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Militarov wrote:"Canada to start a new fighter competition programme

The new Canadian government intends to start from scratch the programme for the new fighter aircraft to replace the Boeing CF-18, according to Reuters. The newly elected Liberals have decided to scrap the Lockheed Martin F-35 acquisition plans and seek a more affordable solution. A new request for proposals will be issued along with a new list of specifications that will have nothing to do with the previously submitted bids."

People mentioning Dassault Rafale as favored choice in this renewed programme.

Source: http://worlddefencenews.blogspot.rs/2015/10/canada-to-start-new-fighter-competition.html

That was fast, so this basically gonna be a Typhoon vs the Rafale competition.

I expect them to restart whole competition, launch new one basically, so i guess US will try with Super Hornets and i kinda expect Gripen NG, i highly doubt SAAB will miss a chance to try obtaining another contract. Depends what starting requests will be set, US might even try with F15SE, you never know.

That's to be expected, but it's basically gonna come to the Typhoon vs the Rafale.

Not sure why, i have some feeling in my guts Super Hornet has nice chances here, coz they already used its older brother.

What, i thought they were already using the Super Hornet, that changes things, considering this is being done for economic reasons the SH will probably win.

And afterwords they'll have enough cash to invest in the updated Avro Arrow, you know jobs and whatnot.

Ye, they are using CF-18 Hornet which is basically F/A-18 Hornet. Super Hornet would be significant update, and still would cost alot less than F35, partially due to fact pilots would require quite cheap training compared to switching to totally new platform.

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cracker Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:19 am

Canada should get the Rafale, it's not even disputable. The UK should have gotten the Rafale, now they are stuck with a mediocre typhoon and joke named F-35 (not available before what, 4 years more?). Basically it's the best multirole fighter if you only got to have one type of aircraft. Canada smallish airforce will do great with that. If they go again with some american plane, it's pure lobbying. Gripen is useless, it's a cheap plane for the poorer countries that still want a decent and cheap to operate aircraft. Kind of F-16 alternative. Canada-France relations would benefit greatly of a good rafale deal. (80% produced in canada maybe)

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cracker wrote:Canada should get the Rafale, it's not even disputable. The UK should have gotten the Rafale, now they are stuck with a mediocre typhoon and joke named F-35 (not available before what, 4 years more?). Basically it's the best multirole fighter if you only got to have one type of aircraft. Canada smallish airforce will do great with that. If they go again with some american plane, it's pure lobbying. Gripen is useless, it's a cheap plane for the poorer countries that still want a decent and cheap to operate aircraft. Kind of F-16 alternative. Canada-France relations would benefit greatly of a good rafale deal. (80% produced in canada maybe)

Well its not that easy, while Rafale is truly very good multirole all round platform, EF2000 outperforms it in some fields, atm especially in far wider range of armaments available and somewhat more potent A-A capabilities.

To be frank Gripen is not that cheap either, and Hungarians seem to have found it quite more expencive to operate than it was claimed by SaaB. But if Canada would go for Gripen it would be Gripen NG which should be quite good fighter, alot of stuff in fairly small platform. Well 80% is abit too much, France tends to be quite conservative when its about Know-How and licence building, but assembly for sure would be possible.

US lobby in Canada is very strong, so they might try to get away from F35 and get Super Hornet instead, to mend relations they affected abit by bailing from F35 purchase, but thats just now my speculation.

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GarryB Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:39 am

Does Canada need a modern fighter... why not fit a radar to a modern light business jet and use them as multirole aircraft... VIP business transport and air patrol aircraft... Laughing

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cracker wrote:Canada should get the Rafale, it's not even disputable. The UK should have gotten the Rafale, now they are stuck with a mediocre typhoon and joke named F-35 (not available before what, 4 years more?). Basically it's the best multirole fighter if you only got to have one type of aircraft. Canada smallish airforce will do great with that. If they go again with some american plane, it's pure lobbying. Gripen is useless, it's a cheap plane for the poorer countries that still want a decent and cheap to operate aircraft. Kind of F-16 alternative. Canada-France relations would benefit greatly of a good rafale deal. (80% produced in canada maybe)

Well its not that easy, while Rafale is truly very good multirole all round platform, EF2000 outperforms it in some fields, atm especially in far wider range of armaments available and somewhat more potent A-A capabilities.

