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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:17 am

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:

    There is another instance when the author "over-credits" the Soviets in this book.

    He claims that the GL (People's Guard) received air drops from the Soviets during 1942, but in reality that too is false.


    The GL did not receive a single air drop from the Soviets (or anybody) during entire 1942.

    There was a single air drop by the Soviets into the occupied Poland at the end of 1941, before even the GL was even founded (during early January of 1942); several people were parachuted (the future leaders of the GL) together with a very small quantity of firearms and ammunition, and I think also a radio transmitter. After that there was nothing for the entire 1942; the Soviets did not made their first ever air drop to the GL until 1943.





    The first ever Soviet air drop to the GL (People's Guard) only took place in September of 1943, and it was extremely small; only three machine pistols together with some ammunition.

    You can read about it here:


    "Podczas zgrupowania dowództwa obwodu we wrześniu 1943 roku w lasach parczewskich został utworzony, między innymi okręg Gwardii Ludowej nr 5 południowej Lubelszczyzny. (...).

    Podczas zgrupowania GL w lasach parczewskich otrzymaliśmy mały zrzut broni. Z niecierpliwością oczekiwaliśmy na ten zrzut, który właściwie był pierwszym zrzutem dla oddziałów partyzanckich GL. Nie spełnił nam naszych nadziei, ponieważ grupa otrzymała tylko trzy pistolety maszynowe z pewnym zapasem amunicji."


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    Post  Guest Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:19 am

    Not sure if this is right thread for this but ill post it here anyways.

    He 219 A-2 wing of the Smithsonian's National Air Museum is restored:

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    Post  Svyatoslavich Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:58 am

    Militarov wrote:Not sure if this is right thread for this but ill post it here anyways.

    He 219 A-2 wing of the Smithsonian's National Air Museum is restored:

    I deeply despise Nazism, but find that German aircraft were the coolest of WWII. Nice to see this beautfil bird restored.
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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:02 am

    Nice vid & music, I believe.

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    Post  SturmGuard Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:26 pm

    Svyatoslavich wrote:
    Militarov wrote:Not sure if this is right thread for this but ill post it here anyways.

    He 219 A-2 wing of the Smithsonian's National Air Museum is restored:

    I deeply despise Nazism, but find that German aircraft were the coolest of WWII. Nice to see this beautfil bird restored.


    Nah, they just had great post-war PR, in order to appeal to the "greatest generation". Bf 109 was a death trap post 1942, FW-190 variants were outmatched at all altitudes by appropriate opposing fighters, Me-262 had terrible engine reliability and tendency to kill pilots, those specialised bomber destroyer aircraft were sitting ducks for Allied and Soviet fighters. Really, German aircraft engines were primitive compared to British and American ones. They held out because they utilised their best pilots without rotation, but, due to attrition and losses, it left them with increasingly poor pilots in the long run. The same way it was bad to form something as stupid as Panzer Lehr.
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    Post  max steel Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:58 am

    Red Army could win whole Europe as the most authoritative scholars on this matter in US confirm. Nuclear bomb in 1945 and 1946 have not been the weapon which could stop this theoretical advance.


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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:04 pm

    The Great Patriotic War took so heavy toll on Soviet demographics that by early 1945 even this large manpower reserves were drying out. Deployment of additional 500,000 troops to the eastern front would be catastrophic for the Red Army.
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    Post  max steel Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:01 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:The Great Patriotic War took so heavy toll on Soviet demographics that by early 1945 even this large manpower reserves were drying out. Deployment of additional 500,000 troops to the eastern front would be catastrophic for the Red Army.


    I disagree about the term "catastrophic" but there is no denial that mobilization strain was immense.
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    Post  Werewolf Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:28 pm

    The Soviet union had ~57 mln reservists, drying out... certainly not.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:42 pm

    Werewolf wrote:The Soviet union had ~57 mln reservists, drying out... certainly not.
    Where does the data come from?
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    Post  GarryB Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:54 am

    They also suffered a huge shortage of troops by the end of 1941 when a large portion of their most heavily populated western territory was occupied by the Germans... didn't really stop them from fronting up each year with new troops.

    The western militaries were in much worse shape by the end of the war and they had Europe to rebuild.

    The ten or so million Soviet Troops killed was comparable to the number of people killed in Germany during the war... many of the 20 odd million Soviets killed were women and children and the elderly.
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    Post  Guest Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:28 am



    Vomited 3 times at least
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    Post  archangelski Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:20 am

    Even after so many years, the same disgusting ideas remains in the minds of the Nazis...
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    Post  Werewolf Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:26 pm

    Well that is news, Stalin is a bolshevist...

    Yes, clearly brainwashed and the comment section is nazi infiltrated aswell.
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    Post  OminousSpudd Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:29 pm

    Well that is quite the find. Suspect
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    Post  Guest Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:01 pm

    Werewolf wrote:Well that is news, Stalin is a bolshevist...

    Yes, clearly brainwashed and the comment section is nazi infiltrated aswell.

    Comment section is more than amusing i must agree. But these guys in videos are hillarious Smile
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    Post  JohninMK Mon May 02, 2016 12:02 am

    The first Russia/US meeting on the Elbe photo to get back to US HQ. Pretty dangerous as well. Apparently there was three meeting that day, the one before the official photo opportunity.

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    Post  higurashihougi Sun May 08, 2016 3:46 pm

    https://www.rt.com/news/342247-children-war-diaries-book/

    A book of 35 diaries written by Soviet children in 1941-1945, the years of the Great Patriotic War, has been translated into English. It contains written testimonies of the horrors of fighting with Nazis documented with a child’s sincerity.

    "In adults' diaries, the author is still trying to build some sort of drama, while children have been sincerely writing about what they saw and felt, and that's the main value of these documents. They haven't been edited by anyone, they've been written honestly, with no censorship or self-censorship applied," the book's editor, Tatyana Kuznetsova, told RT.

    One boy who had to live in a foster home was writing in his small notebook about how many of his friends were dying of hunger and at the same time drew "amazing" images of food such as "ham and chicken" in the pages of his diary, the editor said.

    Featuring memories and impressions of youngsters who lived through some of the most traumatic episodes in world's history, the book, titled, "Children of War," includes diaries written by children during the 1941-44 siege of Leningrad, in Nazi concentration camps, as well as those written while living in occupied territories and on the frontline.

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