Homosexuality: weapon of the West

Werewolf wrote:Welcome to a liberal world where crazyness and irresponsible people are allowed to do anything

Very true... Look at this "transabled" bull crap that's going around.

Regular wrote:Adoption is nothing compared to this
Gay couple to become fathers to three babies in just seven months after meeting three different surrogate mothers online
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2828276/Gay-couple-fathers-three-babies-just-seven-months-meeting-three-different-surrogate-mothers-online.html

Christ, one of thems a Chinese queer! I wonder what his real name is?
Suk Lot Kok?

Seriously tho, sickeness is what destroys societies.
I think they promote perversion aka "sexual/lifestyle freedom", to mask how freedoms eg economic are taken away in other areas.

Perhaps its all like the fall of Ancient Rome.

The media NEVER mentions the huge links between homosexuality and paedophilia.
The British Home Office govt figures say that 1 to 1.5 % of the population is queer. Yet 22% of sexual assaults are committed by pillowbiters, acc to the same source! Probably much more, because of how reluctant young boys would be in coming forward.

I am all for tolerance to gays and no discrimination. But what we have is something else, it is the rabid promotion of the
gay "lifestyle" and aiming it at children. That is why Russia passed the law that NATO degenerates went ape sh*t
over. Society has a right to establish norms and Sodom and Gomorrah style "progress" is not inevitable and to be desired.
Some elements of society have a vested interest in breaking down morality and norms which maintain the social fabric.

kvs wrote:I am all for tolerance to gays and no discrimination.  But what we have is something else, it is the rabid promotion of the
gay "lifestyle" and aiming it at children.   That is why Russia passed the law that NATO degenerates went ape sh*t
over.  Society has a right to establish norms and Sodom and Gomorrah style "progress" is not inevitable and to be desired.
Some elements of society have a vested interest in breaking down morality and norms which maintain the social fabric.

I agree 100%.

I'll tolerate it, but promoting "it" and "gender fluidity" in minors is perverted.

Aggree with kvs.

We have to distinguish here two different things. One thing is the rights of homosexuals and transsexuals and the other thing is homosexual agenda. Homosexuals and transsexuals exist through whole human history and they represent mostly constant small part of society. They have their rights to exist and to live with their partners in peace as well as their right to no discrimination regarding work, education and health care. I doubt they really want much more than that.

Other thing is homosexual agenda, which is enforced on western society by elites. Their goal is different. They don't care about homosexuals and transsexuals as such. Their goal is to reduce the number of population and to take full control over child births. One tool in their agenda is using genetically modified food, which also make people sterile, so they could not reproduce children and the second tool is to enforce same sex partnerships, which bring to the same result. Majority of babies will be produced in laboratories and they will be perfect slaves for elites. Smart enough, that they could work for them, but without their own will, so they could not resist. Their numbers will be also limited. Only as much as they need them. Elites don't like traditional partnerships, because they could still bring children even if they eat GMO food and this children will still have their own will and could resist. Same sex partners could not have children, so they could get them only in laboratories, under full control of elites.

medo wrote:We have to distinguish here two different things. One thing is the rights of homosexuals and transsexuals and the other thing is homosexual agenda. Homosexuals and transsexuals exist through whole human history and they represent mostly constant small part of society. They have their rights to exist and to live with their partners in peace as well as their right to no discrimination regarding work, education and health care. I doubt they really want much more than that.

Other thing is homosexual agenda, which is enforced on western society by elites. Their goal is different. They don't care about homosexuals and transsexuals as such. Their goal is to reduce the number of population and to take full control over child births. One tool in their agenda is using genetically modified food, which also make people sterile, so they could not reproduce children and the second tool is to enforce same sex partnerships, which bring to the same result. Majority of babies will be produced in laboratories and they will be perfect slaves for elites. Smart enough, that they could work for them, but without their own will, so they could not resist. Their numbers will be also limited. Only as much as they need them. Elites don't like traditional partnerships, because they could still bring children even if they eat GMO food and this children will still have their own will and could resist. Same sex partners could not have children, so they could get them only in laboratories, under full control of elites.