To be frank Gripen is not that cheap either, and Hungarians seem to have found it quite more expencive to operate than it was claimed by SaaB. But if Canada would go for Gripen it would be Gripen NG which should be quite good fighter, alot of stuff in fairly small platform. Well 80% is abit too much, France tends to be quite conservative when its about Know-How and licence building, but assembly for sure would be possible.

US lobby in Canada is very strong, so they might try to get away from F35 and get Super Hornet instead, to mend relations they affected abit by bailing from F35 purchase, but thats just now my speculation.

No.

If what I heard and believe is correct, then, Rafale, EF Typhoon, Gripen,... and other EU canards are just s3xtoys. Their aerodynamic characteristics are even inferior than MiG-21.

It's not like I understand all the details, but as far as I know, the largest weakness of EU canards is that, they have poor maneuverability and cannot achieve high AoA. Their wings and hulls completely block the vertical stab at high AoA. That means, at high AoA, EU canards' vertical stab lost its function, and EU canard lost the stability and fall or even broken.

Meanwhile, for MiG-21, the horizontal tail and the wing lie in different planes, between them is a big gap. At high AoA, wind can go through that gap to access the vertical stab, prevents it from lost the function. For fighters like MiG-25/31, F-15, Su-27...37, Mig-29/35, people make 2 vertical stabs at the edge of the hull, so that the hull won't block the vertical stab at high AoA.

For MiG 1.44, it is similar to EU canards, but people make 2 vertical stabs and the edge of the hull, and parts of the vertical stabs are not blocked by the wings. And the vertical stabs are angled outwards to access the wind. So that MiG 1.44 can achieve reasonable AoA. But still MiG 1.44 probably is less maneuverable than Su-27 or MiG-29.

All that means, EU canards can't have high AoA, and no high AoA means pathetic maneuverability, no ability to make a quick turn, cannot quickly change direction => very terrible in air fight. Meanwhile, MiG-25/31, F-15, Su-27...37, Mig-29/35 have good maneverability.

EU canards design, similar to A-12/SR-71, is only good for dashing foward at very high speed and can fly long distance, but for achieving this the design virtually sacrifice maneuverability and stability. In short, EU canards are pure s3xtoys.

Not to mention that, even with such "dashing foward" design, EU canards have pathetic max speed. Rafale is M1.8, Typhoon is M2.2. Meanwhile Su-27 is M2.35 and F-15 is M2.5. That means EU canards's engines are pathetic.

About Rafale... it is the most s3xtoy amongst EU canards. Rafale has ram inlet, same level at MiG-19 (while MiG-21 already has more advanced conical inlet, and MiG-25/31, F-15, Su-27...37, Mig-29/35 have electronically controlled intake ramps). It has pathetic max speed (only M1.8, even slower than Su-30), the radar is pure s3xtoy and has terrible resolution.

I expect nothing from Rafale, it is the living fossil from MiG-21 era.

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Guest Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:51 pm

GarryB wrote:Does Canada need a modern fighter... why not fit a radar to a modern light business jet and use them as multirole aircraft... VIP business transport and air patrol aircraft...

Haha, well Canadians actually kinda boast quite significant armed forces...i guess they need to have capabilities of certain standard to answer the call of NATO masters when needed Smile

But as you said really they wouldnt need anything more powerful than Super Tucano A29s as "fighter". Who is going to invade Canada, Eskimos?

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Militarov wrote:

GarryB wrote:Does Canada need a modern fighter... why not fit a radar to a modern light business jet and use them as multirole aircraft... VIP business transport and air patrol aircraft...

