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    Νew Technologies and Innovation Development in Russia

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    Post  franco Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:55 pm

    kvs wrote:Then these hypocrites accuse Russia of being "a gas station posing as a country".   As soon as Russia stopped bending over and
    being their colony they started accusing it of not diversifying enough and attracting foreign investment.   This is doublespeak for
    returning to the plantation.  

    Ukraine is learning this the hard way.   But its populace is too deluded to realize the situation.

    I can't find information about a Daniel List so I think the name is wrong:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_List

    There were no Daniels in Germany and Austria back then.


    Was a translation from AgitPRO so maybe something got lost. Possibly Friedrich.
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    Post  franco Sat Dec 26, 2020 12:05 pm

    New military technology arriving 2021...

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/510741-russia-weapon-expect-2021/

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    Post  franco Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:59 pm

    Russia ranks third in the world by number of CCTV cameras

    There are 93 cameras per 1,000 people in Russia, according to a study © Nikolai Moshkov/TASS, archive

    MOSCOW, December 25. /TASS/. Russia is ranked third in the world after China and the United States by the number of video surveillance cameras installed. According to the study by the TelecomDaily information analytical agency, there are 93 cameras per 1,000 people in Russia. Currently, there are about 13.5 million cameras in Russia, while there are 200 million and 50 million cameras in China and the United States respectively. In terms of the number of cameras per 1,000 people, the US ranks first (152.8 cameras), followed by China (143.6) and Russia (93.2), the study notes.

    In general, the cloud video surveillance market in the world remains one of the fastest growing IT segments. In 2019, its volume was $1.55 billion and by the end of 2020 it is expected to amount to $1.83 billion. By 2024, this market will reach $2.75 billion and will almost double in five years.
    Video surveillance market in Russia

    At the end of 2019, in Russia, the market volume exceeded 2.76 bln rubles ($37.2 mln), having increased by one third compared to 2018. According to preliminary forecasts, the market will earn 3.53 billion rubles ($47.6 mln) by the end of 2020 and by 2024, revenues in this sector will soar 2.3 times, to 6.36 billion rubles ($85.7 mln), TelecomDaily notes.

    According to forecasts for 2020, slightly less than 90% of revenue in this segment was generated by B2B companies. Individuals contributed about 9%, public sector (B2G) accounted for 1.4% and B2B2C clients - for 1.1%. Russia’s digital services provider Rostelecom is the leader in the retail market (86%). It is followed by the Invideon company (5%), telecom operator MTS and MGTS(2%) and Novotelecom (1.5%). The rest of the companies control 5.3% of the total.
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    Post  kvs Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:42 pm

    Misleading information. Just try to find CCTV cameras hanging off every building like in the UK.

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    Post  Kiko Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:50 pm

    Russia looks to become leader in hydrogen tech
    1 Jan, 2021

    Russia's vast natural gas reserves and renewables potential could make it one of the world's largest hydrogen producers within the next decades.
    Russia’s mineral and energy wealth has given it a second chance in global affairs after the Cold War and the implosion of the Soviet Union. Oil and gas exports have provided the necessary income to rebuild the country and exert influence abroad. The energy transition is the ‘Sword of Damocles’ hanging over the Russian fossil fuel industry. Moscow, therefore, is trying to find a new purpose for its energy industry by early investments in hydrogen technologies.

    Russia’s energy ministry is working on a hydrogen strategy in cooperation with foreign partners in Japan and Germany. The tools for this transformation are the country’s energy titans Rosatom, Novatek, and Gazprom. Each of these companies, with the support of Moscow, is looking into different technologies to produce and export the hydrogen.

    According to deputy prime minister Alexander Novak, “experts say that hydrogen may constitute 7 to 25 percent of the global energy balance by 2050, as soon as the issues of high production costs and the challenges related to transportation are resolved.”

    To develop a hydrogen sector, Russia intends to use the assets it already possesses such as the world's largest natural gas reserves, strong nuclear know-how, and high-class energy research facilities. The country’s energy mix is a reflection of the current state of affairs.

