Su-24 Fencer

GarryB wrote:
I think it is a very underrated aircraft.

GarryB wrote:First of all the Fencer is not a combat air support aircraft like the Su-25 and it would not be used to attack targets near your own troops.

Farhad Gulemov wrote:

Correct. And there were plenty of deep strike missions in Georgia (as reported by the "outraged" corporate media) and I suspect that the same was true in Chechnya. This is why I am curious as to how much, if at all, the Fencers were used.

To be more specific: what I don't understand is why Georgian airfieds, the Georgian Navy, Gerogian supply and fuel dumps, and Georgian radar stations and communication nodes were not destroyed by Fencer strikes in the first 24 hours of the war. These are targets which force packages of strike and SEAD Fencers escorted by Flankers should have been able to engage even before the Russian forces managed to get the first battalion through the Roki tunnel.

Part of the explanation could be that the Russians were taken by complete surprize by the Georgian attack. But once Tskhinval was clearly under attack and the Russian peacekeepers were dying, the image of what this was all about should have been clear. So is the failure of the Russian Air Force to successfully engage Georgian targets throughout the area of operations indicates to me that the servicability of the Fencers and the readiness of the Russian Air Force personnel (outside the high readiness North Caucasus MD) must have been very low.

And that makes me wonder how many Fencers could take off today and successfully accomplish their mission.

Any thought?

02/08/13 BOMBERS BASED "SHAGOL" WILL RECEIVE NEW EQUIPMENT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR


RIA Novosti . Central Military District (CVO) to the end of 2013 to equip all bombers airbase "Shagol" (Chelyabinsk region) new specialized computer system "Hephaestus", which will increase the accuracy of bombing three times, according to a Friday press office CVO.

"On Air" Shagol "completes conversion of the Su-24M new sighting and navigation system" http://www.militaryparitet.com/ttp/data/ic_ttp/5125/. "Specialized Computer System SVP-24" Hephaestus "will be installed on all bombers connection to the end of 2013," - said in a statement. As noted, by that time the representatives of the aviation industry to be equipped with an additional 8 bombers.

According to the CVO, a new sighting and navigation system combines the targeting system, navigation and control, it is resistant to weather and increases the survival of aircraft. Using the SVP-24 enhance the ability of the crew to use tactics during the search, leaving the target, aiming and hitting, say the military.

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TR1 wrote:http://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=11757774@egNews

All Su-24s in the Central Military Okrug have been upgraded by Gefest.
This confirms bmpd's info that many dozens were upgraded after performance in the 8-8-8 War. Good to see MOD finally came to its senses after years of Gefest&T languishing with several aiframes @ Lipetsk, though too bad it did not happen 10-5 years ago. Su-24 is very much on its way out as Su-34 deliveries add up.

mack8 wrote:So, any idea how many Su-24M2 and how many Su-24M "Gefest" have been re-delivered so far, and how many more are planned? Thanks.

TR1 wrote:http://russianplanes.net/id127976

Nice photo. Note the Su-24s in the background are all armed with A2G missiles.

Stealthflanker wrote:

TR1 wrote:http://russianplanes.net/id127976

Nice photo. Note the Su-24s in the background are all armed with A2G missiles.

Cool.. the Su-24MR.

hmm anyway is there any news on the jammer variant of Su-24.. The Su-24MR ? Will they receive new jammer or they will remain "as is" till new jamming bird take over their role ?

Rossiyskaya Gazeta wrote:On April 10, the Donald Cook, entered Black Sea waters and within 2 days, the Russian tactical bomber Su-24 “buzzed” the American destroyer. A few media outlets reported that Donald Cook’s crew was demoralised by this encounter and 27 American sailors resigned from the navy. What petrified the American crew so much?
Donald Cook is a 4th generation fleet destroyer of the US Navy. Its key weapon is the Tomahawk cruise missile with flying range up to 2500 km, which can carry nuclear explosives. In standard and striking set-ups the vessel carries 56 or 96 such missiles correspondingly.

The destroyer is equipped with the latest Aegis ballistic missile defence system military. Among other functions it can centralise the air defence forces of all the ships where it is installed in a common network, therefore allowing for tracking and shooting up hundreds of targets at the same time. Four huge standard radar aerials, which can substitute for a few ordinary radars, are located on the sides of the deck erection. About 50 intercept missiles of different classes are installed together with the Tomahawks in the universal launching installations on the bow and by the stern.

The Su-24 Russian tactical bomber which approached the Donald Cook carried no bombs or missiles but a container with the Khibiny radio-electronic military system. Having approached the destroyer, Khibiny was use to switch off the American destroyer’s radar, battle control circuits and data exchange systems. In other words, it turned off the whole Aegis by remote control. After this, the Su-24 simulated a missile attack at the “blind and deaf” ship, and repeated the manoeuvre 12 times.
When the Russian fighter left, the Donald Cook rushed to a Romanian port and never approached Russian waters again.

Several systems at Russia’s disposal

“To win a contemporary war, it is not enough to dominate in the air. It is necessary to secure an information advantage,” says Vladimir Balybin, Head of the research centre for radio-electronic battle and concealment efficiency. Apart from Khibiny, the Russian defence industry manufactures various types of equipment that could surprise active enemy units as well as criminals and terrorists.

Airborne forces are being re-equipped with Infauna complexes. These are installed on armoured vehicles or other military vehicles and can locate and jam enemy’s radio connection in short wave and ultra-short wave frequencies, and “put out” remotely-controlled land-bombs. They will explode but only after the Russian troops have passed by and are far enough to be safe.

Infauna has another function: the optic sensors installed on both sides of the vehicle spot flashes of discharges and command laying smokes-screen to protect convoys from fire.


The Lesochek device fulfils the same functions as Infauna but is portable and can fit into a backpack or a suitcase.  It can be useful at important talks for protection against most advanced security services interception systems.

The Borisoglebsk-2 is the core of the radio-electronic warfare of the tactical units of the Russian army. It comprises an automated command point and four types of jamming stations – they use a single algorithm to identify and jam the sources of hostile activity on the air.

The Zhitel device locates and blocks satellite and mobile phones, subscription complexes of GPS-navigation. It proved efficient during the conflict in South Ossetia by misleading Georgian drone aircraft.
Dmitry Rogozin, Russia’s deputy prime minister, has called for the reequipping of Russian strategic nuclear arms with the latest radio-electronic warfare devices.