The Situation in the Ukraine. #10

magnumcromagnon wrote:Looks like US media is claiming Itar-Tass is a Russian spy agency. This is coming off the heels of recent comments from the head of the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG) who's now claiming 'Russia Today' is on par and comparable to ISIS...this is getting really pathetic:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/27/meet-russian-spies-best-friends-in-the-media-itar-tass.html

"He hoarsely shouts "Glory to Ukraine", tells everyone what a neurotically typical patriot he is. He is the best strategist in the history of modernity, is able by the power of thought to destroy enemy BTRG. Of course his profile is full of national symbols. He is a resident of Ivano-Frankivsk, Ternopil, Transcarpathia, Volyn regions [note Central and Eastern regions are not included, but no one cares what they think or want]. He despises the weakness of Kiev authorities, has juicy comments for the President. He argues passionately that speaking Russian language is a sign of working for the Moscals.

But also - he is a cowardly bastard... pinning his tail between his legs, he hides from the Commissar, he changes his phone number, he collects his possessions and runs to Romania, Hungary, Slovakia or Poland. And sits there, amused with his genius.

Got the first report on the implementation of the plan of the fourth wave of mobilization. Across the country, in each region.

AND I DON'T GET IT!

I don't understand the phrases, do not understand the facts.

... The heads of 14 rural councils of Ivano-Frankivsk oblast refused to accept the summons for notifications

... 57% of notified conscripts in Ivano-Frankivsk region did not arrive for medical commission.

... 37% of notified conscripts of Ivano-Frankivsk region have left the territory of Ukraine

... Heads of rural councils of Ternopil region openly sabotage events of notification, in case of appearance in the area of representatives of RVC - warn the residents of their own and surrounding villages.

... the head of the village council of Konyukhi, Kozovsky district reported that local people rented 2 buses and left for the territory of the Russian Federation.

Regular wrote:So UKRs are surrounded or not ?

No decision on new sanctions against Russia will be taken at the extraordinary EU Foreign Affairs Council on Thursday.

This was announced by the Latvian Foreign Minister Edgars Rinkevics, whose country is chairing the Council during this semester.

"I want to say right away that there will be no conclusive decisions on specific sanctions this Thursday. Most probably, a task will be given to prepare proposals, on which the Foreign Affairs Council might decide on Feb. 9," the Latvian minister said.

Latvia's position is that the sanctions against Russia must be increased if the situation in eastern Ukraine continues to deteriorate.

"If the situation improves the sanctions can be eased. If the situation remains unchanged the sanctions must remain unchanged too. If the situation deteriorates it is necessary to discuss stepping them up," Rinkevics said.

Valdis Dombrovskis, the European Commission Vice-President for Social Dialogue and the EU from Latvia, also told journalists in Brussels on Tuesday that the bloc's current sanctions against Russia would be lifted or increased depending on Russia's actions.

"The sanctions can be revised in any direction -- they can be increased, or, in the optimistic scenario, eased," Dombrovskis said.

EU foreign ministers are expected in principle to consider fresh sanctions against Russia at their extraordinary meeting this Thursday amid new escalation in Ukraine.

The Latvian foreign minister did not mention Greece, but there is a high probability that in case of new sanctions Greece might use its veto.

A first clash with Athens happened on Tuesday, when  the new Greek government rejected the Council's statement on Ukraine. Athens accused the Council as well as EEAS and Federica Mogherini of proceeding with the document without Greece's consent, just minutes after the new Prime Minister, Alexis Tsipras took office in Athens.

“The Statement of Heads of State and Government of the EU published today was circulated without the proper procedures being followed in order to obtain the consent of Member States and specifically Greece's consent”, announced the new Greek Prime Minister's Office, Dimitris Tzanakopoulos.

“Within this context we clarify that it does not have our country's consent. Our displeasure for this was expressed during a telephone conversation of the Prime Minister with the High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Federica Mogherini as well at the proper level, by the Permanet Representation of Greece to the EU”, he added.