    Russia has one of the world’s largest nuclear plant fleets which is built and operated by state-owned Rosatom. A significant order portfolio for new plants both domestically and abroad is an incentive to develop and improve existing technologies. Therefore, nuclear energy is seen as an asset which through the process of electrolysis could be used to produce ‘yellow’ hydrogen.

    Russian and Japanese officials and representatives of their respective industries are already in talks for cooperation opportunities. In this regard, Rosatom and Japan’s Kawasaki Heavy Industries intend to export the first shipment by 2024. The Japanese intend to expand their knowledge of the industry and build on the experience of importing hydrogen from their enterprise in Australia that will start operations in 2021.

    Furthermore, Novatek, Russia’s largest independent gas producer, is already looking for new opportunities to supplement its LNG activities. According to CEO Leonid Mikhelson, the company is planning to build steam-methane reforming facilities on the Yamal peninsula to produce hydrogen. Additional carbon capture and storage projects will be required to produce so-called ‘blue’ hydrogen and meet the necessary standards. Mikhelson expects hydrogen to represent “a noticeable share in global energy consumption between 30 and 40 years from today.”

    Russia's vast natural gas reserves and renewables potential could make it one of the world's largest hydrogen producers within the next decades.
    Russia’s mineral and energy wealth has given it a second chance in global affairs after the Cold War and the implosion of the Soviet Union. Oil and gas exports have provided the necessary income to rebuild the country and exert influence abroad. The energy transition is the ‘Sword of Damocles’ hanging over the Russian fossil fuel industry. Moscow, therefore, is trying to find a new purpose for its energy industry by early investments in hydrogen technologies.

    Russia’s energy ministry is working on a hydrogen strategy in cooperation with foreign partners in Japan and Germany. The tools for this transformation are the country’s energy titans Rosatom, Novatek, and Gazprom. Each of these companies, with the support of Moscow, is looking into different technologies to produce and export the hydrogen.

    According to deputy prime minister Alexander Novak, “experts say that hydrogen may constitute 7 to 25 percent of the global energy balance by 2050, as soon as the issues of high production costs and the challenges related to transportation are resolved.”

    To develop a hydrogen sector, Russia intends to use the assets it already possesses such as the world's largest natural gas reserves, strong nuclear know-how, and high-class energy research facilities. The country’s energy mix is a reflection of the current state of affairs.

    Russia has one of the world’s largest nuclear plant fleets which is built and operated by state-owned Rosatom. A significant order portfolio for new plants both domestically and abroad is an incentive to develop and improve existing technologies. Therefore, nuclear energy is seen as an asset which through the process of electrolysis could be used to produce ‘yellow’ hydrogen.

    Russian and Japanese officials and representatives of their respective industries are already in talks for cooperation opportunities. In this regard, Rosatom and Japan’s Kawasaki Heavy Industries intend to export the first shipment by 2024. The Japanese intend to expand their knowledge of the industry and build on the experience of importing hydrogen from their enterprise in Australia that will start operations in 2021.

    Furthermore, Novatek, Russia’s largest independent gas producer, is already looking for new opportunities to supplement its LNG activities. According to CEO Leonid Mikhelson, the company is planning to build steam-methane reforming facilities on the Yamal peninsula to produce hydrogen. Additional carbon capture and storage projects will be required to produce so-called ‘blue’ hydrogen and meet the necessary standards. Mikhelson expects hydrogen to represent “a noticeable share in global energy consumption between 30 and 40 years from today.”

    Russia’s unchallenged gas champion Gazprom, however, is pursuing a different path. The company already operates extensive pipeline infrastructure to Europe and is expanding capacity to China. Due to the lifetime of the pipelines, hydrogen could be used to extend operations well after natural gas has been phased out. Before pure hydrogen can be pumped, admixing is a good alternative to reduce the carbon footprint and meet the requirements of customers.

    The technology Gazprom is looking into, however, is a process called methane pyrolysis. For this technique, natural gas is still used as the starting point of the process but the byproduct is different from methane reforming. By using heat, natural gas molecules are broken down into hydrogen and carbon which is not gaseous but solid. The carbon then can be used for other industrial processes and increase the value of the process.

