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    Post  GarryB Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:23 am

    With modern and fuel efficient engines it is still a good medium bomber.

    The Soviets used them as late as Afghanistan because it was designed as a nuclear bomber so its bomb bay is enormous to take the old nuclear bombs.

    That meant they could carry FAB-5000 and FAB-9000 bombs.
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    Post  IPCRquad Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:58 pm

    KJ-500 AWAC

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    Post  IPCR_quad Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:10 pm

    J-10C

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    Post  walle83 Mon May 03, 2021 8:52 pm

    PLAAF J-16 fighters.

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    Post  walle83 Tue May 04, 2021 10:41 am

    Article about the Chinese J-8 fighter. How China made its first fighter with the help of both the US, Russia and Israel.

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40396/the-u-s-once-helped-china-develop-a-modern-jet-fighter

    "The Shenyang J-8 had begun life back in the early 1960s as a project for a long-range, high-altitude interceptor. Conceptually it would be a scaled-up, twin-engine development of the J-7....."

    "Work on the second-generation J-8II, also known as the J-8B, began in 1980 and was a major redesign of the original aircraft....."

    "The final and most advanced Finback fighter variant, the J-8F, took to the air in 2000, finally adding a modern glass cockpit with a HUD, as well as a new and more powerful radar......"


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    Post  Isos Tue May 04, 2021 12:32 pm

    I'm surprised that they don't have some 2000 j-11 or j-10. Their industry is massive and they should be able to build anything in big numbers.

    Just look at the number of ships they make every 4 years.
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    Post  walle83 Tue May 04, 2021 1:01 pm

    Isos wrote:I'm surprised that they don't have some 2000 j-11 or j-10. Their industry is massive and they should be able to build anything in big numbers.

    Just look at the number of ships they make every 4 years.

    Well not 2000 but around 1000 of J-11 and J-10 by now. Add the J-15, J-16, JH-7 and J-20 then its about 1500 planes since ~2005.

    Thats like three times what Russia produced in the same period.
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    Post  George1 Fri May 14, 2021 11:11 am

    J-16 fighter

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    Post  Sujoy Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:24 am

    China has started to carry out final trials of Xian H-20 strategic stealth bombers opposite the border with India.

    IAF sources say H-20 bombers are aimed at ending the edge India acquired through the acquisition of Su 30MKI and Rafale. H-20 Stealth bombers will be used to target key Indian military and civilian installations from stand off range.

    https://www.freepressjournal.in/india/china-tests-stealth-bomber-h-20s-capabilities-opposite-ladakh
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    Post  walle83 Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:47 am

    Sujoy wrote:China has started to carry out final trials of Xian H-20 strategic stealth bombers opposite the border with India.

    IAF sources say H-20 bombers are aimed at ending the edge India acquired through the acquisition of Su 30MKI and Rafale. H-20 Stealth bombers will be used to target key Indian military and civilian installations from stand off range.

    https://www.freepressjournal.in/india/china-tests-stealth-bomber-h-20s-capabilities-opposite-ladakh

    Sounds strange that we havnt heard anything about it until now? Fake news?
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    Post  Sujoy Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:40 am

    walle83 wrote: Sounds strange that we havnt heard anything about it until now? Fake news?
    Sputnik is reporting the same, citing Indian Intel of course

    https://sputniknews.com/world/202106141083146160-one-year-after-galwan-battle-china-reasserts-claim-over-ladakh-with-more-infra-bomber-trials/

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    Post  lancelot Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:32 pm

    A strategic bomber is not a counter for high performance fighters.
    As far as I know the Chinese have positioned the J-20 fighter close to the Indian border.

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    Post  walle83 Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:50 pm

    lancelot wrote:A strategic bomber is not a counter for high performance fighters.
    As far as I know the Chinese have positioned the J-20 fighter close to the Indian border.

    My thought is that they confused the two ones. Its the J-20 not the H-20.

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    Post  Sujoy Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:01 am

    walle83 wrote: My thought is that they confused the two ones. Its the J-20 not the H-20.
    But the article says the aircraft is being tested. J-20 has already been deployed, against India as well.

    I suspect what they meant was H-20 because of its stealth cannot be detected by Indian Su 30MKI and Rafale and therefore cannot be intercepted.

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    Post  walle83 Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:42 am

    Sujoy wrote:
    walle83 wrote: My thought is that they confused the two ones. Its the J-20 not the H-20.
    But the article says the aircraft is being tested. J-20 has already been deployed, against India as well.

    I suspect what they meant was H-20 because of its stealth cannot be detected by Indian Su 30MKI and Rafale and therefore cannot be intercepted.


    Still, we havnt heard anything about it even had a maiden flight yet. Nevermind any testflights in its final state.

    The latest news is that the H-20 is still in development.

    But hey if it is flying, im all for it welcome
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:57 pm

    The J-20 also wasn't officially revealed for a long time. They could be vigorously testing it until it's accepted & ready for serial production before unveiling it to the media. The US did the same with F-117s & B-2s.

    Mysterious Secluded Facility With Large Hangar Emerges At Chinese Bomber Base
    The construction has also come amid persistent rumors about the imminent public debut of China's H-20 stealth bomber.

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    Post  ChineseTiger Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:02 pm

    J-20 ditches AL-31F engine for WS-10C engine which has serrated nozzles

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    Post  ChineseTiger Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:49 pm

    now that's a looker

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    Post  Hannibal Barca Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:23 pm

    Vietnamese have interest in purchasing 12-14 su57, yet they reckon that J20 is better superiority plane. Interesting.
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    Post  ChineseTiger Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:23 pm

    not too shabby

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    Post  ChineseTiger Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:29 pm

    Hannibal Barca wrote:Vietnamese have interest in purchasing 12-14 su57, yet they reckon that J20 is better superiority plane. Interesting.

    Russia ain't exporting Su-57 anytime soon. They only have 1 Su-57 so far and they need 100 over the next decade.
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    Post  walle83 Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:44 pm

    ChineseTiger wrote:not too shabby

    https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/attachments/a0754de6-cc0f-44b9-b73d-9fc4a4699f09-jpeg.73663/

    Yeah link pictures directly from others forums, usualy works well with admins here Rolling Eyes
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    Post  Backman Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:42 am

    Hannibal Barca wrote:Vietnamese have interest in purchasing 12-14 su57, yet they reckon that J20 is better superiority plane. Interesting.

    Source ?


    Russia ain't exporting Su-57 anytime soon. They only have 1 Su-57 so far and they need 100 over the next decade.

    Not true. Exports of su 57e are not constrained by domestic needs. If they were, Rostec would not be promoting the su 57e so much and talking about their list of countries showing interest
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    Post  GarryB Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:23 am

    ChineseTiger wrote:not too shabby

    https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/attachments/a0754de6-cc0f-44b9-b73d-9fc4a4699f09-jpeg.73663/

    Not just promoting another forum but also hotlinking... that forum will probably give you a one month ban if they knew what you were doing here...

    Explain to me in terms of our rules what you did wrong here.

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