Haha, well Canadians actually kinda boast quite significant armed forces...i guess they need to have capabilities of certain standard to answer the call of NATO masters when needed But as you said really they wouldnt need anything more powerful than Super Tucano A29s as "fighter". Who is going to invade Canada, Eskimos?

In many ways the Canadians face similar problems to the Russian's north, very long distances between airfields and cities. That makes for similar solutions, a Mig-31 class plane but that is now too specialist for MICs.

The Canadians really have to buy US to have any chance of preserving their F-35 related manufacturing contracts. As Lockheed don't have a current compliant alternative and given their experience with the Hornet, it would be a brave person to bet against the Super Hornet.

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Militarov wrote:

GarryB wrote:Does Canada need a modern fighter... why not fit a radar to a modern light business jet and use them as multirole aircraft... VIP business transport and air patrol aircraft...

Haha, well Canadians actually kinda boast quite significant armed forces...i guess they need to have capabilities of certain standard to answer the call of NATO masters when needed But as you said really they wouldnt need anything more powerful than Super Tucano A29s as "fighter". Who is going to invade Canada, Eskimos?

In many ways the Canadians face similar problems to the Russian's north, very long distances between airfields and cities. That makes for similar solutions, a Mig-31 class plane but that is now too specialist for MICs.

The Canadians really have to buy US to have any chance of preserving their F-35 related manufacturing contracts. As Lockheed don't have a current compliant alternative and given their experience with the Hornet, it would be a brave person to bet against the Super Hornet.

Big country, big area, but no enemy. They could basically deal with most of their needs with good maritime patrol platfrom and advanced trainers. But they choose not to. Cos only possible enemy would be Russia, and i dont see Russia being interested in Canada whatsoever. US would gladly station their F15s in Canada to intercept eventual Russian bomber training flights etc. Canada has big army/airforce simply due to tradition and NATO membership.

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Militarov wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

Militarov wrote:

GarryB wrote:Does Canada need a modern fighter... why not fit a radar to a modern light business jet and use them as multirole aircraft... VIP business transport and air patrol aircraft...

Haha, well Canadians actually kinda boast quite significant armed forces...i guess they need to have capabilities of certain standard to answer the call of NATO masters when needed But as you said really they wouldnt need anything more powerful than Super Tucano A29s as "fighter". Who is going to invade Canada, Eskimos?

In many ways the Canadians face similar problems to the Russian's north, very long distances between airfields and cities. That makes for similar solutions, a Mig-31 class plane but that is now too specialist for MICs.

The Canadians really have to buy US to have any chance of preserving their F-35 related manufacturing contracts. As Lockheed don't have a current compliant alternative and given their experience with the Hornet, it would be a brave person to bet against the Super Hornet.

Big country, big area, but no enemy. They could basically deal with most of their needs with good maritime patrol platfrom and advanced trainers. But they choose not to. Cos only possible enemy would be Russia, and i dont see Russia being interested in Canada whatsoever. US would gladly station their F15s in Canada to intercept eventual Russian bomber training flights etc. Canada has big army/airforce simply due to tradition and NATO membership.

Canada is under the impression that the Arctic belongs to them, hence why they see Russia as a active threat.

I would love to see the Canadians try to fight Russia for the Arctic. Would be quite entertaining watching the Canucks get slaughtered. At this point, it would be a very lopsided and quick war that would not play out in Canada's favor, and the gap between Russia and Canada will continue to increase.

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Canada is under the impression that the Arctic belongs to them, hence why they see Russia as a active threat.

I would love to see the Canadians try to fight Russia for the Arctic. Would be quite entertaining watching the Canucks get slaughtered. At this point, it would be a very lopsided and quick war that would not play out in Canada's favor, and the gap between Russia and Canada will continue to increase.

Bears vs. Canucks? Sounds like a hockey game... lol1

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Canadian Troops in Europe Just 'Preventive Measure' – OSCE PA Delegate

http://sputniknews.com/military/20160701/1042272337/canadian-troops-europe-russia.html

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An Update On Replacing Canada's CF-18 Fleet

Ottawa will scrap the requirements that were developed by the Canadian Forces and used by the previous Conservative government to justify the sole-source purchase of F-35s, giving itself leeway to buy another aircraft to replace Canada’s aging fleet of CF-18s.