    Lastly, while renewables are not a big part of Russia's energy mix and the government hasn't announced ambitious plans, there is a bright future for wind in the country. Especially the coastal regions in the northwest are highly suitable for ‘green’ hydrogen production through electrolysis. The existing natural gas pipelines could be reused to pump hydrogen to consumers.

    Despite the potential and intentions to become a hydrogen exporter, there is a very long way to go. Russia is one of the country’s most seriously affected by the energy transition due to its sizeable fossil fuel exports. Moscow realizes, therefore, that the current modus operandi is not sustainable. The current hydrogen plans are imperative to diversify the economy and develop new industries.

    https://www.rt.com/business/511320-russia-leadership-hydrogen-tech/


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    Post  kvs Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:17 pm

    There is no sense in making H2 from CH4 in the long term. It is only as a transition regime to bootstrap a hydrogen fuel economy
    where the hydrogen is manufactured without carbon release by solar panel farms, wind mills and yes big bad nuclear. The much
    touted alternative energy sources are extremely variable and fail as base load (of course nuclear power is not on this list). Taking
    the electricity from alt power generation and storing it in chemical form as H2 makes much more sense than trying to use the electricity
    as base load power.

    Wind mill poster boys like Denmark pull the following trick which almost never gets talked about by alt energy boosters. It exports
    its variable wind power to the EU grid and then imports back stable power.

    The problem with using H2 as a fuel is that storing it and handling it is a bitch. It diffuses into metal and makes it brittle. It needs
    to be compressed since it is a gas. Using NH3 instead of H2 makes much more sense since ammonia is just a volatile fluid at
    room temperature so one can fill a tank like with gasoline. The only issue that NH3 has is that it produces NOx if burned directly.
    NOx is both a pollutant and greenhouse gas family. So NH3 has to be burned in fuel cells that produce inert N2 instead of NOx.




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    Post  LMFS Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:55 pm

    I partially agree, renewables like wind and sun have a big advantage (essentially zero marginal costs of generation) and a big disadvantage, their variability. It would be premature though to dismiss them because of that, in fact as we speak new investments are already including directly coupled battery capacity to shift generation to the more profitable hours of the day, to provide reserve generation capacity and other functions. This is already becoming economically profitable. Another important tool is the improved transmission lines that can shift power from West to East with losses that are not so extreme as one may think, in fact generating H2 and compressing it is way worse. So there are already a set of solutions for those issues and they are being worked out. As it happens so often, optimizing what already exists is worth more than many revolutionary approaches.
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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:59 pm

    kvs wrote:There is no sense in making H2 from CH4 in the long term.   It is only as a transition regime to bootstrap a hydrogen fuel economy
    where the hydrogen is manufactured without carbon release by solar panel farms, wind mills and yes big bad nuclear.    The much
    touted alternative energy sources are extremely variable and fail as base load (of course nuclear power is not on this list).   Taking
    the electricity from alt power generation and storing it in chemical form as H2 makes much more sense than trying to use the electricity
    as base load power.

    Wind mill poster boys like Denmark pull the following trick which almost never gets talked about by alt energy boosters.   It exports
    its variable wind power to the EU grid and then imports back stable power.    

    The problem with using H2 as a fuel is that storing it and handling it is a bitch.   It diffuses into metal and makes it brittle.   It needs
    to be compressed since it is a gas.   Using NH3 instead of H2 makes much more sense since ammonia is just a volatile fluid at
    room temperature so one can fill a tank like with gasoline.   The only issue that NH3 has is that it produces NOx if burned directly.
    NOx is both a pollutant and greenhouse gas family.   So NH3 has to be burned in fuel cells that produce inert N2 instead of NOx.





    Russia will most likely use it as a method to sell. Nothing more. Russia is poised for expansion of nuclear power even more so and natural gas while eventually converting coal plants to natural gas.
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    Post  kvs Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:26 pm

    https://ourworldindata.org/energy-mix

    I never claimed that alternatives are useless. My post was clearly aimed at the whole H2 from CH4 issue. Natural gas extraction
    is not any sort of alternative energy. It is a direct global warming contributor.

