Νew Technologies and Innovation Development in Russia

Kyo wrote:A new combat robot Avatar revealed

Haha, wait until someone posts that on mp.net. Some of the folks there will pop some blood vessels

George1 wrote:Dual-screen YotaPad under development*

* = made in China

flamming_python wrote:

George1 wrote:Dual-screen YotaPad under development*

* = made in China

Made in Singapore to be exact.

They said that if sales are good eventually it will be made in Russia entirely.

sepheronx wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

George1 wrote:Dual-screen YotaPad under development*

* = made in China

Made in Singapore to be exact.

They said that if sales are good eventually it will be made in Russia entirely.

Now that's good to hear, another question for you sepheronx, if Elbrus were able to develop a mobile processor for these phones, would the Android OS accept it, if not can it be made to accept it??

sepheronx wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

George1 wrote:Dual-screen YotaPad under development*

* = made in China

Made in Singapore to be exact.

They said that if sales are good eventually it will be made in Russia entirely.

Made in China by a Singapore firm, to be exactly exact

YotaPhone is a great achievement of the PRC's electronics industry. It's Mao Zedongian, not Russian.

The funniest shit was when Putin presented Jinping the YotaPhone 2 at their last meeting.
I'm sure Chairman Jinping doesn't need Putin's help to get some consumer electronics goods from his own country
Should have been the other way 'round in fact.

flamming_python wrote:

sepheronx wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

George1 wrote:Dual-screen YotaPad under development*

* = made in China

Made in Singapore to be exact.

They said that if sales are good eventually it will be made in Russia entirely.

Made in China by a Singapore firm, to be exactly exact

YotaPhone is a great achievement of the PRC's electronics industry. It's Mao Zedongian, not Russian.

Well the, the Apple iPhone is another Chinese achievement.

You discount the engineering and design of the product a tad too much.

flamming_python wrote:The funniest shit was when Putin presented Jinping the YotaPhone 2 at their last meeting.
I'm sure Chairman Jinping doesn't need Putin's help to get some consumer electronics goods from his own country
Should have been the other way 'round in fact.

I would agree to an extent. Phone is designed in Russia, but made elsewhere, much like all other phones. And truly, I would love to see a Russian made phone. A phone using Elbrus 2C+ processor (DSP cores for the comm control) with decent hardware and a linux operating system like Ubuntu Mobile. That would be awesome and I bet would sell quite well. But, due to the processor still being quite new and only recently is being pushed for domestic market, it wont happen for quite some time. With T-platforms and its subsidiary, Baikal electronics push for Russian development of ARM, it could be a reality soon for Russian components in the phone.

Russia is serious about fighting cyberwarfare:

Rostec protect against cyber threats

AlfaT8 wrote:
Now that's good to hear, another question for you sepheronx, if Elbrus were able to develop a mobile processor for these phones, would the Android OS accept it, if not can it be made to accept it??

Elbrus is a completely different arquitecture of western processors.. the problem with designing a phone
with Elbrus is compatibility with android OS will be ZERO.. and none of of the applications ,software and games ,many thousands that exist will work in smartphones with elbrus processor.  So is not practical to have elbrus there ,it can actually be a disadvantage for selling the smartphone if is not compatible with western software.

In the case of Security ,server station and Business and military industry is a different story..
ELbrus however could run Android if a programmer design an emulator but will be slower..

What i would like to see is a full scale investment in Semiconductor industry.. that Russia fully seek to create an
Intel and AMD killer.. not just a competitive market.. They cannot rely of the western technology..  and it will be nice if they create an entire Computer Industry with software.. not only for business ( as it is CAD applications or Microsoft software for business but also for entertainment like video games) . IF Russia design a very fast processor , lets say something like a 30ghz cpu , an emulator could be made to make windows/Intel software and aplications to run in Russian computers. that will be truly awesome..  It could also be used for Consoles if its very fast.. for the next playstation 5  Imagine the huge sales of something like that.. sony sale more than 100 millions of their consoles in 10 years.

Russia needs to design their own computers because at any time the west  can ban the sales of any computers to Russia. and also close the market for Russia for  technology from any NATO country. and that will be very shameful if they not prepared for replace western hardware.  the same goes about Internet.. Russia needs a complete semiconductor and software revolution.

US gov ,the more they feel insecure about losing its world leadership ,the more hostile they will be..with Russia..
and Russia needs to right now be prepared for a full scale technology isolation from the west .US gov will also increase its spying and sabotaging others internet infrastructure.. So more than ever Russia needs to become very serious and develop a full computer industry in RUssia with their own internet and programs

Vann7 wrote:

AlfaT8 wrote:
Now that's good to hear, another question for you sepheronx, if Elbrus were able to develop a mobile processor for these phones, would the Android OS accept it, if not can it be made to accept it??

