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max steel wrote:Book are you from US only ? I can't get your english properly . ( no offense )
GarryB wrote:The US had communications systems in the 1960s but nothing like the IADS the Soviets have had over the same period... the main difference is that Barnaul-m now integrates MANPADS into the system, which is primarily interested in stopping cruise missiles and other strategic threats.
MANPADS of previous designs were unable to hit cruise missiles so there was no point in integrating them fully into the IADS... now they have.
And Stinger has a range closer to 5km... 8km range is BS.... like the 600m "effective" range of M16... since proven more like 200m... in terms of lethality.
Werewolf wrote:max steel wrote:Book are you from US only ? I can't get your english properly . ( no offense )
Book is a prototype AI that process highly intelligent questions and data to modulate the processed information into output which is limited by 40 characters, which is problem off not always understanding him, but well enough to compete against Yoda.
KBM unveils decoy-resistant Verba MANPADS
Miroslav Gyürösi, Moscow and Robin Hughes, London - IHS Jane's Missiles & Rockets
05 July 2015
Key Points
- New multispectral seeker enables clearer, faster discrimination between targets and decoys
Enhancements extend the missile's engagement envelope by a factor of 2.5
Russia's Konstruktorskoye Byuro Mashinostroyeniya (KBM) unveiled its next-generation 9K333 Verba (Willow) man-portable air defence system (MANPADS) at the Army-2015 International Military-Technical Forum in Kubinka.
KBM designer General Valeriy Mikhaylovics Kashin said the Verba system significantly improves upon the accuracy and performance of the earlier 9K338 Igla-S (SA-24/Grouse) MANPADS, primarily through the integration of a new multispectral optical seeker, which uses three sensors - ultraviolet, near-infrared, and mid-infrared - as opposed to the dual-waveband infrared used in the Igla-S system. Kashin said the multispectral sensor enables faster discrimination between appropriate targets and decoys, and decreases the chance of disruption from infrared countermeasures, including high-power flares and lasers.
The Verba's kinematic kill range remains practically the same as the Igla-S (slant range up to 6,000 m (19,680 ft) and altitudes of up to 3,500 m) but KBM said the engagement envelope has been extended by a factor of 2.5, and protection from high-power flares improved by a factor of 10. The company says that these improvements optimise the use of the missile's energy consumption with lower quantities of missiles now required to defeat an aerial target and deliver a general increase in performance by a factor of 1.5 to 2.
A typical 9K333 Verba MANPADS system comprises a 9M336 missile with the new multispectral optical seeker, developed by LOMO of St Petersburg, and a new warhead developed by the RFNC- VNIIEF facility in Sarov; a 9P521 launcher; a Maugli-2M (1PN97M) infrared imaging sight (also developed by LOMO); and 1L229V ground-based IFF interrogator. The systems are integrated and produced by the Degtyarev Plant in Korov.
Additional components include a 9S935 gunner's target cueing set; a 9C931 mission planning module; a1L122 compact radar; a 9C931 mission planning module; a 9V861 mobile control station; a 9C932-1 reconnaissance and control module; a 9C933 portable fire control module (brigade level), a 9C933-1 divisional level system integration set; and a 9C935 automated anti-aircraft set.
The training aids for the 9K333 Verba user include a 9F877 computerised classroom, a 9F859 Konus complex simulator, a 9F874 unified classroom simulator, and 9F663M and 9F635M1 tactical field training sets. Basic maintenance systems include the 9V682 test equipment set and the 9V681 mobile test station.
KBM qualified the 9K333 Verba system with the 9M336 missile in 2012 following which the company received approval for low rate initial production of the complete system. In 2014 KBM began initial deliveries of Verba to the Russian Armed Forces' Southern Military District and Eastern Military District commands, with the system officially accepted into service with the Russian Armed Forces in 2015.
Kashin said that KBM has requested export clearance for the Verba, and that this approval is expected to be authorised in the near term.
Verba vs Stinger
Russia recently announced that some troops had begun receiving the new Verba shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles. This missile had been mentioned for several years, as a replacement for the Igla-S models. Also known as the SA-24, this one is a post-Cold War upgrade of a design that was introduced the same time as the American Stinger (early 1980s).
Igla-S entered service in 2004, weighs 19 kg (42 pounds) and fires an 11.7 kg (26 pound) missile for up to 6,000 meters.No exact specifications on the Verba have been released yet but they are probably somewhere between Igla-S and the Stinger.
Verba is said to have about 20 percent greater range, speed and altitude as well as a 20 percent heavier warhead.
The heat sensor is more effective as is the ability to defeat countermeasures.In contrast the 14.3 kg American Stinger fires its 10.1 kg missile out to 8,000 meters but both systems have similar resistance to countermeasures and a warhead of about the same size (2-3 kg/4.4-6.6 pounds).
The Igla-S in the hands of terrorists could bring down helicopters and airliners taking off but was designed for battlefield use against helicopters and other low flying aircraft.
Along with Verba comes a new control system for short range anti-aircraft systems.
The Russian press release describes the new command and control system as unrivaled.
That said, the U.S. has had such systems since the 1960s but the Russians don’t make any comparisons.
magnumcromagnon wrote:Like this?
A key feature of MANPADS" Willow "is the ability to hit low-radiation targets such as cruise missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles, under the impact of false thermal noise at a height of 10 to 4500 meters and at a distance of 500 to 6500 meters, "- he said.
Russian Defense Ministry: more than 50 sets of MANPADS "Verba" entered service ZVO
sweartome123 wrote:Sorry if this has previously been discussed.
What major advantages does this new system have over earlier ones of domestic or foreign design?
sheytanelkebir wrote:guys i'm trying to understand whether this is a verba or a igla-s please help!
KoTeMoRe wrote:Looks like Igla S, normally VERBA has the two "taps"/"lids" on the side (left side), not one on the side, on on top.
Militarov wrote:KoTeMoRe wrote:Looks like Igla S, normally VERBA has the two "taps"/"lids" on the side (left side), not one on the side, on on top.
Iraqis just got certain amount of 1PN97M thermal imagers which is confusing people as they are seen on Verba.
KoTeMoRe wrote:Militarov wrote:KoTeMoRe wrote:Looks like Igla S, normally VERBA has the two "taps"/"lids" on the side (left side), not one on the side, on on top.
Iraqis just got certain amount of 1PN97M thermal imagers which is confusing people as they are seen on Verba.
trying to shoot down Turkish Migrating Birds?
Militarov wrote:KoTeMoRe wrote:Militarov wrote:KoTeMoRe wrote:Looks like Igla S, normally VERBA has the two "taps"/"lids" on the side (left side), not one on the side, on on top.
Iraqis just got certain amount of 1PN97M thermal imagers which is confusing people as they are seen on Verba.
trying to shoot down Turkish Migrating Birds?
ISIS airforce, whoever feels like taking that role
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