The move stands to change the outcome of one of the biggest and most controversial military procurements in Canadian history.

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New lease of life: delivering the HCM/FELEX programme

he Halifax-class frigates will remain the backbone of the Royal Canadian Navy's surface fleet out to at least 2030.

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Canada chose the British type 26 frigate

The Government of Canada on October 19, 2018 officially announced that, in conjunction with the Canadian shipbuilding corporation Irving Shipbuilding Inc. it chose Lockheed Martin Corporation of Canada (Lockheed Martin Canada Inc.) as the preferred supplier in the tender for the construction of the 15 Canadian Surface Combatant (CSC) frigates for the Royal Canadian Navy. Headed by Lockheed Martin Canada Inc. Canada's Combat Ship Team consortium is proposing a frigate project based on the new British frigate type 26. The Combat Ship Team consortium also includes BAE Systems (the developer of the frigate type 26 Global Combat Ship) and CAE, MDA, L3 Technologies and Ultra Electronics.

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GarryB Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:46 am

....wow... heating, ventilation, and air conditioning... how 21st Century... I mean that is like leaping from a horse and cart... which has ventilation but no heating or air conditioning... to a car from the 1950s with heating and air con.... what will they think of next...

Kinda get the feeling they felt they needed to fill all the gaps... probably just as well they went for that instead of indoor plumbing and running water from a tap... you know... IPRWfaT..

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d_taddei2 Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:47 pm

anymore news on Canadian aircraft replacement ? I believe they are looking at replacement for 2025 so still some time yet. As some have said no real need for advanced aircraft but we all know that they will buy such due to NATO requirements and the big bad russian threat lol.

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Canada received the first two former Australian F/A-18A fighters.

In 2018, the Canadian government entered into an agreement worth $ 90 million to acquire 25 F/A-18A/B fighter jets withdrawn from the Australian Air Force, of which 18 must be added to the Canadian Air Force after repair and upgrades to maintain a fleet of similar Canadian fighters CF-18 (CF-188A/B, also known as F/A-18A/B), Another seven former Australian aircraft must be used for spare parts. Deliveries of the former Australian F / A-18A / B must be made before the end of 2021.

The purchase of retired Australian F/A-18A/B became necessary after the refusal of the Canadian government for political and economic reasons after a lengthy altercation from the purchase of fifth-generation American fighters Lockheed Martin F-35A (despite Canada’s participation in the "third level" ), which caused problems with maintaining the fleet of Canadian fighters CF-18 (F/A-18A/B). In 1982-1988, the Canadian Air Force received 138 CF-18 fighter jets (98 single and 40 double), of which only 76 aircraft remain in service (20 aircraft were lost in flight accidents and 41 were already deducted from the resource or due to "cannibalization" of spare parts).

The procurement program of 25 Australian F/A-18A/B, taking into account the cost of repairs and improvements to 18 machines put into operation, is estimated at 500 million Canadian dollars. Planned aircraft will be distributed between the 3rd and 4th wings of the Canadian Air Force equipped CF-18 fighters. The acquisition of old Australian aircraft caused sharp criticism in Canada.

Currently, the Government of Canada intends to announce in 2019 another tender for the purchase of 88 new fighters to replace the CF-18 fleet, with the participation of the same F-35A. However, the entry into service of the Canadian Air Force of new fighters on the basis of this tender is expected no earlier than 2025.

The Australian Air Force received 75 F/A-18A/B fighters from 1984 to 1990, at the end of 2018, 69 aircraft remained in service, starting from 2019 to begin to be replaced with F-35A fighter jets, which allowed them to sell 25 Hornet to Canada. Full withdrawal of F/A-18A/B from the armament of the Australian Air Force is expected by 2025.

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Big country, big area, but no enemy. They could basically deal with most of their needs with good maritime patrol platfrom and advanced trainers. But they choose not to.