Elbrus is a completely different arquitecture of western processors.. the problem with designing a phone
with Elbrus is compatibility with android OS will be ZERO.. and none of of the applications ,software and games ,many thousands that exist will work in smartphones with elbrus processor.  So is not practical to have elbrus there ,it can actually be a disadvantage for selling the smartphone if is not compatible with western software.

As soon as someone develops a JVM (Java Virtual Machine) for the Elbrus processor; the problem will be solved, and every single application, software and game will be compatible.

Android is not C, programs are not compiled differently for each architecture, with different dlls/libraries in different systems and so on. Android is far, far more universal. Android is basically Java - every single program is instead compiled to byte code instructions for the JVM and these byte code instructions are independent of processor and OS type; for every system they will look the same. It's then the JVMs job to translate these byte code instructions into instructions for specific processors (there is a unique JVM for each combination of processor architecture and OS, they all interpret the byte-code the same but translate byte-code into processor instructions differently).

So you see, the JVM serves as a layer of abstraction between the program/compiler and the processor.

There are JVMs for web-browsers too, and for some integrated devices such as printers or other peripherals even.. old mobile phones too from before the smartphone era; in total some +3 billion devices on Earth (old statistic, probably more by now) have a JVM installed on them.
If it has been judged economical to develop a JVM for some low-circulation integrated processors/circuits like those you'll find in a computer peripheral or Nokia phone from the mid 2000s, surely one will be developed for the Elbrus too. If someone hasn't developed one already that is - maybe they have.

WoW

Putin has shown how to operate a robot by thought

higurashihougi wrote:Oh mine...

http://englishrussia.com/2015/01/20/meet-russian-android-robot-avatar/

http://sputniknews.com/military/20150120/1017150006.html

Both Putin and Rogozin are smiling in amusement when they look at this toy.

But you have to start somewhere.

Werewolf wrote:

Russian Patriot wrote:http://en.itar-tass.com/economy/736804 new computer chips to replace American Intel and AMD

Well Intel is orginally based on soviet military technology, but now the money would go to russian companies, good decision.

Interesting, some links for it ?

marcinko wrote:

Werewolf wrote:

Russian Patriot wrote:http://en.itar-tass.com/economy/736804 new computer chips to replace American Intel and AMD

Well Intel is orginally based on soviet military technology, but now the money would go to russian companies, good decision.

Interesting, some links for it ?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/06/07/intel_uses_russia_military_technologies/

Werewolf wrote:

marcinko wrote:

Werewolf wrote:

Russian Patriot wrote:http://en.itar-tass.com/economy/736804 new computer chips to replace American Intel and AMD

Well Intel is orginally based on soviet military technology, but now the money would go to russian companies, good decision.

Interesting, some links for it ?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/06/07/intel_uses_russia_military_technologies/

Good link man, I didn`t know about that

But i`am hardly surprised since Russia produces world leading scientists in all technical domains

http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/58501/

Some nice laser welding equipment developed in Russia.

What's the status of carbon nanotube production? If they haven't built even a single strand then they're in severe technological industrial backwardness. That's because Carbon nanotubes will be the king of materials in the future, being completely unmatched in strength and flexibility to anything you can dig from russia's soil. It will be used in every6thing from construction material to armor.

In conclusion, russia should stop concentrating on 20th century stuff like mining, since all lab grown materials will beat it.

Metamaterials like graphene should also be top priority. Western corporations also have a lead in them and they will be extremely vital in building future computer hardware.

KomissarBojanchev wrote:What's the status of carbon nanotube production? If they haven't built even a single strand then they're in severe technological industrial backwardness. That's because Carbon nanotubes will be the king of materials  in the future, being completely unmatched in strength and flexibility to anything you can dig from russia's soil. It will be used in every6thing from construction material to armor.

In conclusion, russia should stop concentrating on 20th century stuff like mining, since all lab grown materials will beat it.

Metamaterials like graphene should also be top priority. Western corporations also have a lead in them and they will be extremely vital in building future computer hardware.

Russia does have Carbon nanotube production, forgot who's doing it though. Might be several companies.

Skolkovo Olympic Technopark to breed future sports stars

The park will accommodate what the planners call a sports projects incubator, research laboratories, training facilities and an innovation exhibition center

MOSCOW, February 20. /TASS/. Russia’s Olympic Committee and the financial fund of Skolkovo Innovation Center are on the trail of human talent for the nation's future sporting teams — and technological advance to drive those with promise to success on the world stage.

