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MiG-29K: News and info
medo- Posts : 4343
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- Post n°101
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Any picture, that Chinese carrier have its air wing on board? For now we see only prototypes and testings.
Flyingdutchman- Posts : 535
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- Post n°102
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Yes only prototypes so far.
medo- Posts : 4343
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Flyingdutchman- Posts : 535
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- Post n°104
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medo wrote:
What load-out?
medo- Posts : 4343
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- Post n°105
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Looks like Kh-35 and R-73 missiles.
Flyingdutchman- Posts : 535
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- Post n°106
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medo wrote:Looks like Kh-35 and R-73 missiles.
Yes, indeed!
medo- Posts : 4343
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- Post n°107
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Finally. MiG-29K is in new RuNAVY colors.
medo- Posts : 4343
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- Post n°108
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medo- Posts : 4343
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- Post n°109
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medo- Posts : 4343
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- Post n°110
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Another MiG-29KUB.
Flyingdutchman- Posts : 535
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- Post n°111
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ugly camo
I like the camo of the one you posted on Sun Oct 26 very much!
I like the camo of the one you posted on Sun Oct 26 very much!
Viktor- Posts : 5796
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- Post n°112
Re: MiG-29K: News and info
Some delivery just took place
Russian Defense Ministry received a shipment naval MiG-29K / KUB
Russian Defense Ministry received a shipment naval MiG-29K / KUB
medo- Posts : 4343
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- Post n°113
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Viktor wrote:Some delivery just took place
Russian Defense Ministry received a shipment naval MiG-29K / KUB
So now they could form the first carrier Mig-29K squadron. I think we will need to wait for some time to see them on the carrier.
George1- Posts : 18520
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- Post n°114
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Viktor wrote:Some delivery just took place
Russian Defense Ministry received a shipment naval MiG-29K / KUB
do we know how many?
medo- Posts : 4343
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- Post n°115
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George1 wrote:Viktor wrote:Some delivery just took place
Russian Defense Ministry received a shipment naval MiG-29K / KUB
do we know how many?
As I know, RuNAVY receive 4 in 2013, 10 in 2014 and 10 in 2015. They will most probably train pilots on MiGs next year in Eysk NITKA center and in 2016 place them on carrier. Anyway, Su-33 will be soon ground based fighter.
GarryB- Posts : 40541
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- Post n°116
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The question is... when the Su-33s are grounded, will they put MiGs on board or will they take this opportunity to put the K into dry dock for that big upgrade it was supposed to be getting.
I suspect it all depends on the status of all the new things they want to fit... and the changes they want to make.
testing the new nuclear propulsion plants for new heavy ships and carriers would be useful, but if they are not ready then it might spend some more time at sea...
they will likely wait for the naval Koalition gun system to be ready or perhaps a 203mm calibre version of it.... and of course having S-500 ready to go would also make things faster...
I suspect it all depends on the status of all the new things they want to fit... and the changes they want to make.
testing the new nuclear propulsion plants for new heavy ships and carriers would be useful, but if they are not ready then it might spend some more time at sea...
they will likely wait for the naval Koalition gun system to be ready or perhaps a 203mm calibre version of it.... and of course having S-500 ready to go would also make things faster...
George1- Posts : 18520
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- Post n°117
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this video shows at 8.45 MiG-29K in Kuznetsov AC. Can anyone confirm this?
George1- Posts : 18520
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- Post n°118
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Navy this year will receive 10 carrier-based fighters MiG-29K/KUB
http://flot.com/2015/188221/
http://flot.com/2015/188221/
flamming_python- Posts : 9547
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- Post n°119
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That carrier-air wing (279th KIAP) was based at an airbase about 3km from where I served in 2010-2011.
They used to fly around with their Su-33s every second day around the vicinity of our own base.
One day, one of them overflew me at an altitude of about 30m, when I was out back behind the HQ building cleaning some snow. Don't know why they bothered with me, but it was pretty cool seeing a Su-33 so bloody close up - and not in the form of a static one on the tarmac either.
Of course if this was war and that Su-33 was my enemy; I would be dead - it was going fast and low enough to not make any noise in advance of its approach and I literarly only noticed it when it was directly above my head, quite unexpected you can imagine.
Anyway, why am I telling you this.
Oh yeah.
They were training with Su-33s all throughout the winter of 2010/2011, but then in the summer of 2011 I noticed a curious sight - a MiG-29 flying around, in what seemed to be the colours of one of the Russian aerobatics teams no less.
So it's fair to assume that this particular air regiment has been training with the MiG-29 for at least 4.5 years by now. If they're switiching to them now then they're well prepared and the change will take place quickly. Or perhaps they switched to them earlier already.
They used to fly around with their Su-33s every second day around the vicinity of our own base.