Nobody said anything different, nobody cares here about the homosexuals. We only are annoyed and see through this bullshit LGBT lobbist groups that are pushing agendas while Homosexuals do not even account for 0.5% of the worlds population.

Werewolf wrote:

medo wrote:We have to distinguish here two different things. One thing is the rights of homosexuals and transsexuals and the other thing is homosexual agenda. Homosexuals and transsexuals exist through whole human history and they represent mostly constant small part of society. They have their rights to exist and to live with their partners in peace as well as their right to no discrimination regarding work, education and health care. I doubt they really want much more than that.

Other thing is homosexual agenda, which is enforced on western society by elites. Their goal is different. They don't care about homosexuals and transsexuals as such. Their goal is to reduce the number of population and to take full control over child births. One tool in their agenda is using genetically modified food, which also make people sterile, so they could not reproduce children and the second tool is to enforce same sex partnerships, which bring to the same result. Majority of babies will be produced in laboratories and they will be perfect slaves for elites. Smart enough, that they could work for them, but without their own will, so they could not resist. Their numbers will be also limited. Only as much as they need them. Elites don't like traditional partnerships, because they could still bring children even if they eat GMO food and this children will still have their own will and could resist. Same sex partners could not have children, so they could get them only in laboratories, under full control of elites.

Nobody said anything different, nobody cares here about the homosexuals. We only are annoyed and see through this bullshit LGBT lobbist groups that are pushing agendas while Homosexuals do not even account for 0.5% of the worlds population.

I know, but a lot of people think it is the same thing.

What I find most disturbing about Western leaders is that they'll fight for LGBT rights everywhere...except for when it's in Saudi Arabia...because it turns out that the Petro-Dollar matters more than their fraudulent human rights black propaganda that they so love to peddle!

I am utterly disgusted by some of the unbelievably retarded and illiterate homophobic rants around here (like from this "Firebird"), i am more disgusted by these  persons than they are of the gay peoples. They are more deserving of loath than gay peoples (or insert any social or racial group that they  show their animalic hate against). Pitiful and pathetic! I will report them first before answering in anger. I just want them to know who it is.

German scientists have proven Sodium Fluoride affects the brain and lowers the IQ and the ability of coherent thought processes

Indeed, looks like a few here drank far too much of that, and it shows!

mack8 wrote:I am utterly disgusted by some of the unbelievably retarded and illiterate homophobic rants around here (like from this "Firebird"), i am more disgusted by these  persons than they are of the gay peoples. They are more deserving of loath than gay peoples (or insert any social or racial group that they  show their animalic hate against). Pitiful and pathetic! I will report them first before answering in anger. I just want them to know who it is.

German scientists have proven Sodium Fluoride affects the brain and lowers the IQ and the ability of coherent thought processes

Indeed, looks like a few here drank far too much of that, and it shows!

What a ridiculous rant!

I've posted the facts. And guess what.. you can't handle them.

Homosexuality is illegal in half the world, and controversial to say the least in the other half. But sadly, the Establishment forces it down people's throats. No pun intended.

I treat homosexuals the same as any other group who promote sexual fetishes to the young and impressionable. If some sado masochist demanded the  "right" to be treated like a human dog, or an "ageplay" weirdo I'd ridicule him or her too. So far, those nuts havent demanded "rights" too.

Homosexuals are allowed to do their shit in private, acc to the law in Europe, Russia, the US etc. No other sexual subgroup is allowed to flaunt its preferences in public, so why the hell should they? Ofcourse they should NOT.

So whats your solution? A little hissy fit branding about that ridiculous meaningless phrase "homophobia".

Just because we're sickened by something, it doesnt mean we are "afraid" of it. You dont have "murderophobia" so why invent a pathetic word like "homophobia"?

Its clear, you've lost the debate!

Firebird wrote:So whats your solution?

How about the easiest one? Treating things like adults.

whir wrote:

Firebird wrote:So whats your solution?