    My whole point was that H2 is a stupid fuel compared to NH3 when dealing with the intermittency of solar and wind. The above
    link shows you just how small the alternatives are as a fraction of global energy sources. They have been in this boutique category
    for decades. Expecting them to quickly replace coal, oil and gas is simply delusional BS. But global warming is not waiting for
    humanity to grow a brain.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:58 am

    If they can extract Hydrogen from CH4, that would be a useful way of extracting evil carbon from methane in a way that gives you solid carbon in a commercially useful form rather than putting it into the air to create damage in the form of CO2 for instance.

    It suggests a way of extracting the useful hydrogen and useful solid carbon from otherwise hazardous methane... just burning it would release carbon into the air in a bad way...
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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:47 pm

    GarryB wrote:If they can extract Hydrogen from CH4, that would be a useful way of extracting evil carbon from methane in a way that gives you solid carbon in a commercially useful form rather than putting it into the air to create damage in the form of CO2 for instance.

    It suggests a way of extracting the useful hydrogen and useful solid carbon from otherwise hazardous methane... just burning it would release carbon into the air in a bad way...

    H2 extraction from CH4 results in the production of CO and CO2.

    https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-production-natural-gas-reforming

    I have not heard of any deployed process where pure carbon is a product. That is what would be required to give the "clean" property you describe.

    Note that there is research on alternative methods of H2 production from CH4.

    https://fuelcellsworks.com/news/gazprom-develops-climate-neutral-production-for-hydrogen/





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    Post  GarryB Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:15 am

    The technology Gazprom is looking into, however, is a process called methane pyrolysis. For this technique, natural gas is still used as the starting point of the process but the byproduct is different from methane reforming. By using heat, natural gas molecules are broken down into hydrogen and carbon which is not gaseous but solid. The carbon then can be used for other industrial processes and increase the value of the process.

    Well it can't be talking about solid hydrogen... I assumed it separated the Carbon in solid form from the Hydrogen... using heat, (but not combustion) it sounds like it separates the hydrogen and the carbon... the former in gas form of course and the latter in the form of solid carbon... if there is no combustion then surely CO and CO2 wont form... if it did there would be no solid carbon produced it would all be gas and water...

    Or am I not understanding it correctly?

    If this is correct then Methane would be the ideal form to carry hydrogen around... it just depends how long the process of separating the hydrogen and carbon takes as to whether it is useful or not... you could compress methane in tanks for storage and when needed process it to separate the hydrogen to pump through fuel cells for electricity...
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    Post  thegopnik Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:07 am

    Pretty important news especially for future interplanetary space travel to protect astronauts. https://ria.ru/20201116/urfu-1584446549.html?in=t

    Glass for radiation protection, which is three times more effective than existing analogues, was created by scientists of the Ural Federal University named after the first President of Russia B. N. Yeltsin (UrFU). The results are published in the journal Journal of Materials Research and Technology.
    The so-called heavy glass, which includes compounds with a high atomic number, is used to protect personnel from radiation at nuclear and industrial facilities, laboratories and medical centers.

    UrFU scientists investigated the radiation resistance of the glass of the prospective composition of xBi2O3-30B2O3-(65-x)ZnO-5BaO. According to them, the experiments showed excellent shielding properties of such glasses: mass easing factor, free mileage, a layer of ten-fold weakening and their other radiation characteristics exceed the parameters of materials traditionally used in radiation protection - concrete and lead.

    "Our material has proven to be three times more effective at absorbing photod radiation than the similar "heavy" glass is common today. Accordingly, performing a comparable task, it can be three times thinner. This gives a number of advantages, including noticeable savings," said Maria Pyshkina, a researcher in the Department of Experimental Physics at UrFU.

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    Post  Scorpius Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:58 pm

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    Rosatom presented a mobile data processing center based on Kamaz.

