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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:42 am

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    So Yak-133 "Proryv" is to be fielded after all...

    10 ton  1100km/h, stealth  drone...


    http://newinform.com/13749-yak-133br-opasnyy-proryv-rossii
    http://foto-i-mir.ru/yak-133-proruv/


    08.09.2016



    Corporation "Irkut" has started testing unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) in the framework of development work "Breakthrough" (previously known as project "Yak-133"). The device is able to conduct reconnaissance and, if necessary, destroy enemy targets, while remaining invisible to his radar. Novelty is based on the original aerodynamic design and looks very different from traditional aircraft.
    In the future, the newest drone will be equipped with guided missiles "air-land" and the bombs and opto-electronic systems and complexes of electronic intelligence and even radar.
    The armament of the UAV until the end is not yet determined, but it is already known that a stationary target UAV will destroy the bombs with laser and optical homing and guided by the GLONASS signal.
    http://izvestia.ru/


    STRIKE UNMANNED AERIAL VEHICLE UC-133 "BREAKTHROUGH"

    Blah BLAH Yak-133БР family "Breakthrough" being developed, as already mentioned, on the basis of the Yak-130, so the UAV has much in common with combat aircraft.All three versions represent a modern and powerful drones that have the names of the "Breakthrough-U" (drums), "Breakthrough-R" (reconnaissance), "Breakthrough-RLD" (radar watch).According to the draft of the new UAV will have the following technical characteristics: the service ceiling of the UAV "Break-In" amounts to 16,000 m, "Breakthrough-R" — m 20000 "Breakthrough-RLD" — 14000 m. the Starting mass "Breakthrough" will be 10000 kg, "Breakthrough-R" — 9800 kg, "Breakthrough-RLD" — 10000 kg Mass of the target equipment "Break-In" will reach 1,000 to 3,000 kg, "Breakthrough-R" — 1000 to 1200 kg, "Breakthrough-RLD" — 1000 kg.
    Speed drones are not inferior to a good combat aircraft, and even surpass them: "Break-In" will be accelerated to 1100 km/h, "Breakthrough-R" — 750 km/h, "Breakthrough-RLD" — 750 km/h. the duration of the flight all three aircraft are different, for example, "Breakthrough", will be able to fly for 20 hours, "Breakthrough-RLD" — 16, "Breakthrough-R" — only for 6 hours. All three vessels are designed to overcome long distances.

    Sources: http://newinform.com/13749-yak-133br-opasnyy-proryv-rossii

    TRAINING AND COMBAT AIRCRAFT YAK-130
    OPYTNO-KONSTRUKTORSKOE BYURO IM. A. S. YAKOVLEV

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    Post  Guest Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:14 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News - Page 23 1463923225_images

    So Yak-133 "Proryv" is to be fielded after all...



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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:02 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News - Page 23 1463923225_images

    So Yak-133 "Proryv" is to be fielded after all...




    letme guess French created aerodynamics laws and Russians just copied them? otherwise similar requirements, similar form designed by computer Smile
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:20 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:

    let me guess French created aerodynamics laws and Russians just copied them? otherwise similar requirements, similar form designed by computer Smile
    They both just dug out those 1940s German plans stolen at the end of WW2.
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    Post  Guest Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:23 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News - Page 23 1463923225_images

    So Yak-133 "Proryv" is to be fielded after all...




    letme guess French created aerodynamics laws and Russians just copied them? otherwise similar requirements, similar form designed by computer Smile

    Well aerodynamical layouts are created by men, then optimised and tested by computers most of the time.

    I am just pointing out extreme similarity between the designs Smile
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    Post  storm333 Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:22 pm

    [quote="Militarov"][quote="GunshipDemocracy"][quote="Militarov"]
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News - Page 23 1463923225_images



    Well aerodynamical layouts are created by men, then optimised and tested by computers most of the time.

    I am just pointing out extreme similarity between the designs Smile

    Morphed-wing designs provide better lift. With flybywire and Automatic balancing modes in autopilot flight controllers they can now be handled much easier. Another advantage is stealth with regards to rcs.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:09 am

    I am just pointing out extreme similarity between the designs

    You mean like the fact that the F-15 looks rather like the MiG-25 and that the F-22 is just a stealthy F-15...
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:33 am

    I am glad that Yak-130 family will be extended. I just wonder if Russia UAV can have also bigger share in civilian market ?



    Militarov wrote: Well aerodynamical layouts are created by men, then optimised and
    tested by computers most of the time.