“We don't agree with the spirit of sanctions against Russia, which has negative results not only for agriculture, as far as our own country's economy is concerned, but also in general”, said on Wednesday 28 January the new Greek deputy Foreign Minister, Nikos Hountis.

In an interview to the Athens and Macedonian News Agency, he also said that “Our objections on the issue will presented at the Foreign Minister's Council the Greek foreign Minister, Nikos Kotzias”.

“Other countries have similar reactions, because of the consequences of the sanctions” he added.

Referring to yesterday's Statement of Heads of State and Government of the EU that provoked a strong reaction from Athens, he noted that “there is a rush by certain Members States and this was expressed through that statement about which Greece expressed its displeasure.”

The new Greek foreign minister, Nikos Kotzias, might block new sanctions on Russia at the Council in Brussels. Kotzias is a professor of European Studies, a former member of the Greek Communist Party and a well-known friend of Russia. In the past he spoke against what he calls a "German-dominated Europe" and, in the 1980s, he praised the Polish government's crackdown on the Solidarity movement.

As soon as he became foreign minister, on 27 January, he accused the outgoing minister, Evangelos Venizelos, from the Nea Demokratia, of having let Brussels use Greece’s debt in order to force Athens to align itself with the rest of the EU.

Sympathy for Russia runs deep through the Greek psyche, and many politicians, as well as part of the population, hope that Moscow would come to the rescue financially, as it tried to do with Cyprus in 2012.

The present dispute started after the European Council president Donald Tusk said that in the January 29 meeting of foreign ministers "further restrictive measures" against Russia should be considered. Donald Tusk comes from the Polish Solidarity movement, which makes him the ideological opposite of some of the people forming the present Greek government. Also, Tusk has an uncompromising stance against Russia, which was seen as a salutary counterbalance to the softer attitude of Federica Mogherini, the chief of the EU’s diplomacy, but which might foresee further clashes with Athens.  

Kyo wrote:'Greece-EU clash over anti-Russia statement: others may follow Athens' suit'

Dancing of fascists battalion Azov - intentional self-introduction into a trance to increase aggression.
I think some of our readers have seen a short video about the strange dance of thugs from fascist battalion "Azov". This dance is called Moshing, or slamdancing, is a style of dance where participants push or slam into each other. It is usually associated with “aggressive” music genres, such as hardcore punk and numerous styles of heavy metal.
Gunmen Azov performed this dance with the racist songs and from time to time raised their hands in a Nazi salute.
Network activists who are familiar with the techniques of trance and activists who have studied totalitarian sects wrote that thus gunmen of Azov injected themselves into a trance and become capable of the crimes which they could not do in a normal state. Even if an ordinary person every evening in these dances represent himself and the rest of the battalion as super race, then after a while he will not be think about himself differently.
Thugs of Azov are long time brainwashed people and by such dances they deliberately lead themselves to the usual aggressive state. Of course in the battalion Azov and other fascist battalions there are other methods of introducing into a trance and altered states of consciousness, except this dance. Torchlight processions taken in Nazi Germany and using in Ukraine, is the most well-known method of introducing into a trance
Some people claim that there is no evidence that this is dancing of battalion "Azov". Specifically for them were made screenshots of the video, which shows the gunman Azov in black t-shirt. In front of his T-shirt visible emblem of Azov, in the back is written the name of the battalion - АЗОВ "Azov".

arpakola wrote:Greece might block fresh EU sanctions against Russia
http://www.neurope.eu/article/greece-might-block-fresh-eu-sanctions-against-russia