How about the easiest one? Treating things like adults.

That is the easiest solution, to seperate sexual preferences from politics. To politicize something stupid like this and to force it down throats of the absolute majority of heterosexuals and specifically children is a) not democratic b) violation of human rights (yes heteroes and kids have rights not just gays) c) indoctrination and perversification of children.

Werewolf wrote:That is the easiest solution, to seperate sexual preferences from politics.

But you can't since legislation also governs human relations.

yeah some of the people in here really make "the east" look bad.

in my opinion, you might not share it, the smartest and the right thing to do is allow gay marriage ( most due to legal and economic benefits ), or to put it in Firebird terms, so you can sit by the hospital bed, when your hiv infested immoral partner is dying. Getting couple benefits and soo on and on.

Also dont really see a problem with gay people adopting children, still a much better life than in the orphanage, regardless of the shitload of hazzing this kids will recive at first. But lets not forget, 20-30 years ago it was "immoral" to be a bastard or from a single parent family, today noone thinks about it twice. Same thing will happen with children of gay couples after the first wave of hate.

One more smart thing would be to ignore the local religious authorities wherever you live, they wont be bringing in a sensible view.

when you do this (or at least do point one), the boring LGBT flag wavers dont have a lot of argument why your country is soo soo bad, noone really gets hurt and a few people even benefit.


have a nice day

Prince Darling wrote:yeah some of the people in here really make "the east" look bad.

in my opinion, you might not share it, the smartest and the right thing to do is allow gay marriage ( most due to legal and economic benefits ), or to put it in Firebird terms, so you can sit by the hospital bed, when your hiv infested immoral partner is dying. Getting couple benefits and soo on and on.

Also dont really see a problem with gay people adopting children, still a much better life than in the orphanage, regardless of the shitload of hazzing this kids will recive at first. But lets not forget, 20-30 years ago it was "immoral" to be a bastard or from a single parent family, today noone thinks about it twice. Same thing will happen with children of gay couples after the first wave of hate.

One more smart thing would be to ignore the local religious authorities wherever you live, they wont be bringing in a sensible view.

when you do this (or at least do point one), the boring LGBT flag wavers dont have a lot of argument why your country is soo soo bad, noone really gets hurt and a few people even benefit.


have a nice day

LGBT groups have nothing positive to say, those groups are not filled or financed by homos, but by private corporations and lobbies who are not gay but are pushing such groups to radicalize the society to extremes of pedophilia and homosexuality. You can't make a grown human to a homosexual because they already had their puberty and had a normal development, normal and healthy mindset towards sexuality, kids which are pushed with LGBT groups and WHO (World Health Orginasation) are pushing to early sexualization of children of kindergarden age with the propaganda that those kids are not boys or girls, they can decide for themselfs what they are and who they can fvck. That is an absurd nonsense that is abnormal to extremes, nothing like that exists in nature. There are no animals that act so absurd and psychotic and completeley destroyed mentality. There are no animals that believe they are the opposite sex. You got a penis you are a man, you got a vagina you are a women, no such thing like gender. Such people need to see psychatrists ASAP, because they have been manipulated to a point where they deny and are confused about their own existence and purpose. Man and women exist because we are mortal, but the insticts and mothernature wants to survive, so we need to reproduce. Homosexuals do not reproduce if they choose to stay in homosexual relationsship, but those LGBT groups push for nonsense that homosexuals are NORMAL, the terminology of normal is the NORM the majority the current state as soon this current state of healthy normal existence changes, the numbers in humans change meaning we are under a genocide. You can search in various definiton books the terminology of Genocide. Controlling of birth rates and adjusting them for a reduction of birth rate is a genocide.

Nobody gives a single fvck who gays screw, nobody cares, but those non homosexual members of LGBT groups who finance and direct those lobbiest groups against families and laws which protect families and the current state of traditions are a cancer which must be destroyed at all costs!

lol to you honestly believe that western propaganda produces gay people?

there are gay animals my friend.

not all gay people are into pedofilia.

you are arguing that gay people should see a doctor, for what, to produce more self hating "not gay" but really gay people?

whats your opinion on hetero people that dont have kids, and dont contribute to the "big plan"?