One day, one of them overflew me at an altitude of about 30m, when I was out back behind the HQ building cleaning some snow. Don't know why they bothered with me, but it was pretty cool seeing a Su-33 so bloody close up - and not in the form of a static one on the tarmac either.
Of course if this was war and that Su-33 was my enemy; I would be dead - it was going fast and low enough to not make any noise in advance of its approach and I literarly only noticed it when it was directly above my head, quite unexpected you can imagine.
Anyway, why am I telling you this.
Oh yeah.
They were training with Su-33s all throughout the winter of 2010/2011, but then in the summer of 2011 I noticed a curious sight - a MiG-29 flying around, in what seemed to be the colours of one of the Russian aerobatics teams no less.
So it's fair to assume that this particular air regiment has been training with the MiG-29 for at least 4.5 years by now. If they're switiching to them now then they're well prepared and the change will take place quickly. Or perhaps they switched to them earlier already.
chicken- Posts : 110
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- Post n°120
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If a Mig-35 can carry Kalibr can a Mig-29K also carry it?
flamming_python- Posts : 9547
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- Post n°121
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chicken wrote:
If a Mig-35 can carry Kalibr can a Mig-29K also carry it?
I haven't seen any evidence that any MiG-29/MiG-35 can carry a supersonic Kalibr variant.
But yes a MiG-29K can for sure carry a subsonic one.
GarryB- Posts : 40541
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- Post n°122
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I haven't seen any evidence that any MiG-29/MiG-35 can carry a supersonic Kalibr variant.
But yes a MiG-29K can for sure carry a subsonic one.
AFAIK they are a very similar weight... the supersonic version having a 200kg warhead and the subsonic version twice that (400kgs).
Add to that the mini Brahmos-M mentioned on this forum with a mach 3 speed and a 500km range I rather suspect it will be a very potent aircraft...
flamming_python- Posts : 9547
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- Post n°123
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GarryB wrote:I haven't seen any evidence that any MiG-29/MiG-35 can carry a supersonic Kalibr variant.
But yes a MiG-29K can for sure carry a subsonic one.
AFAIK they are a very similar weight... the supersonic version having a 200kg warhead and the subsonic version twice that (400kgs).
Add to that the mini Brahmos-M mentioned on this forum with a mach 3 speed and a 500km range I rather suspect it will be a very potent aircraft...
The thing is that the Supersonic version is a couple metres longer or so.
I was looking over MiG-29K/MiG-35 weapon capability the other day and I found only references to subsonic Kalibr model designations; hence my suspicions.
medo- Posts : 4343
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- Post n°124
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MiG-29K/KUB could not carry Yakhont/Onyx missile, because it is too heavy with weight of 3 t. I think even Klub with 1.5 t is too heavy for MiG-29K to carry it under its wings pylons. Su-33 on the other hand could carry Klub missiles under body pylons, they are not too heavy.
Regarding R-37M long range AAM, MiG-29K could not use it, because it have to small and too weak radar. I'm not sure if Su-30SM could use it, as Su-30SM doesn't have L-band components in its radar, although Bars-R radar have enough range and power. I think this missile will be in use only with miG-31BM, Su-35 and PAK-FA,because they have L-band radars.
Regarding R-37M long range AAM, MiG-29K could not use it, because it have to small and too weak radar. I'm not sure if Su-30SM could use it, as Su-30SM doesn't have L-band components in its radar, although Bars-R radar have enough range and power. I think this missile will be in use only with miG-31BM, Su-35 and PAK-FA,because they have L-band radars.
GarryB- Posts : 40541
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- Post n°125
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I was looking over MiG-29K/MiG-35 weapon capability the other day and I found only references to subsonic Kalibr model designations; hence my suspicions.
I don't know of any air launched anti ship model of Klub... the airborne launched models AFAIK are land attack Kalibr only.
the MiG-35 has a unified design with the MiG-29K and can carry 2.5 ton payloads on its two inner wing pylons...
I was looking over MiG-29K/MiG-35 weapon capability the other day and I found only references to subsonic Kalibr model designations; hence my suspicions.
That is perhaps why they are bothering to make the smaller lighter Brahmos-M?
Regarding R-37M long range AAM, MiG-29K could not use it, because it have to small and too weak radar. I'm not sure if Su-30SM could use it, as Su-30SM doesn't have L-band components in its radar, although Bars-R radar have enough range and power. I think this missile will be in use only with miG-31BM, Su-35 and PAK-FA,because they have L-band radars.
Actually most modern fighters could use it as its primary use is against large aircraft like JSTARS, AWACS, Transport aircraft, tanker aircraft etc etc.
With its AESA radar the MiG-35 should have no problem using it to max range, but aircraft like the MiG-29K could also use it to slightly shorter distances with higher energies...