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    Post  Hole Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:13 pm

    For mobile hacker teams?

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    Post  Scorpius Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:45 pm

    CATAPULT LAUNCHING TESTS OF AN UNMANNED AERIAL VEHICLE WITH A RAMJET PULSED-DETONATION ENGINE
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    Abstract: The results of catapult launching tests of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) with power plants based on one and two paired ramjet pulsed detonation engines (PDEs) are presented. The world’s first autonomous flight of an UAV with a new type of ramjet power plant is demonstrated. The power plant includes an air intake with a mechanical check valve and detonation tube and is fueled by hydrocarbon fuels including regular aviation kerosene. At the speed of the approaching air flow from 30 to 120 m/s, the power plant provides the effective thrust up to 250 N with a fuel-based specific impulse of 1000–1200 s. The results of catapult launching tests of UAVs with a takeoff mass of up to 100 kg have shown that the PDE-based power plants provide a subsonic flight with acceleration and climbing. Due to the simplicity of design and low cost, as well as high propulsion performances, such power plants can be considered as an alternative to the propulsion units based on piston and turbojet engines for subsonic UAVs.
    Keywords: pulsed detonation engine; power plant; experimental sample; catapult launching tests; thrust performance; specific impulse
    DOI: 10.30826/CE19120108

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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:36 pm



    Not a joke. Russia like other countries is working on flying cars. But the project covered in the above video (5:35)
    is actually serious. It has a range of 100 km and can carry two passengers and has a size comparable to a regular
    sedan. Its flight ceiling is stated as 150 m. But I think this is not a real number since the aerodynamics at 300 m is
    not significantly different. The real problem is urban canyon turbulence and wind shear. Just like ultralight aircraft
    and even larger aircraft have problems in mountainous zones, these flying cars will be tossed around as well. These
    conditions do not disappear at 150 m and lower. Wind gusts can be extreme even at ground level.

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    Post  Hole Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:48 pm

    Nice roads. thumbsup
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    Post  GarryB Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:28 am

    The concept of flying cars is the dumbest thing in the west and around the world.

    I am sure people sitting in cars in traffic think the obvious solution is a flying car but they really don't think it through because while you being in a flying car and everyone else being in cars would be amazing.... you could zip around with no red lights and no lanes to worry about you could pick your path to work and home again each time because there wont be any other traffic.

    Well that has already been invented... it is called a helicopter and the reason everyone doesn't take advantage of it is because it is fucking expensive and you need to get and maintain a pilots licence which is also not cheap.

    For a flying car you need a car drivers licence and aircraft pilots licence and the warrant of fitness checks on a flying car will be extensive and expensive and by the time a poor shmuck like you gets one everyone else will have one and flying cars will be everywhere, but no traffic lights or white lines for lanes... no one way streets.... it would be a bloody nightmare and if you run out of fuel halfway to work or half way home you crash... a minor fender bender with another flying car could see everyone in both vehicles killed and the people and vehicles and buildings your two cars land on also getting killed or injured.

    Insurance is going to be real expensive.

    There are already cars that can fly... and there are communities in the US and also in New Zealand where houses are built around a small airstrip so you can land a light plane and taxi it off the runway and onto roads and park it in an oversized garage in your house, but it is expensive and you essentially need a car at the other end of your flight to get to work so you can live out from the city where you work with a 30minute flight instead of a 3 hour drive... perhaps some future city might be built where the factories and places of work have airfields next to them and in a huge ring around the area are suburbs with airfields so people can live a significant distance from where they work and just fly there in a couple of minutes instead of having to drive over hours... but a factory with thousands of workers and each has their own light plane causes problems of its own... maybe a series of runways along a train line where you fly in and land and get on the train... but then why bother with the plane... just have very fast double decker high density trains.

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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:32 am

    I think the concept being developed in Russia is not private flying cars for everyone, but a flying taxi. So this would be
    a type of small helicopter service instead of a ground vehicle service. I assume that the flying taxi drivers will be qualified
    pilots and not some random Joe Blow.