New Zealand is a small country but a large patch of sea to keep an eye on and in realistic terms no real enemy, so a medium sized airliner with a nice big radar and BVR missiles would be fine... we could duplicate the systems and have a twin aircraft optimised for Maritime Patrol, and another aircraft with a radar on its back as an AWACS platform... there are many countries that, if they are honest... that would be all they needed to patrol their airspace easily and efficiently and cheaply.

Half way down the midsection you could fit an enormous rotary launcher for AAMs with say fifty missiles per 3-4m long rotary section... fit 4-5 sections and have an arsenal plane that operates with normal fighters over enemy territory shooting at everything the enemy can get airborne and all the missiles the enemy could launch at you...

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Big country, big area, but no enemy. They could basically deal with most of their needs with good maritime patrol platfrom and advanced trainers. But they choose not to.

New Zealand is a small country but a large patch of sea to keep an eye on and in realistic terms no real enemy, so a medium sized airliner with a nice big radar and BVR missiles would be fine... we could duplicate the systems and have a twin aircraft optimised for Maritime Patrol, and another aircraft with a radar on its back as an AWACS platform... there are many countries that, if they are honest... that would be all they needed to patrol their airspace easily and efficiently and cheaply.

Half way down the midsection you could fit an enormous rotary launcher for AAMs with say fifty missiles per 3-4m long rotary section... fit 4-5 sections and have an arsenal plane that operates with normal fighters over enemy territory shooting at everything the enemy can get airborne and all the missiles the enemy could launch at you...

think ur spot on with this only thing I'd add is a couple of squadrons of advanced multi role trainers to deal with smaller or agile targets and for any potential high jack of airliners 9/11 type scenario as well as being to perform AA missions could also provide recce, maritime, ground attack functions the aircraft themselves don't need to super fast. If u choose Russian systems yak-130 would be enough although new Zealand could go a step further with mig-29m2/smt as they have the cash to do so. But that would be the fancy option lol and it would keep some sceptics (using trainers as seen as bad) happy that a proper fighter is in service. obviously mig-29 would be fast aircraft which isn't really needed but still an advantage.

As u said many countries go ott when it comes to their needs wasting money when something cheaper could be used Russia pretty much has something for every budget and threat level only thing missing from Russian market is a turboprop COIN fighter but Brazils super tucano has pretty much dominated that market and it's a great aircraft and it wouldn't be worth Russia pursuing that market.

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GarryB Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:33 am

Even with a labour government in power in NZ we wont waver too far from the US line, so no major purchases of Russian equipment any time soon.

Personally I really don't think we need any fighters of any type... we just have no use for them... at most we could afford perhaps half a dozen really good fighters which would be expensive because there are so few and would likely only protect the north island anyway, or we could get two dozen cheap less capable fighters... and lets face it... any enemy that could get here in force that would require us to have fighters would cream the token good force or deplete the larger force of less capable fighters fairly easily.

The only time we would use fighters would be as part of a coalition of other countries and other countries are keen to send fighters anyway... what use would a couple more kiwi fighters bring to any western coalition?

On the other hand if we bought some decent transport aircraft... but C-17s are too expensive, and Russian planes are out of the question so we are screwed.

Most coalitions around the world would welcome transport aircraft support most of the time, and when not supporting peace keeping operations around the world we could let them operate commercially to support our allies and outer lying commitments in the region... our C-130s are slow and have very limited range with a payload... Il-476 aircraft can operate from very rough strips and have excellent range and payload and are not half a billion dollars each like the C-17s are.

But we wont consider that because we are americas bitch and she will get shitty with us if we stop drinking the kool aide... Canada is pretty much in the same boat... if they stop buying what the US wants to sell the entire fabric of reality will collapse...

A medium sized airliner with good long range cruise performance, a big powerful radar and lots of air to air missiles is a perfectly acceptable alternative to the hot rods used today by most militaries... and would be a fraction of the cost to operate... you could use it to transfer goods and people to outlying settlements which would be a serious bonus for Canada... but it wont effect the air trade in the outer regions because they would still need small planes to go into inaccessible places...