    I am just pointing out extreme similarity between the designs Smile

    Meeh we in EU know than aggressive Putin is behing this similarity lol! lol! lol!
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    Post  Guest Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:20 am

    GarryB wrote:
    I am just pointing out extreme similarity between the designs

    You mean like the fact that the F-15 looks rather like the MiG-25 and that the F-22 is just a stealthy F-15...

    This however goes way beyond "it reminds of", 90% of Neuron and this drawing we have at this moment are the same, identical.

    I am not going into capabilities or anything in terms of onboard equipment as it probably does not exist yet, but in terms of aerodynamical solution.... its almost the same damn thing.

    We sure can say its further development of SKAT template but, lets be honest Russians borrowed this one big time.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:04 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    I am just pointing out extreme similarity between the designs

    You mean like the fact that the F-15 looks rather like the MiG-25 and that the F-22 is just a stealthy F-15...

    This however goes way beyond "it reminds of", 90% of Neuron and this drawing we have at this moment are the same, identical.

    I am not going into capabilities or anything in terms of onboard equipment as it probably does not exist yet, but in terms of aerodynamical solution.... its almost the same damn thing.

    We sure can say its further development of SKAT template but, lets be honest Russians borrowed this one big time.
    Maybe with a little help from an RQ-170 that didn't return home. Which also had some very interesting stuff inside. Allegedly.
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    Post  Guest Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:17 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    I am just pointing out extreme similarity between the designs

    You mean like the fact that the F-15 looks rather like the MiG-25 and that the F-22 is just a stealthy F-15...

    This however goes way beyond "it reminds of", 90% of Neuron and this drawing we have at this moment are the same, identical.

    I am not going into capabilities or anything in terms of onboard equipment as it probably does not exist yet, but in terms of aerodynamical solution.... its almost the same damn thing.

    We sure can say its further development of SKAT template but, lets be honest Russians borrowed this one big time.
    Maybe with a little help from an RQ-170 that didn't return home. Which also had some very interesting stuff inside. Allegedly.

    Thats plausible too, but in terms of what we can see, this shares alot more with Neuron than RQ. But sure, if some of the "avionics" from RQ-180 found their way to Russia it could prove extremly useful.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:59 pm

    There is only one issue. The Yak 133 is twice as heavy as the Neuron and from what is being announced it has almost twice the payload and has a higher ceiling according to variants.

    This has to be a distant derivative of the Yak 130 although it looks lardy.
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    Post  Isos Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:04 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    I am just pointing out extreme similarity between the designs

    You mean like the fact that the F-15 looks rather like the MiG-25 and that the F-22 is just a stealthy F-15...

    This however goes way beyond "it reminds of", 90% of Neuron and this drawing we have at this moment are the same, identical.

    I am not going into capabilities or anything in terms of onboard equipment as it probably does not exist yet, but in terms of aerodynamical solution.... its almost the same damn thing.

    We sure can say its further development of SKAT template but, lets be honest Russians borrowed this one big time.

    Neuron is based on B-2 design. I've seen somewhere that US gave them the technical datas for it. It's a really simple design so it's normal they look the same.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:45 pm

    Gents I guess I have found the reason why.  Although it took this pic from quoted source it might be actual Neuron Merde! But just an educated guess.


    I did some Yandex-fu/googler-fu with Prorvv an d Yak keywords and...none of actual pic, only CG in theme of layouts from Yak early 2000s but no pics...yet Smile))


    this is from original Yak´s site
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    flaps Frenchie? however this is 9 years old pic of MiG Skat - look at flaps... (wow again French layout before French?)

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    and this beast of Ulyanovsk 2014
    http://military-informant.com/airforca/1-sp-676800061.html

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    Post  Guest Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:08 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:Gents I guess I have found the reason why.  Although it took this pic from quoted source it might be actual Neuron Merde! But just an educated guess.


    I did some Yandex-fu/googler-fu with Prorvv an d Yak keywords and...none of actual pic, only CG in theme of layouts from Yak early 2000s but no pics...yet Smile))


    this is from original Yak´s site
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    flaps Frenchie? however this is 9 years old pic of MiG Skat - look at flaps... (wow again French layout before French?)

