Russian Naval Spetsnaz

Hi everyone!

Do you guys know whether the Navy has its own spetsnaz regiment? Are the Morskaya Pekhota (Marines) considered spetsnaz?

Thanks!

ekacipta021292 wrote:Hi everyone!

Do you guys know whether the Navy has its own spetsnaz regiment? Are the Morskaya Pekhota (Marines) considered spetsnaz?

Thanks!

Spetnaz means special purpose... all branches of the military and militia have their own Spetznaz. It has different purposes depending on the service. The navy does have its own Spetznaz... Marines are not Spetznaz.

So, I suppose that the marines have their own spetsnaz. Is that true?

No.

http://dss.army.lv/preface.htm

The KGB also had a naval spetsnaz ...well kind. Back in the day Alfa and Vymple had naval unit's trained by instructors from GRU's Navel sabotage unit's.

True.

Being in Singapore, with all sort of 'western-oriented' sources and combined them with the Russian sources make me freaking confused. I think I should be a lot more certain when I move to Vladivostok permanently next year. In Singapore, we tend to equalize the GRU (foreign intelligence) and spetsnaz overall.

"If you see a guy with rebreather gear (ie no bubbles) and an underwater rifle or pistol then they are probably Naval spetsnaz."

I think that Naval spetsnaz is very wide in definition, it could be scout, or reconnaissance team. While in MVD or FSB it is mainly for counter terrorism, and anti-riot units, and have their own names such as Vityaz, 604 TsSN, Saturn, Rosich, Rus', etc.

Is that true? I am novice to Russian military (xaxa)

Talking about GRU, I heard that GRU exists in every part of Armed force. So, the Russian VMF also has its own GRU detachment?

I wouldn't be surprised that even a Russian post office has a spetsnaz unit.

Seriously it's a giant mess right now.


and Garry those divers could be OB PDSS or FSB frogmen or MVD frogmen.

of course SVR has thair own frogmen too. Or should have at least ..the kgb had ..besides the Alfa and Vymple who had their own frogmen.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MA1IFKwdAQ
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQLBW5Olm0c

Shooting underwater isn't really effective with gunpowder.

....But water molecules line themselves up to a magnetic field. If you could induce a magnetic field with the water molecules lined up, and you have a monopole magnet for a bullet....in theory you could shoot underwater.

Nobody has figured out how to make a monopole magnet yet. Figured that out and you revolutionize Naval warfare/ship propulsion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_monopole

Water molecules lining up to a magnetic field is interesting. As you line them up theres a release of energy. Get two glasses of water. Separate them by 1 foot. Take a multimeter and put one electrode in 1 glass of water, and drop the other electrode in the other. Set the multimeter to milliVolts/DC. Take your left hand and use three fingers and gently rub the left glass in one direction, either up or down. Only 1 direction. Faster you go the more voltage differential you see on meter.

How is that possible? GLASS is in an insulator. Separated by 1 foot. Your hand is inducing a magnetic field on the water and the water molecules want to line up. Now take a magnet and do the same thing.

You killed it. No more voltage. Not even if you try using your hand next. Why? Your magnet had a North Pole and South Pole which disrupted the water. Take your left hand and put a finger in glass, take your right and put in other glass at same time..."shorting" the water.

OK....water now ready for programming again to show voltage difference if molecules get lined up again.

Another neat experiment, take a magnet and throw it in a plastic cup with some water and freeze it. After it's frozen dump the icecube out. Notice the ice shows molecules in water lined up to magnetic field with ice arcs?


Only way to "shoot" in water is with magnetic field technology. Master that and you could also fly in the air and then use same craft to fly into water..like UFO.

Pretty nasty projectiles I would say!

New French Rebreathers for Russian Navy Divers

SEVASTOPOL, April 2 (RIA Novosti)



The Russian Black Sea Fleet is considering replacing Soviet-made underwater breathing equipment used by its combat divers with new French-produced Amphora closed circuit rebreathers, a Defense Ministry spokesman said on Monday.

The respirators are currently being tested, the spokesman said. If the tests are successful, they would replace IDA-71 individual breathing apparatuses that have been used by Soviet and Russian navy divers since 1971.

The French rebreathers are lighter and smaller than their Soviet analogues and are equipped with an advanced breathing mixture supply system, the Defense Ministry spokesman said.

Unlike IDAs, which are attached to the diver’s back, the Amphora apparatus’s main unit is fastened to the chest, he said. As a result, Russian navy divers will have to undergo additional training to be able to implement their combat tasks with the new rebreathers, he added.
The Amphora is based on the combat diver Frogs (Full Range Oxygen Gas System) apparatus. It is made up of two components: a 2.1L Oxygen cylinder which provides a dive duration of 240 minutes at 7 meters, and a 2L mixture cylinder to be filled with nitrox, which gives a dive duration of 60 minutes.

http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120402/172560168.html

Whatever works for them I guess. Usually I don't like to see Russia buying foreign equipment, but if their current rebreathers really are that old then I guess it definitely couldn't hurt.

GarryB wrote:Perhaps they could pass a few of the french models on to the Russian developers so that the Russian developers can see what is expected of them and try to improve further on the design for when they need more or to upgrade?

A good idea. It could possibly be like when they purchased some of those French FELIN systems. They could just be studying and evaluating them. Then they'll work to develop their own version.

I hope anyways.

Do the Russian naval infantry or naval spetsnaz guys or anyone else use ekranoplans, like the A-90?