China build artificial islands in South China Sea

Newest picture of Miscief islands, traces of future runway and taxiway could be seen now.





Few pictures from Woody Island in Paracels.

Building of air base on Mischief.

Why do they build such shaped artificial islands? Do they have a specific purpose due their shape or advantages?

Werewolf wrote:Why do they build such shaped artificial islands? Do they have a specific purpose due their shape or advantages?

They follow the shape of underwater reef on which they build artificial island. Those big islands will host both air base with 3 km long runway and naval base for ships and subs.

Thanks medo and GarryB.

I still maintain they just copied the shape from a popular computer game. You know, being geeky Asians and all that..

China Calls US Bomber Flypast Near Spratly Islands 'Military Provocation'; Pentagon Says It Was ...
Source: International Business Times

China calls US bomber flypast near Spratly islands 'military provocation'; Pentagon says it was 'unintentional'

By Mugdha Variyar
Updated: December 19, 2015 10:57 IST

China sent out a stern message to the United States after an American B52 bomber flew close to the Spratly islands last week, that China claims is its territory in the South China Sea.

US officials said that the bomber had 'unintentionally' come within two nautical miles of an artificial island built by China in the South China Sea.

The incident reportedly occurred on 10 December, and China claims that two B52 bombers had entered the airspace near the reef.

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"US's behaviors are serious military provocations that harm regional peace and stability. China urges US to prevent such hazardous actions, saying it will take all necessary measures to defend national sovereignty and security," the Chinese Defence Ministry said, according to CCTV News.

Read more: http://www.ibtimes.co.in/china-calls-us-bomber-flypast-near-spratly-islands-military-provocation-pentagon-says-it-was-660174

Why is it someone has to die before Americans learn anything...

Big newer picture of Fiery Cross island.





Pictures of Mischief from this year. Building of air base is going well.

The B-52J would use stand-off weapons from outside the range of the S-400s. Still, it would be nice to have long-range, stealthy LRS-Bs, if they can really be produced at $500 million each.


With sea levels rising daily I wonder how long these Chinese man-made islands will remain above water? Did China factor climate change and rising sea levels into their SCS strategy? Or have they overreached in their attempts to establish hegemony over this body of water? One good storm could erase all of China's hard work in an afternoon. These (below) and other Chinese journals are beginning to sound the alarm about rising sea levels in the South China sea.

http://www2.ouc.edu.cn/xbywb/english/index.asp

http://www.jto.ac.cn/CN/volumn/current.shtml

It is helpful to recall that these bases China has established are built on atolls and sandbars that are merely a few inches or feet above sea level at high tide.

max steel wrote:

With sea levels rising daily I wonder how long these Chinese man-made islands will remain above water? Did China factor climate change and rising sea levels into their SCS strategy? Or have they overreached in their attempts to establish hegemony over this body of water? One good storm could erase all of China's hard work in an afternoon. These (below) and other Chinese journals are beginning to sound the alarm about rising sea levels in the South China sea.

http://www2.ouc.edu.cn/xbywb/english/index.asp

http://www.jto.ac.cn/CN/volumn/current.shtml

It is helpful to recall that these bases China has established are built on atolls and sandbars that are merely a few inches or feet above sea level at high tide.

Word for fucking word. I don't even have words to describe the strength of my hatred for you and your kind.



Link to the KeyPub thread.

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?116737-PLAN-News-Thread-4/page23

@X_Ukie53: Keep crying. You're unable to find my B-52 comment
from your forums? I'm surprised.

@Garry : Thanks and what about US B-52J bombers or B-2 firing stand off weapons from outside the range of S-400? And in coming years if they managed to make Long Range Strike Bomber then it will deliver both tactical nukes and standoff weapons from outside the range of Chinese air defense systems.So, how exactly is China supposed to defend its territories if they can hit wothout even coming in range.


I'm asking for Chinese not Russia because russia doesn't use export models that's why they must have covered the range of bombers coming from several places(scenario).

max steel wrote:@X_Ukie53: Keep crying. You're unable to find my B-52 comment
from your forums? I'm surprised.

@Garry : Thanks and what about US B-52J bombers or B-2 firing stand off weapons from outside the range of S-400? And in coming years if they managed to make Long Range Strike Bomber then it will deliver both tactical nukes and standoff weapons from outside the range of Chinese air defense systems.So, how exactly is China supposed to defend its territories if they can hit wothout even coming in range.