P.S. the globa human population is obviously rising


Also didnt quite read your position on gay marriage (civil union) and the right to adopt children.

The LGBT groups sure did a good job making you look bad, you are rambling like an ISIS preacher here

Werewolf wrote:LGBT groups have nothing positive to say

Then how about giving voice to those that don't are in those groups?

Prince Darling wrote:lol to you honestly believe that western propaganda produces gay people?

there are gay animals my friend.

you are arguing that gay people should see a doctor, for what, to produce more self hating "not gay" but really gay people?

Either you should check your eyes or learn comprehensive reading.

TRANSsexuals are the once that should check doctors ASAP, that is abnormal there are not even animals that believe to be a an opposite sex. Gay animals are BISEXUAL not gay specifically, because they still understand what reproduction is necessary for survival of genetics.

not all gay people are into pedofilia.

There are more homosexuals that are pedophile than heterosexuals per capita.

This is not a stereotype but very famous among religious groups because they are the first ones that get caught and in most cases it is always homosexuals christians or jews that are sucking on boys, less often with girls.

The green parties which are mostly liberals have a higher amount of homosexual and pedophile members that are trying to push for legalisation of pedophilia like the german Green Party Grüne 90 Bündnis.

Of course to use studies and their numbers is mostly unreliable untill credibility of the groups who make such studies is disclosed and can not be accounted for homosexual  LGBT groups or christian groups.

whats your opinion on hetero people that dont have kids, and dont contribute to the "big plan"?

Different reasons, financially not strong enough to raise a family, not fertile, some are asocial based on different social events in their lifes who also stay single for the rest of their lifes called Otakus in japan...this phenomenon is a modern phenomenon, due the social conditioning of the elite through media and propaganda. That single life is awesome that you do not need family, that carreer is more important than marriage and children, that you do not even need a women in your life you have everyday access to porn (which is a big factor for young people to stay single for a long time  before feeling like they should engage in a relationship) all those factors contribute to it, but the difference is natural cause like not being fertile be it through birth defect or because of becoming unfertile due work related or unhealthy, toxication or similiar causes... and the other extreme of indoctrination that  A Single life is better than raising a family and that only Squared people live such a life and are sacrificing their personal dreams and happines (Ultra-Liberal bullshit propaganda). Liberals are cancerous to the society.

P.S. the globa human population is obviously rising

Yes, but not in the so called First world. It is decaying. Germanies birth rate each year is around 680.000 birth and mortality each year is 830.000. You can see the declining of birthrate in almost all western countries, while when looking at birth rate of eastern or southern countries the birth rate is sustaining or raising despite being economically inferior it is the Mindset, the propaganda of not becoming a father or a mother. The feminazi radical lobbiest groups are constantly shaming women that do want to become mother and see happiness from mothership and in western countries you see that most young women are affected by this radical views of feminazis which have pushed their agenda into Hollywood where mothers are always depicted as archaic, overstressed women that have a horrible life and that they are just the sex and cooking slave of their husbands stuck with a baby. That is exactly how mothers are depicted in the absolute majority of hollywood bullshit. So don't try to portray it here that the birth rate is raising like this is everywhere the case, it is only in non westernized countries the case, while western countries are depopulated purposely.

Also didnt quite read your position on gay marriage (civil union) and the right to adopt children.

I said that already but you have some problems with reading or you just cherry pick on what you read so you can start a debate.