Minister of exterior Nikos Kotzias is a proffessor in University of Pireus and ex member of the polite berau of the Communist Party of Greece (KKE)

arpakola wrote:ouga ouga .. @##@@*>##$ ouga
slava AZOF batalion , slava Ukraina

Dancing of fascists battalion Azov - intentional self-introduction into a trance to increase aggression.
I think some of our readers have seen a short video about the strange dance of thugs from fascist battalion "Azov". This dance is called Moshing, or slamdancing, is a style of dance where participants push or slam into each other. It is usually associated with “aggressive” music genres, such as hardcore punk and numerous styles of heavy metal.
Gunmen Azov performed this dance with the racist songs and from time to time raised their hands in a Nazi salute.
Network activists who are familiar with the techniques of trance and activists who have studied totalitarian sects wrote that thus gunmen of Azov injected themselves into a trance and become capable of the crimes which they could not do in a normal state. Even if an ordinary person every evening in these dances represent himself and the rest of the battalion as super race, then after a while he will not be think about himself differently.
Thugs of Azov are long time brainwashed people and by such dances they deliberately lead themselves to the usual aggressive state. Of course in the battalion Azov and other fascist battalions there are other methods of introducing into a trance and altered states of consciousness, except this dance. Torchlight processions taken in Nazi Germany and using in Ukraine, is the most well-known method of introducing into a trance
Some people claim that there is no evidence that this is dancing of battalion "Azov". Specifically for them were made screenshots of the video, which shows the gunman Azov in black t-shirt. In front of his T-shirt visible emblem of Azov, in the back is written the name of the battalion - АЗОВ "Azov".  

"Enemy is squandering his numerical superiority"--Novorossia Militia

Novorossia Militia Update, 1/28/2015

Translated from Russian by J.Hawk

"Today the Ukrainian forces prefer to shell us rather than attack us. We are doing the same. Our attack on the Debaltsevo salient is continuing. Fighting everywhere. Hot-spots of resistance in Lozovoy, but fewer with every day, it’s like an ant-hill full of Ukrainians. Troitskoye has been described as “ours” or “not ours”, but in actuality it is shared. Both our and their forces are in the town, we take turns pushing one another out. A big mess. Krasnyy Pakhar, on the other hand, definitely ours. We had to leave Mironovskoye for Krasnyy Pakhar. A draw in Mironovka, high-intensity street fights. It seems we took Shevchenko. But we need to wait on that one, we don’t have fortifications or a defense plan yet. But Novoorlovka is definitely ours. And we are ready to give the Ukrainians a warm greeting. It’s looking like a stalemate along much of the front. There are more Ukrainians, but we have more experience and higher morale. That balances the forces. But the enemy is quickly squandering his numerical superiority in numerous, senseless, and merciless attacks! We are able to hone our skills as if on a firing range, full of drunk and drugged targets. That’s the only way Ukrainian forces attack right now.”

Translator’s Note: The battle is transforming into a larger-scale re-enactment of the Donetsk Airport drama: first Novorossia forces capture a vital location, then the Ukrainian forces beat themselves to pieces trying to retake it in the face of militia artillery fire. And the Ukrainian grouping in Debaltsevo still has not been relieved, and it has not attempted to break out, although it’s not clear whether it still could attempt an offensive maneuver of this sort. But this is a battle that the Kiev regime cannot afford to lose, so it will continue its attacks until it runs out of battleworthy units—or until it faces a rebellion in its own ranks.

magnumcromagnon wrote:Sh*t just got real:

Blitzkrieg turned mayhem: Hacktivists claim they reveal Ukrainian troops’ annihilation

sepheronx wrote:Regardless what Russia does, they will be labeled and sanctioned by EU and North America (excluding Mexico). At this point, call in a no fly zone and start dropping bombs (like west did in Libya) on Ukrainian troops and let the NovoRussians start to advance and take positions. Or at least bomb Ukrainian artillery positions.

Werewolf wrote:

sepheronx wrote:Regardless what Russia does, they will be labeled and sanctioned by EU and North America (excluding Mexico). At this point, call in a no fly zone and start dropping bombs (like west did in Libya) on Ukrainian troops and let the NovoRussians start to advance and take positions. Or at least bomb Ukrainian artillery positions.

Well 2014 we found out it is already wrong and a crime to be a russian, so much is evident from the USrael propaganda.

Hate to rain on your on your anti-Jewish / Zionist or whatever beliefs amigo, but one of the more interesting sideshows has been Israels non-support of the Russian sanctions. It is because they know who is on the Ukrainian team.