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Odin of Ossetia Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:15 pm

Canada Forbidding its Troops from Leaving Canada, and from Returning from Missions Abroad, due to the COVID-19 Outbreak.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/canadian-military-personnel-told-not-to-leave-country-as-government-plans-to-deal-with-covid-19/ar-BB119uk1?ocid=SKY2DHP

Apparently a few thousand of the Canadian troops will be stranded outside of Canada for an indefinite period of time.

Also, wife of Canada's prime minister is confirmed to be infected with COVID-19, while the prime minister is reportedly in precautionary "self-isolation."

Canadian Military: "COVID-19 Outbreak Might Embolden Adversaries."

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/military-making-covid-19-plans-amid-worries-crisis-will-embolden-adversaries/ar-BB119fIO?ocid=SKY2DHP

Poland's top military officer and the commander of the Italian Army both are confirmed to be infected with COVID-19.

The Polish commander was apparently infected while attending a NATO meeting in Germany. I am curious who else was present there.

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Odin of Ossetia Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:38 pm

Royal Canadian Navy Receives Its First Ever Arctic and Offshore Patrol Ship.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/navy-enters-new-era-by-welcoming-long-awaited-arctic-warship-into-fleet/ar-BB17oYnt?ocid=SKY2DHP

It will receive a few more of these ships in the future.

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JohninMK Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:07 pm

No the competition begins. I'd say it was Boeing's to lose given they are the incumbent supplier with the earlier F-18 plus a load from Australia recently.

Boeing has formally submitted its Block III F/A-18E/F Super Hornet to the Royal Canadian Air Force's competition to select its next fighter jet. The company also released concept art of the configuration it is pitching to the Canadians, which shows aircraft equipped with conformal fuel tanks, carrying a podded infrared search and track sensor, and armed with an impressive 12 AIM-120 Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missiles and a pair of shorter-range AIM-9X Sidewinders. Lockheed Martin is also competing with its F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and Saab has submitted its Gripen E.

The Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) is hoping to receive 88 new fighter jets to replace its existing CF-18A/B+ Hornets under what is officially known as the Future Fighter Capability Project (FFCP). Canada's Public Services and Procurement department announced that it had received all three formal proposals on July 31, 2020. The final contract could be worth between 15 and 19 Billion Canadian dollars, or between around $11.2 billion and nearly $14.2 billion in U.S. dollars at the present rate of conversion.

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Canadian authorities hope to pick the winner of the FFCP competition in 2022. The goal is to have the first new fighter jet touch down in the country in 2025.

The competition over who will supply Canada's next fighter jet already looks set to be fierce in the coming years.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/35272/boeing-shows-super-hornets-bristling-with-14-missiles-in-formal-sales-pitch-to-canada

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Sujoy Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:11 pm

The offer from Boeing for Canada suggest that F/A-18 will be able to carry 14 air to air missiles.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/35272/boeing-shows-super-hornets-bristling-with-14-missiles-in-formal-sales-pitch-to-canada

6 AIM-120 and 1 AIM-9 in each wing
IRST is on a modified drop tank
Probably a special SEAD/DEAD package

F/A-18 on offer has newer cockpit design, HMS, Litening and Towed decoy and an IRST

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Isos Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:17 pm

No the competition begins. I'd say it was Boeing's to lose given they are the incumbent supplier with the earlier F-18 plus a load from Australia recently

Not it doesn't. They will buy what US propose. There is no competition.

6 AIM-120 and 1 AIM-9 in each wing
IRST is on a modified drop tank
Probably a special SEAD/DEAD package

It will be a heavy load. And since Canada is huge they will always need fuel tanks which means they can't go that far because if they release the tanks for a fight they won't have enough to fight and come back.

Also I don't understand why they keep trying to make it stealthy with an external weapon bay. Even naked it's easy to spot on radars. Add anything else it will be easier.

They should take the f-15.

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