I do not care if they "marry" each other i just do not give two f**ks about it, they can screw each other all day, not my problem. I am against adoption to gay married couples. Each child has right to be raised in a healthy relationship to see both the affects on its development from a father and a mother, lacking one or the other has always affects on how a child develops. Mothers give horrible and i mean really horrible advices to boys when they have problems at school with bullies. Most man and i mean traditional man do teach their sons how to deal with such problems. Mothers tell you just ignore the bully who hits you in the face... because ignoring bullies always helped, my father teached me how to fight and i could deal with my bullies at some point on my own, nobody bullies me now. That is just one of countless arguments i can give. The other point is if you engage and choose for a homosexual relationship without contributing your own genetics for reproduction you choose a life without children. The numbers of gays on this globus is less than 0.5%, the majority of parents who apply for adoption are heterosexuals, why should a homosexual couple be favored over the vast majority of heterosexuals? Please do not come with this constant bullshit non argument LGBT groups come up with.

"What if you have a bad heterosexual couple and a good homosexual couple...you probably would still favor the heterosexual couple" That is not an argument just imbecility that speaks out of people.
Adoption orphanages usually controll and check the families, where the kid suppossed to live. How the surroundings are, if the parents are healthy and not some drug or alc addicts, if they have criminal past etc. If you have one couple of unqualified parents regardless of their sexual preferences, they fall out of the qualifications and requirements of becoming adoptive parents, period.

The LGBT groups sure did a good job making you look bad, you are rambling like an ISIS preacher here

You are really here only to start a debate to try to get personal with people aren't you?

Nothing i said is hostile towards anyone, nothing i said calls for killing of anyone, nothing i said can be considered human rights abuse, unlike your lovely LGBT groups a group of pedophiles.

Then how about giving voice to those that don't are in those groups?

Most gays are not in a LGBT group and quite some of them just like the radical feminists groups do not speak on the behalf of homos or females. You can find enough gays speaking against LGBT just as vast majority of females speaking against this feminist bullshit and the Lobbies that are pushing for complete radical nonsense.

Lol how do you know that no animals want to change their sex? because you can communicate with animals?

Yet again why does it bother you if someone changes their gender? it might be gross when you think about it, but soooooo what

You must be very very worried about the church and church officials, you know having the highest % of pedofiles in their ranks, the fact that you put gay and pedofile in the same sentance, makes you look a bit like a moron.

Pretty sure that the number being floated around is that 10% of the population is gay (ABOMINATION!!!!!), by that stat someone gay is probably in this topic.


Is it ok for gay people to contribute their DNA for artificial insemination, and is the baby really theirs.

With future advances in medicine, where two men can contribute their dna and have a baby, will they become normal, baby making fine citizens?


one paradox that i hope you can answer to me, all gay people were born to hetero parents right?

P.S. do you really believe your views arent hostile to anyone, while at the same time trying to make correlation between gay and pedofile.
hope my correlation of pedofile and religious figure doesnt offend you.

Prince Darling wrote:Lol how do you know that no animals want to change their sex? because you can communicate with animals?

Alone to ask such a stupid question shows how retarded and indoctrinated someone can become from this bullshit. That is the same stupid questiosn the WHO (World Health Organisation) asks children in Kindergarden due their new propaganda and "sexual education". They ask such stupid questions to boys: "How do you know you are a boy and how do you know you should like girls?"

To ask such questions shows that you are indeed confused about reality.

Prince Darling wrote:Yet again why does it bother you if someone changes their gender? it might be gross when you think about it, but soooooo what

Another completely abnormal question to even ask. South park handles this absurdity of this Transgender bullshit and this Gendermainstream quite well.

Prince Darling wrote:You must be very very worried about the church and church officials, you know having the highest % of pedofiles in their ranks, the fact that you put gay and pedofile in the same sentance, makes you look a bit like a moron.

Again attack at hominem makes you look uneducated which you obviously are. The majority of pedophiles are homosexuals. The numbers of child molestation show that per capita 287.1 of homosexuals and heterosexuals of men abusing girls is 18.7 per capita. The fact that is not some heterosexual Lobbies promoting legalisation of pedophilia but LGBT groups that are promoting such change of law speaks also for that fact that LGBT groups human rights violators and show the more common and widespread connection of homosexuals and their higher numbers which they have of pedophiles.

http://www.wnd.com/2002/04/13722/

I do not know a single lobbist group of heterosexuals that promote pedophilia which at the same time are against homosexuality. While i can name you several groups (LGBT) that are pushing for legalistion of pedophilia. Liberal parties through out EU, the ethic council of EU, France,Germany and Ethic council of UK all promote pedophilia which are connected to LGBT groups, Green party which financed the german homosexual lobby through the 80's and probably have never stopped. Lobbies like ACT-UP promote pedophilia which is a LGBT group, homosexual magazine Guide...such behavior and legalisation pushing of pedophilia is very widespread in our western countries from LGBT groups.