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    and this beast of Ulyanovsk 2014
    http://military-informant.com/airforca/1-sp-676800061.html

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    Actually... Neuron is just latest in the line of few Dassault projects based around same platform which goes back to mid 90s.

    http://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/passion/aircraft/military-dassault-aircraft/ave/

    Also from what we are aware SKAT never went further from full size mockup.
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    Post  George1 Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:33 pm

    Russian Eastern Military District unit gets cutting-edge unmanned aircraft

    VLADIVOSTOK, November 3. /TASS/. The unmanned aircraft unit of Russia’s Eastern Military District deployed to the Amur region has received a shipment of new Eleron-3 unmanned aircraft that will allow to conduct round-the-clock reconnaissance missions and transfer data via secured channels, Eastern Military District Spokesman Colonel Alexander Gordeyev told TASS on Thursday.

    "The Eleron-3 unmanned aircraft is equipped with a low-noise electric engine and the GLONASS/GPS navigation devices. It has reduced optical, acoustic and radar signature and is designed to carry replaceable photo and video cameras, a thermal imager, a jamming station and other useful devices," Gordeyev elaborated.

    The unmanned aircraft is capable of operating at various heights and in various temperatures over 50 kilometers away from the ground control station.

    According to Gordeyev, operators for this unmanned aircraft have already been retrained at the Defense Ministry’s Training Center for Unmanned Aviation.


    More:
    http://tass.com/defense/910368
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    Post  Benya Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:00 pm

    Russian troops have used an upgraded version of Tachyon UAV during military exercise in Serbia.

    The Russian, Belarusian and Serbian airborne units participating in Exercise Slavic Brotherhood 2016 in Serbia have used an upgraded Russian-made Tachyon unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) to coordinate their efforts during airdrops, the Russian Defense Ministry’s press office told journalists.

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    Russian army soldiers train with Tachyon unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) during military exercise (Archive image)

    The Slavic Brotherhood international tactical exercise of Russian, Belarusian and Serbian military units was kicked off near Belgrade on November 2 until November 15, with about 200 Russian service members participating.

    "The trilateral interaction of Russian, Belarusian and Serbian units and the coordination during the airdrops were carried out when the troops worked to achieve cohesion. In addition, a training session was held to designate targets for Serbian field artillery elements and conduct air reconnaissance to reconnoiter the [optional] enemy’s positions more accurately," the press office said.

    Russian airborne scouts also used the UAV to coordinate actions. According to the press office, a Tachyon UAV with an upgraded software package and advanced night-vision cameras has been used at the exercise.

    "The Tachyon unmanned aircraft will conduct real-time electro-optical reconnaissance," the Defense Ministry said.

    It also noted that the UAV was capable of air reconnaissance, control field artillery fires and coordinate the troops in the drop zone in the face of heavy countermeasures and radioactive, chemical or biological contamination. The drone is designed for operating five to 40 km behind the forward line of own troops.

    Source: Arrow http://www.armyrecognition.com/november_2016_global_defense_security_news_industry/russian_troops_have_used_an_upgraded_version_of_tachyon_uav_during_military_exercise_in_serbia_tass_10911165.html
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    Post  George1 Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:34 am

    VLADIVOSTOK, November 17. /TASS/. Units of the Eastern Military District received 10 new unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) "Orlan-10" and "Eleron-3" in 2016, head of the district’s press service Alexander Gordeyev said on Thursday.

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    Post  Benya Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:52 pm

    Western Military District of Russian army to receive Granat and Eleron-3 Unmanned Aerial Vehicles

    Russia’s Western Military District has received ten Granat and Eleron-3 unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) in 2016, the district’s press office said. Russian armed forces continue to extend the use of UAVs in all military units.

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    Granat-1 portable reconnaissance UAV of Russian armed forces.

    "Western Military District units have received another 10 unmanned aerial vehicles, including Granat and Eleron-3 UAVs with advanced electro-optical reconnaissance modules," the press office said.

    "Officers of the UAV service have trained more than 100 specialists who are accomplishing reconnaissance tasks and searching for a simulated enemy’s targets both in the daytime and at night in all weather conditions within crews," the press office added.

    In all, Western Military District unmanned aerial vehicles have logged more than 700 flight hours in 2016.
    Over this period, UAVs took off more than 600 times both in the daytime and at night in all weather conditions.

    The unmanned aerial vehicles have enhanced the capabilities of reconnaissance units in the field and helped avoid military personnel and hardware losses in most cases.

    The Granat-1 is a portable remotely operated suveillance drone. It has a maximum take-off weight of 2.5 kg offering a payload capacity up to 0.4 kg. It can fly at a maximum speed of 120 km/h with a maximum endurance of 1.3 hours.

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    Russian-made Eleron-3 reconnaissance UAV.

    The Eleron-3 is Russian-made reconnaissance UAV (Unmanned Aerial Vehicle). The Eleron-3 is a battery powered with maximum takeoff weight of 5.3 kg. It can fly at a speed from 50 to 130 km/h with a maximum cruising range of 25 km.

