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Russia - Azerbaijan defense contracts
mack8- Posts : 1039
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Regarding the Tor-M2E contract, any confirmation whether they have been delivered yet (and some pics would be very nice too!), and if not, any rough idea of the timescale? I was reading in several places that they were supposed to be shown at the last parade. Thanks.
AttilaA- Posts : 167
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2S31 Vena in production for Azerbaijan.
mack8- Posts : 1039
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Would this Mi-35M be azeri? (found at aviaforum.ru)
TR1- Posts : 5435
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Apparently not all of those Venas are for Azerbaijan. Some are from a small pilot batch for the Russian MOD, ordered way back by Ivanov.
Viktor- Posts : 5796
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LOL Azerbaijan is on buying spree (after BMP-3, BMD-4)
Azerbaijan is interested upgraded airborne combat vehicles produced in Russia
Azerbaijan is interested upgraded airborne combat vehicles produced in Russia. APA reports quoting sources in the military. In this regard, the Azerbaijani side is currently negotiating with the relevant structures of Russia. Today, representatives of Azerbaijan in Nizhny Tagil familiar with the fighting qualities of the new amphibious vehicle. During the demonstration, which took place in the field, fighting machines to perform various maneuvers and were shooting.
http://vpk.name/news/97582_azerbaidzhan_interesuetsya_modernizirovannyimi_boevyimi_mashinami_desanta_rossiiskogo_proizvodstva.html
Azerbaijan is interested upgraded airborne combat vehicles produced in Russia
Azerbaijan is interested upgraded airborne combat vehicles produced in Russia. APA reports quoting sources in the military. In this regard, the Azerbaijani side is currently negotiating with the relevant structures of Russia. Today, representatives of Azerbaijan in Nizhny Tagil familiar with the fighting qualities of the new amphibious vehicle. During the demonstration, which took place in the field, fighting machines to perform various maneuvers and were shooting.
http://vpk.name/news/97582_azerbaidzhan_interesuetsya_modernizirovannyimi_boevyimi_mashinami_desanta_rossiiskogo_proizvodstva.html
flamming_python- Posts : 9518
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What does Azerbaijan need BMD-4s for?
TR1- Posts : 5435
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Support for lighter mountain troops? Areas where heavier vehicles cannot go?
Kinda weird given their recent BMP-3 purchase.
Kinda weird given their recent BMP-3 purchase.
flamming_python- Posts : 9518
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Yep pretty much.TR1 wrote:Support for lighter mountain troops? Areas where heavier vehicles cannot go?
Kinda weird given their recent BMP-3 purchase.
Can't think of any place a BMD-4 can go that a BMP-3 can't. Except through the air by parachute.
Perhaps the Azeris know something we don't
AttilaA- Posts : 167
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Viktor- Posts : 5796
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WoW ... great pictures. Just great.
TR1- Posts : 5435
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Favorit, nice!
Viktor- Posts : 5796
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Only interesting thing is that Azerbaijan is using towed TELs as opposed to self-propelled TELs.
SOC- Posts : 565
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All S-300PMU-2 exports (China, Algeria, Azerbaijan) have involved the 5P85TE2 towed TEL, which is basically the same as the 5P85TM used in the S-400.Viktor wrote:Only interesting thing is that Azerbaijan is using towed TELs as opposed to self-propelled TELs.
GarryB- Posts : 40515
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You average heavy truck is a very expensive beast... if you are going to be using the systems to defend largely static targets like airfields or communications hubs or command centres that can't really move around that much then it makes sense to save a bit of money and use trailer based SAMs.
Ironically just as easy to make fake versions of too so still pretty safe, but just as effective as the more mobile versions.
Ironically just as easy to make fake versions of too so still pretty safe, but just as effective as the more mobile versions.
SOC- Posts : 565
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The 8x8 TELs are more mobile in that they've got a bit better off-road capability, but towed TELs still provide the system with its 5 minute set-up/tear-down time.GarryB wrote:the more mobile versions.
GarryB- Posts : 40515
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You could possibly save a little money by buying twice as many missile trailers as trucks and just use the trucks to move the trailers for reloading.
A (blow up) decoy for a trailer launcher should be smaller and lighter and easier to handle.
It would also mean that you can update your trucks or use other trucks to pull the trailers, so you are not tied to one truck type... any truck that is available could be used to move or position the trailers.
When not using them to move the trailers you could be using them to earn money hauling freight with different trailers.
A (blow up) decoy for a trailer launcher should be smaller and lighter and easier to handle.
It would also mean that you can update your trucks or use other trucks to pull the trailers, so you are not tied to one truck type... any truck that is available could be used to move or position the trailers.
