russia a census of 1897 revealed that only 27% of Russian residents were literate. Education was basically preserved for the elite.
There was some improvement in the early 20th Century but it was only after the October Revolution that educating the people became a priority.
The USSR had one of the highest literacy rates in the world at around 99%.
higurashihougi wrote:par far wrote:Me, being able to afford private schooling for my kids, don't really like.
Would you like to elaborate more of your opinion about this ? (serious question, no mocking)
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ALAMO wrote:Mir wrote:Russia is actually a very good example of how the elite kept the masses from getting educated.
Back in Tsarist Russia a census of 1897 revealed that only 27% of Russian residents were literate. Education was basically preserved for the elite.
There was some improvement in the early 20th Century but it was only after the October Revolution that educating the people became a priority.
The USSR had one of the highest literacy rates in the world at around 99%.
You are to harsh on them. I mean Tsarist.
27% of literacy ratio at the end of 18th century is actually not that bad. That includes native tribes, remember that.
That is in pair with Spain, Mexico, Portugal or Finland.
In the US, illiteracy among the black population reached 70% in the early 19th century. In your country, about 5% of the black population was literate in 1904.
Plus, we can't trust those data in full, as the studies were made at totally different times. There was a huge number of people, who could read but could not write those times.
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flamming_python wrote:I think it's the right move albeit as mentioned, performed with the typical Chinese ruthlessness
If there is a demand for private education, then that means that public education is in some manner deficient
Unless it's purely a matter of nepotism and status, for rich parents to send their kids to such schools. But that's symptomatic of society and the economy itself.
Still, I'm pretty sure there is plenty of scope for public schools to improve in China, as in Russia and other places
It's better instead to impose limits on the private education sector while continuing to invest into the public one
andalusia wrote:I find it amazing that Americans consider public education to be Marxist and tend to support private schools; I guess it is an indication of American oligarchy tendencies.
You would be called a communist for your support for public education because Americans worship private markets and think anything government is evil and bad.
Why do you think of the American hatred of all things government like education, health care and public transportation?
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Me, being able to afford private schooling for my kids, don't really like.
I find it amazing that Americans consider public education to be Marxist and tend to support private schools; I guess it is an indication of American oligarchy tendencies.
You would be called a communist for your support for public education because Americans worship private markets and think anything government is evil and bad.
Why do you think of the American hatred of all things government like education, health care and public transportation?
I noticed the other countries don't have high school or college sports.
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GarryB wrote:Me, being able to afford private schooling for my kids, don't really like.
Didn't even realise you were Chinese.....
I find it amazing that Americans consider public education to be Marxist and tend to support private schools; I guess it is an indication of American oligarchy tendencies.
You would be called a communist for your support for public education because Americans worship private markets and think anything government is evil and bad.
Why do you think of the American hatred of all things government like education, health care and public transportation?
Americans seem to trust big business over big government... which I find amusing considering Trump and Biden and the Clintons represent big business more than they represent big government....
Private ownership suggests efficiency and less waste, while government run often suggests bloated over staffed and lazy and inefficient, but when it comes to prisons private ownership essentially turns your prison population into slave labour, and education into a serial production like for making accountants and economists and not much else because privately run schools have to make a profit or they are not interested.
I noticed the other countries don't have high school or college sports.
Not sure where you got that information from, sports is part of education here in New Zealand from the first day to the last at tertiary level... though obviously at higher levels it becomes optional.
Any parent worth their salt should do whatever it takes to get their children a leg up over other people's children. I guarantee you rich Chinese would just find novel ways to bypass this restriction to give their children an overwhelming edge in education.par far wrote:I want to know what you guys think about this.
I don't know how to feel.
Me, being able to afford private schooling for my kids, don't really like.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/530256-china-private-education-non-profit/
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GarryB wrote:Private ownership suggests efficiency and less waste, while government run often suggests bloated over staffed and lazy and inefficient, but when it comes to prisons private ownership essentially turns your prison population into slave labour, and education into a serial production like for making accountants and economists and not much else because privately run schools have to make a profit or they are not interested.
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Just would like to know are American universities overrated and overhyped? How good are Russian universities?
Private enterprise is indeed very efficient in generating a lot of surplus value for its own at the expense of everything else. The efficient-mind private business will never invest for development of the marginal, underdeveloped regions. Hence the equal development for all regions is mainly the burden of "inefficient" national community and an "inefficient" government which must be being put in the hand of the people, usually after a hard-fought struggle.
The Chinese national railroad system is very "inefficient" under the eyes of the American capitalist because it has a tremendous business loss. But that no-profit system facilitate the necessary movement of the people and satisfy the needs of the community in many regions, which lead to sustainable and fruitful development for the whole nation in overall.
higurashihougi wrote:par far wrote:Me, being able to afford private schooling for my kids, don't really like.
Would you like to elaborate more of your opinion about this ? (serious question, no mocking)
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