    The Eleron-3 has a flight endurance of up to 2 hours at an altitude from 1,500 to 5,000 meters. It is launched by throwing it and can land by flying close to the ground and shutting its engine off.

    Source: Arrow http://www.armyrecognition.com/december_2016_global_defense_security_news_industry/western_military_district_of_russian_army_to_receive_granat_and_eleron-3_unmanned_aerial_vehicles_11112164.html



    Another 10? I don't know what is the scale of small UAVs production, but seeing the size of these, I think that within a year, they can equip a lot, if not all reconaissance/artillery reconaissance units of a whole military district. Their range isn't much, I think that they will be issued to short-range mortar/artillery units. Most Russian artillery pieces (both towed and self-propelled howitzers and MLRS systems) have a range around/above 20-25 kilometers, so they will need a "Leer-3"/"Takhion" drone at least. MLRS regiments/brigades equipped with BM-30 "Smerch" MLRS systems will need an even longer range drone (80-100kms).
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    Post  Austin Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:37 pm

    Russia Considers Developping a Full Range of UAVs in Coming Years

    http://www.airrecognition.com/index.php/focus-analysis-photo-report-aviation-defence-industry/aviation-defence-industry-technology/3141-russia-considers-developping-a-full-range-of-uavs-in-coming-years.html


    The Russian Defense Ministry is seeking to set up a complete line of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV), including tactical and high-altitude ones, expert Denis Fedutinov writes in the pages of the Vedomosti daily. Five years ago, Russia’s lagging behind technologically developed nations by far was a commonplace in the discussion of the development of domestic UAV systems. Russian customers, among which the Defense Ministry ranks first, have done much since then to remedy the problem.

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    Russia eyes complete line of UAVs for coming years Russia's license-produced Forpost UAV

    Russia caught up quickly enough as far as small-size drones are concerned, with the military starting to buy the systems developed by Russian firms at their own expense. However, strong efforts have had to be made to launch the development of heavier unmanned aircraft. The efforts should continue, given the programs that are still in progress. Russian companies are known to be developing a number of sophisticated unmanned aircraft systems, such as a tactical UAV, two medium-altitude long-endurance (MALE) drones, high-altitude unmanned aircraft and a stealthy reconnaissance/attack UAV. In addition, an upgrade of the Forpost tactical drone has been planned.

    As to the Forpost, it is the Searcher Mk.II system from Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI), license-produced by the UZGA plant in Yekaterinburg. Initially, the acquisition of these UAVs seemed to be a forced step, but the order of another batch was reported last year. In all probability, further acquisition plans may lead to buying about more 50 systems with a total of 150 UAVs. To hedge against political risks, the system’s upgrade and an increase in its locally manufactured content have been pondered. It was reported in the media that the updated UAV would be heavier than the baseline model, with the former’s weight to stand at about 500 kg as opposed to the 436 kg of the latter. A weight increase will necessitate design modification to the airframe. In addition, plans are known for the UAV to be equipped with Russian-made avionics.

    A pure Russian tactical drone development program is Korsar. The system presumably intended as an analog of the US-made Shadow is being developed by the Rybinsk-based Luch design Bureau, a subsidiary of Vega Corp. The Korsar’s primary missions will be intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) within the 50-km radius. The supposed look of the drone was unveiled in September 2015. Its takeoff weight will be around 200 kg. Concurrently with developing the UAV, its production facility was being established in Rybinsk and statements were made that the production was scheduled to commence in late 2016 and to reach full capacity in late 2017.

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    Russia eyes complete line of UAVs for coming years Simonov Design Bureau's Altair MALE UAV project

    Two MALE-class drones are in development in Russia too. Initially, it was reported that the aircraft would have a takeoff weight of about 1 ton and 5 tons respectively. The similarity of their dimensions to those of the US-made Predator and Reaper served the ground for presuming their operational similarity as well. One of the two systems includes a medium-altitude UAV under development by the Kronstadt Group for the Russian Defense Ministry. The latter ordered its development in October 2011. The aircraft is known to weigh around 1.2 tons, with its maximum payload accounting for 300 kg. Reportedly, the UAV will be able to remain airborne for 24 hours. In spring 2016, the press reported the start of the trials of the UAV at the Gromov Flight Research Center in Zhukovsky (Moscow Region). The kick-off of its airfield performance tests indicates that the program has passed an important landmark. At the same time, its completion will apparently take a lot of time.