I'm asking for Chinese not Russia because russia doesn't use export models that's why they must have covered the range of bombers coming from several places(scenario).

Missile defence of PLAN assets in the region would fall in the AAW mission of the South Sea Fleet and in such an environment, responsible for tracking and engaging such airborne threats. ASMs and SRBMs will face being tracked and intercepted by PLAN DDGs and CGs as the outer layer of the AD network with HHQ-9s while FFGs host the inner layer with the HQ-16 for those that penetrated far. In the coming decade, the PLANSF takes the full burden of air and ballistic defence of the SCS before a fully operational PLAN carrier emerges. As such with at least one active CSG, and depending how active operations on the islands will be, the PLANAF will play the second half of A2/AD fully with a credible presence of AEW&Cs and fighters as deterrence against such strategic targets like bombers.

As Beijing prioritises the SCS, it's also why DDGs, FGGs, and future CG numbers are largely commissioned to the SS Fleet compared to the East and North.

Tyloe wrote:

max steel wrote:
@Garry : Thanks and what about US B-52J bombers or B-2 firing stand off weapons from outside the range of S-400? And in coming years if they managed to make Long Range Strike Bomber then it will deliver both tactical nukes and standoff weapons from outside the range of Chinese air defense systems.So, how exactly is China supposed to defend its territories if they can hit wothout even coming in range.


I'm asking for Chinese not Russia because russia doesn't use export models that's why they must have covered the range of bombers coming from several places(scenario).

Missile defence of PLAN assets in the region would fall in the AAW mission of the South Sea Fleet and in such an environment, responsible for tracking and engaging such airborne threats. ASMs and SRBMs will face being tracked and intercepted by PLAN DDGs and CGs as the outer layer of the AD network with HHQ-9s while FFGs host the inner layer with the HQ-16 for those that penetrated far. In the coming decade, the PLANSF takes the full burden of air and ballistic defence of the SCS before a fully operational PLAN carrier emerges. As such with at least one active CSG, and depending how active operations on the islands will be, the PLANAF will play the second half of A2/AD fully with a credible presence of AEW&Cs and fighters as deterrence against such strategic targets like bombers.

As Beijing prioritises the SCS, it's also why DDGs, FGGs, and future CG numbers are largely commissioned to the SS Fleet compared to the East and North.

Thanks and what about HQ-9 , HHQ-9 effectiveness. Never heard much about Chinese SAM's efficiency though , they got a deal with Turkey and that too ended with Turkey cancelling it. HQ-16 ? Enlighten me more about it.

max steel wrote:Thanks and what about HQ-9 , HHQ-9 effectiveness. Never heard much about Chinese SAM's efficiency though , they got a deal with Turkey and that too ended with Turkey cancelling it. HQ-16 ? Enlighten me more about it.

That's because the Chinese aren't really known to be transplant on areas like missle development and their defence industry as a whole. Although seeing HQ-9 is the main land based and long range naval SAM in service, the performance at least satisfies the the needs of the PLA. Expect newer variants to improve on the original system. The base variant of the HQ-19 has a horizon range of around 150km which complements the cold and universal launched VLS of the Type 052C and 052D.

Turkey canceled the deal with ToT due to NATO pressure and closed international bids to independently take an indegenious design instead.

HQ-16 is a third-gen medium range SAM with active radar guidence and similiar performance to BUK. According to which offical source you're reading, the naval variant has a range of 30-40km reaching Mach 3. GlobalSecurity is somewhat accurate stating for the ground based HQ-16 with altitudes from 10-6000 meters, single hit probability 0.7-0.98, reaction time 5-8 seconds, 2.9 m long missile, projectile diameter 0.232 m, and weighs 165 kg, warhead weight of 17 kg, the maximum flight speed of Mach 2.8.

I prefer AusAirPower even SOC's blog.Any news on F-2000?

Comparing the sizes of islands and the length of the runways on the islands.

max steel wrote:@X_Ukie53: Keep crying. You're unable to find my B-52 comment
from your forums? I'm surprised.

Your B-52 comment is your own addition, why do you think I did not include it my quote from you?

The rest of your comment is completely copied from Roovialk. It is not the first you have done it either.


Rest assured that I will not be crying, instead I will be laughing at you over how low your intelligence must be, to not even be able to analyse and form your own answers to the questions you mindlessly copy to other forums, hoping someone will answer them for you.

Make sure to not stay up beyond your bedtime.