Pretty sure that the number being floated around is that 10% of the population is gay (ABOMINATION!!!!!), by that stat someone gay is probably in this topic.

Horse shit, that is only true in Hollywood TV and movies where almost every damn show, series or movie has at least one gay. Actual reality proofs otherwise of all people i have met i can assume the number is around 1%. By that statistics that someone is gay is probably you, looking how you try to openly shame me in this thread with personal attacks rather then making a point and discussing it, but debates are easier of course. Credibility destruction...

Is it ok for gay people to contribute their DNA for artificial insemination, and is the baby really theirs.

With future advances in medicine, where two men can contribute their dna and have a baby, will they become normal, baby making fine citizens?

You must be really deeply confused about how nature works if you ask such stupid questions...that is one possiblity the other one is you are just a horrible gay troll that only wants to steer up shit. No medical advanceness will bring that and of curse such bullshit is still abnormal. Our species consists of two sexes, Male and Female, if two of the same sex have a baby with each other makes them very abnormal. We wouldn't need two sexes in our species if we could reproduce with one sex, but that would change us to Asexual beings, because no species has only one sex the exception would be hermophrodites, but no Transgender is a hermophrodite, they are still genetically male or female and not fertile, while hermaphrodites can be if they genetic defect is not that sphere, which is still abnormal.


Alone to even have to explain such basic Bees and flowers to someone supposedly grown up shows how sick this ultra liberal shithole the West has become, just sickening. Even animals do not need someone to explain to them how reproduction works...retarded human species designed to kill itself, you are very good example of how screwed we are by our own perversitions and social conditioning.

one paradox that i hope you can answer to me, all gay people were born to hetero parents right?

P.S. do you really believe your views arent hostile to anyone, while at the same time trying to make correlation between gay and pedofile.
hope my correlation of pedofile and religious figure doesnt offend you.

4th Argumentum ad hominem. Nothing i said is hostile against anyone. Homos can screw each other they can marry i do not care. LGBT groups on the other hand are human rights violators and are a cancer, they have no rights whatsoever.

If you push further with your ad hominem attacks and your twisting of words we will have a mod cleaning up this nonsense, nothing i have said accounts for all homosexuals being pedophiles, what i said is majority of LGBT groups promote pedophilia and that homosexuals have a higher number of pedophiles then heterosexuals, non of this words generalizes any of those sexual preferences.

Bring arguments to a discussion or refrain from this thread if you have nothing to contribute except stupid attempts of destroying someones reputation, which you can't succeed, this isn't some imbecility forum where people can't think for themselfs and jump on any bandwagon is "political correctness" garbage.

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ok you win

hope you will be a bit more gay in the future

and not soo worried about the abominations (which you arent i know)

Prince Darling wrote:ok you win

hope you will be a bit more gay in the future

and not soo worried about the abominations (which you arent i know)

Ad hominem 5, trying to portray me that i am against gays, while everything i said is against LGBT lobbiest and not against gays... you really failed proper Reputation destruction class 101...

You all have right. Dont know exacly why such thing is promoted. Maibe is that for some to accept that others boys rule

First of all staying whit a girl give you satisfaction exacly because they are different that boys. The girls are the " key" in all reproductive process...the evolution made all this whit a purpose to assure best transmit of genes to future generations. I remind that uncomplex forms of life dont have sex. And how teyre evolved? The answer to evolution is sex differences. And sexual behaviour. Whitout sexuality between boys and girls we will not evolve.