When not using them to move the trailers you could be using them to earn money hauling freight with different trailers.
Viktor- Posts : 5796
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Interesting, did not notice that! Do you know why?SOC wrote:All S-300PMU-2 exports (China, Algeria, Azerbaijan) have involved the 5P85TE2 towed TEL, which is basically the same as the 5P85TM used in the S-400.Viktor wrote:Only interesting thing is that Azerbaijan is using towed TELs as opposed to self-propelled TELs.
SOC- Posts : 565
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Simple, it's what's in production, as it's the same TEL used by the S-400. In reality there's not very much difference from the 5P85TE apart from the newer tractor; both trailers use disc antennae for wireless linkup and have cable drums for wired linkup, both hold four missile tubes, both satisfy the 5 minute set-up/tear-down requirement, etc.Viktor wrote:Interesting, did not notice that! Do you know why?SOC wrote:All S-300PMU-2 exports (China, Algeria, Azerbaijan) have involved the 5P85TE2 towed TEL, which is basically the same as the 5P85TM used in the S-400.Viktor wrote:Only interesting thing is that Azerbaijan is using towed TELs as opposed to self-propelled TELs.
Plus, 8x8 TELs are still offered, but are a little bit more expensive. The only relatively recent buyer that got a brand new 8x8 TEL was Vietnam, who bought the S-300PMU-1 (lots of S-300PS buyers don't really count as they've been getting refurbished Russian stocks).
If you put these things in urban areas, like China is doing with it's S-300PMU-1/2s, the added off-road capability you get with an 8x8 TEL isn't all that necessary as you've got a lot of pre-existing civilian infrastructure you can exploit to move around.
Also, Russia is phasing out the MAZ-543 series, at least as far as SAM components are concerned, and it's possible that any one of these buyers placed the order at exactly the wrong time to get an 8x8 TEL. Well, except for China. They've ordered towed TELs for everything except the initial S-300PMUs, so they probably wouldn't have cared if an 8x8 TEL was or was not available.
Viktor- Posts : 5796
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Russia to start delivering Uran-E missile complexes ordered by Azerbaijan from next year
Azerbaijan (75 mil$) + Turkmenistan (79.8 mil$) + Kazahstan (30 mil$) + Turkmenistan 2nd order (40 mil$) = 224.8 million $ for Kh-35 (good job)
Azerbaijan made $75 mln-order to Russian Tactical Rocket Arms corporation in 2010. Realization of the order will start from the end of the current year. These naval missiles will be used in arming of naval forces of Azerbaijan.
Only Russian and Turkmen warships have been armed with these complexes. Along with Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan also made $79.8 mln and $30 mln orders to Russia for naval missiles in 2010. The first part of Turkmenistan’s order was delivered in 2011-2012. Ashgabad made additional $40 mln order. The range of these missiles makes 130-260 km.
AttilaA- Posts : 167
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Azerbaijan to receive the first batch of Vena.
http://ru.apa.az/news/258060
http://ru.apa.az/news/258060
GarryB- Posts : 40515
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Good to see such a vehicle entering service... NONA has shown over the years how potent a self propelled 120mm mortar is.
AttilaA- Posts : 167
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New batch of Mi-35M (20121, 20122, 20123, 20124).
https://i.imgur.com/yn53GIx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/EU8S44b.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xCQ83ll.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4zoCHl5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/yn53GIx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/EU8S44b.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xCQ83ll.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4zoCHl5.jpg
AttilaA- Posts : 167
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Unit price of Mi-35Ms delivered to Azerbaijan.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/791516.html
2011: $19.8 million (4 helicopters)
2012: $19.3 million (8 helicopters)
2013: $20 million (12 helicopters)
24 Mi-35M for $473 million.
Also, Kazan helicopter plant's exports to Azerbaijan in 2012-2013 period was about $300 million.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/791516.html
2011: $19.8 million (4 helicopters)
2012: $19.3 million (8 helicopters)
2013: $20 million (12 helicopters)
24 Mi-35M for $473 million.
Also, Kazan helicopter plant's exports to Azerbaijan in 2012-2013 period was about $300 million.
AttilaA- Posts : 167
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AttilaA wrote:Also, Kazan helicopter plant's exports to Azerbaijan in 2012-2013 period was about $300 million.
Azerbaijan's order for 2014: 6.8 billion rubles (190 million dollars).
http://vestnikkavkaza.net/news/economy/54497.html
Viktor- Posts : 5796
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Nice
AZERBAIJAN HAS ORDERED 15 RUSSIAN HELICOPTERS
AZERBAIJAN HAS ORDERED 15 RUSSIAN HELICOPTERS