The search is under way from a new "Olympic Technopark" based on the Skolkovo science complex outside Moscow. The facility was signed into existence on Friday by Olympic committee President Alexander Zhukov and Skolkovo Foundation President Victor Vekselberg.

Its mission is to promote sports-based scientific research, development and trial. The aim is to develop new-generation materials, equipment and clothing, advanced methods of improving athletic performance, post-injury recovery and rehabilitation, and to spot podium stars of tomorrow.

The park will accommodate what the planners call a "sports projects incubator", research laboratories, training facilities and an innovation exhibition center.

Skolkovo is based at Odintsovo in the Moscow region, a 400-hectare business complex being created to encourage development and commercial growth for science and technology companies.

The aim of this city of more than 30,000 residents and employees is to launch and market start-ups, supporting corporations and individuals with financial incentives to take forward their projects and ideas.

Since its inception in 2010, Skolkovo has created a start-up pipeline of more than 850 companies alongside the presence of Russian nanotechnology corporation Rusnano, the Russian Venture Corporation and the Russian Direct Investment Fund.

Global corporates such as Samsung, Intel, Microsoft, Honeywell, Siemens, J&J, SAP and BP are all locating research and development centers there, or supporting new initiatives.

The centre for the development of new technologies for 3D printing will appear in Tomsk

The center will focus on creating new materials with unique properties, primarily to work in extreme conditions, said the Director of the Institute of physics of high technology, Tomsk Polytechnic University Alex Yakovlev. He stressed that today 3D printing is widely used in the world.

TOMSK, 3 Mar RIA Novosti. The first of the Urals regional scientific-educational center, in which leading scientists of Siberia will create a unique equipment for 3D printing opens in Tomsk in 2015, reported RIA Novosti Director of the Institute of physics of high technology, Tomsk Polytechnic University (TPU) Aleksey Yakovlev.

"The center will focus on creating new materials with unique properties, primarily for operation in extreme conditions. For example, in the Far North, with its low temperatures, in the depths of the oceans, where high pressure and corrosive effects of sea water or in space," said Yakovlev.

He stressed that today 3D printing is widely used in the world, and in terms of import substitution development of additive technologies (layer-by-layer cultivation of products made of different materials) in the Russian Federation will make available to the domestic industry of 3D printing of complex parts for enhanced durability.

"In the future, these technologies may allow the following: a 3D printer is lifted into orbit and in zero gravity will print tool or design elements of the space station. For example, it will be possible to manufacture the body of the spacecraft, the solar battery or the antenna to communicate with Earth. The orbit will need to raise only consumables for this printer, which our scientists will develop", - said the Agency interlocutor.

Yakovlev said that the basis of the staff of the regional scientific-educational center in the field of additive technologies will be leading scientists and specialists of the TPU and the Institute of strength physics and materials science (IFPM), SB RAS.

KomissarBojanchev wrote:What's the status of carbon nanotube production? If they haven't built even a single strand then they're in severe technological industrial backwardness. That's because Carbon nanotubes will be the king of materials  in the future, being completely unmatched in strength and flexibility to anything you can dig from russia's soil. It will be used in every6thing from construction material to armor.

In conclusion, russia should stop concentrating on 20th century stuff like mining, since all lab grown materials will beat it.

Metamaterials like graphene should also be top priority. Western corporations also have a lead in them and they will be extremely vital in building future computer hardware.

x9001. maybe they could have it decreed that part of mining companies taxes would go straight to materials tech r&d. and start by attracting back all those expats- most are rich and set for a comfortable life anyway, what they would be looking for is making their mark in their fields/ recognition, something a relatively underdeveloped russia could provide.

KomissarBojanchev wrote:What's the status of carbon nanotube production? If they haven't built even a single strand then they're in severe technological industrial backwardness. That's because Carbon nanotubes will be the king of materials  in the future, being completely unmatched in strength and flexibility to anything you can dig from russia's soil. It will be used in every6thing from construction material to armor.

In conclusion, russia should stop concentrating on 20th century stuff like mining, since all lab grown materials will beat it.

Metamaterials like graphene should also be top priority. Western corporations also have a lead in them and they will be extremely vital in building future computer hardware.

That stuff is horrendously over expensive and is still barely used because of that. Hence why so many enterprises still invest a lot in metals like Titanium. Russia has been working on carbon material for ages and carbon nanotubes (lol) are probably one of vatious projects. Rusnano are the ones involved in their development.