    But the problem of wind and turbulence in my view is the real show stopper for these concepts. People are high on
    future tech and watch too many movies like Blade Runner. All of it is detached from reality and fantasy fiction. In the
    real world the urban canyon effect is terminal for these light flying devices. They will not have the engine power
    to prevent themselves being tossed around like leaves in autumn. If someone thinks that I am exaggerating,
    then consider the idiot pilot of the Sukhoi SSJ in Indonesia who ignored altitude safety limits and plowed into a ridge.
    Then we had John Denver who disappeared in a leisure flight through a mountainous area. The air is not thin
    enough to be ignored and will exert enough force to f*ck up both you and your flying device.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:08 am

    I think a shared helicopter service could work but they simply are not big enough to have any real impact... even with an Mi-38 helicopter you could probably get 32 people comfortably in seats in there, but where are they going to get on... the flight to pick everyone up and then deliver everyone slows things down and complicates things.

    I would think a quality high speed train could do a much better job of moving enormous numbers of people in and out of a city.

    Would be very interesting in China to look at some of their brand new cities.

    Most current cities suffer because when it was first built it was much much smaller and over time band aids have been applied for growing pains till eventually the people who run the city have to bite the bullet and replace the various systems... a sewerage system designed for a city of 100,000 is hardly going to copy with 3 million people.

    Being able to design from scratch and knowing roughly the number of people who are supposed to live there before another city is built to take the overflow means you can build the main road with 16 lanes... 8 going each way including cycle lanes and bus and taxi lanes.

    The water and sewerage systems and electrical grid can be scaled suitably... and you can demand all high rise buildings have helipad capable rooves... even if it is not used for transport for emergency it would be a very useful thing either to evacuate the building in case of fire, or to evacuate an individual person on the ground.

    Turbulance can be dealt with simply by having a max height of say 15 stories or 25 stories and just fly helicopters above that altitude.

    I really do think trains offer the best solution for mass transit... but they need infrastructure and support too.
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    Post  kvs Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:01 pm



    A more focused video on the flying taxi.

    It looks like a scam to me. Where are the fuel tanks and those rinky dink fans are not going to be effective at all.
    They do not actually show this thing flying. I would be wary of some liberast psyop where this joke is used to
    make fun of Russia when it flops.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:48 am

    Been having a look at methane pyrolysis and it actually seems rather promising.

    It has enormous potential for a few different features.... first of all it releases hydrogen and the byproduct is solid Carbon.

    That means the chemical gas methane that is CH4 has a molecule of four hydrogen atoms held together by one carbon atom.

    Essentially the process of pyrolysis means freeing up the hydrogen without burning so the carbon does not mix with oxygen and so remains solid... and can be used in a process to create carbon nanotubes for instance.

    Methane is a gas and to get it to liquid form you would need to cool it down radically to temperatures that are not really very practical.

    The same idea however could be applied to related substances... like Nonane or linear alkane hydrocarbon... better known as Kerosene.

    Kerosenes chemical symbol is C9H20 and occurs at normal room temperature and room pressure as a liquid which makes it a very efficient way of carrying around enormous amounts of Hydrogen gas in a form where that hydrogen can be extracted and used and the byproduct will be large amounts of solid carbon that can be stored and used.

    As Kerosene it would be relatively easy to transport and store, while being a useful supply of hydrogen when needed.

    On a vessel like an airship or submarine or ship it could be used to extract large amounts of hydrogen for lifting gas, or to use in a fuel cell, or in an emergency could be used in a gas turbine together with oxygen as a fuel.
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    Post  kvs Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:39 am

    Yes, pyrolysis is the way to actually get H2 without CO2 and CO release.

    But the point should not be to get H2 but to use fuel cells to extract energy from any fuel in a controlled manner.
    For example NH3 into H2O and N2. H2 into H2O is not the only option. NH3 can be stored as a liquid without
    effort. H2 is a royal PITA.

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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:36 am

    Flying cars won't ever take off (pun intended). Can't regulate the traffic, deadly if fuel runs out, lack of infrastructure to land the system, etc etc.

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