    The other MALE system, which has a heavier UAV designated as Altair, is being developed by the Simonov Design Bureau (previously Sokol Design Bureau) in Kazan under the Altius program. The development started in 2011. The twin-engine drone is a high-wing monoplane with a wingspan of slightly less than 30 m and the V-tail. Presumably, its maximum endurance will be 48 hours. According to Tatarstan’s government officials, the flight tests of the aircraft were kicked off in July. Tatarstan’s Prime Minister Ildar Khalikov said it was to enter production in 2018. Given the status quo of the program, the premier seems to be overly optimistic.

    Sukhoi has been developing its Okhotnik heavy hunter/killer UAV since 2012. Mikhail Pogosyan, who led the corporation at the time, said the designing of the system was to become the first cooperative effort of Sukhoi and MiG. The UAV is believed to have a takeoff weight of around 20 tons. The Northrop Grumman X-47 seems to be its closest foreign counterpart. Russia’s Military Industrial Commission Deputy Chairman Oleg Bochkaryov said in 2014 that the unmanned aircraft’s maiden flight was expected in 2018. However, the example of foreign firms, which started their work as far back as the early 2000s, leads one to believe that the completion of the program is a long-run prospect even if the UAV flies on schedule.

    Another high-altitude UAV is being co-developed by TsAGI and Myasishchev. The aircraft intended to become a technology demonstrator is being designed under the Obzor-1 program. The two companies do not release details about their program. Presumably, their drone will not be something outside the box. It is more likely to resemble the US-made high-altitude long-endurance Global Hawk. As was reported in the press, Myasishchev’s design bureau was to devise the design documentation before year-end 2016 and begin to build the first prototype in 2016. Even if all goes to plan, this is going to be a rather long-term program.

    Another high-altitude UAV, the Sova, is under development by the Tiber Company with the support by the Advanced Research Foundation (ARP). It is the so-called pseudosatellite - an aircraft capable of long-time loitering over the assigned area at an altitude higher than the one used by airliners. The drone’s power supply is performed by its solar panels. The approach is similar to the one embodied in the Zephyr UAV of Airbus that bought it from QinetiQ. A prototype with the 9-m wingspan and 12-ton takeoff weight passed its flight tests in July. The aircraft flew a mission, which duration exceeded 48 hours.

    ARF noted that the UAV would come in handy for long-term monitoring in the high latitudes and for meeting the growing demand for telecom services in the plethora of spheres.

    As the outline of the programs shows, the Russian Defense Ministry has been supervising numerous ongoing UAV research and development programs. Covering all the bases, the military tries to form as complete range of UAV types as possible. Obviously, this is not an easy thing to do for reasons beyond its control, including the shortage of competencies in this sphere, technological and personnel problems and financial issues. This makes the slippage behind schedule almost unavoidable, with some of the programs slipping pretty far behind. Nonetheless, while the development of the high-altitude strategic UAV and heavy hunter/killer drone will certainly take a long time, Russian analogs of the US-made Shadow, Predator and Reaper shouldering the bulk of the USAF’s missions may well appear soon enough, expert Denis Fedutinov writes in his article in the Vedomosti daily.
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    Post  Project Canada Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:40 pm


    These mid to large sized uavs has been in development for years, more than half a decade i would say and yet no single unit has been put to service and seem to be stuck in testing phase.
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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:10 pm

    Project Canada wrote:
    These mid to large sized uavs has been in development for years, more than half a decade i would say and yet no single unit has been put to service and seem to be stuck in testing phase.

    They weren't really doing anything serious until after Shoigu took over and Ukropistan started.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:39 am

    It is important to keep in mind that a new 10 ton class UAV is the same as trying to develop a new manned aircraft in that weight range... you can't just design and build one overnight and put it in service within a year or two.

    UAVs are more of an issue because you are relying on telemetry to find out the flight characteristics and to bring it back in one piece.

    There is a reason test pilots exist... in fact some larger UAVs might even have a cockpit to speed up flight characteristic development.
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    Post  franco Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:57 pm

    A look at the Outpost UAV, Russian development of the Israeli Searcher MK II ;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2354007.html

    My understanding is there will soon be 50 of these complexes, all with C3 container, radar, etc and 3 UAV's.
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    Post  theking950 Sat Dec 31, 2016 12:37 am

    franco wrote:A look at the Outpost UAV, Russian development of the Israeli Searcher MK II ;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2354007.html

    My understanding is there will soon be 50 of these complexes, all with C3 container, radar, etc and 3 UAV's.
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