MAKS-2015 Air Show: Photos and Discussion

Berkut wrote:It is a mock up of a Mi-24 intended to be a testbed for highspeed helicopter technologies.

Oh??? Is this related to the Mil Mi-X1/Kamov Ka-92 high speed helicopter competition? Has their been anymore news about that competition?

There is some confusion about the whole ordeal. It is claimed (who knows by what authority) that this mock up is of "ПСВПС-ЛЛ" which is a testbed for a helicopter with two rotors placed on each side, think Mi V-12. ПСВПС-ЛЛ is developed by Mi using their own funds.

Then there is ПСВ which can mean two things; "Perspective fast helicopter" or "Perspective medium helicopter" which are very different things of course... There are high speed elements for the later so the test bed mock up could be for both. It seems however the high speed project is dead and morphed into "Perspective medium helicopter" and using high speed elements, just not as high speed as the original PSV. http://www.russianhelicopters.aero/en/press/publications/3126.html Sign under the model says Advanced Medium Helicopter, ie the same as "Perspective medium helicopter".

Basically; we don't really know for sure at the moment. Hopefully it will get clear over the course of MAKS, but i think it is unlikely to be for "ПСВПС-ЛЛ", most likely for RACHEL.

Mi-X1 was the original high speed PSV i think so that is dead. Ka-92 is most likely dead too, atleast it is not state funded.

The problem to work on high speed helicopters while using tail/main rotor scheme is the speed limit they have due the advancing blade that creates an asymmetric lift and as soon as it reaches this speed limit it will tilt and at such speeds that can cause a crash.

http://sputniknews.com/photo/20150822/1026049934.html

The problem to work on high speed helicopters while using tail/main rotor scheme is the speed limit they have due the advancing blade that creates an asymmetric lift and as soon as it reaches this speed limit it will tilt and at such speeds that can cause a crash.

Yes... called a retreating blade stall, where the blade moving forward gets extra lift from the forward air speed of the aircraft, while the retreating blade on the other side has to be adjusted to a higher angle of attack to generate the same amount of lift with the flight speed deducted from its rotational speed.

The top speed is limited by the amount of angle the retreating blade can be angled to and still generate lift... when it stalls the advancing blade generates lots of lift, while the retreating blade generates no lift... only drag and the aircraft rapidly rolls and flips over on its back... and normally crashes.

On a coaxial design like the Hokum there are two retreating blades and two forward moving blades so the lift is more balanced.

Great pictures BTW everybody.

Mi-26 showing off and a few other aircraft too.

Nice

Breakneck Speed: New Russian Jet Engine to Propel Aircraft to 9,000 Kmh

[quote="The breakthrough engine was designed by the Central Institute of Aviation Motors (CIAM) in Moscow.[/quote]

For me the most important is to have contracts signed during the show

sepheronx wrote:

VitalyVK wrote:Already received the accreditation, will be there 25-27 and 29

Vitaly, could I please make a request?  If you are going to be there, could you please take any photos of MCST booth?

ok, MCST I suppose is the company producing Elbrus PC and other electronics?

More here:
http://twower.livejournal.com/1760938.html

http://www.aviasalon.com/en

New wingpods with it seems MAWS L-136 sensors for the Mi-28NM upgrade like it seems.

Here original very high resolution, much better quality to see the wingtip pods with LWR and MAWS.



Also what i have waited for so long a Mi-35M2/3 upgrade with MAWS.


It looks really awesome and the paint job suites it very well.

+1 My vote man, you made my day, thanks.  

Edit: PS if you look at the Mi-28N full size picture you can read either french or spain on the nose "Ne Pas Peindre". Export version for what country?

Algeria is my guess.

Werewolf wrote:New wingpods with it seems MAWS L-136 sensors for the Mi-28NM upgrade like it seems.

Here original very high resolution, much better quality to see the wingtip pods with LWR and MAWS.



Also what i have waited for so long a Mi-35M2/3 upgrade with MAWS.


It looks really awesome and the paint job suites it very well.

+1 My vote man, you made my day, thanks.  

Edit: PS if you look at the Mi-28N full size picture you can read either french or spain on the nose "Ne Pas Peindre". Export version for what country?

Do not Paint in French (Do not Stencil - Ne pas Marquer). It's the Dz (Algeria) contract.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Do not Paint in French (Do not Stencil - Ne pas Marquer). It's the Dz (Algeria) contract.

Well Algeria will than have the most modern Crocodiles ... for a while.

Here's the MiG 1.44
http://missiles2go.ru/2015/08/24/%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8B%D0%B9-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA-%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B8-1-44/

New UAV to be displayed by Kronstadt, could be VTOL:



http://missiles2go.ru/2015/08/20/%d0%ba%d1%80%d0%be%d0%bd%d1%88%d1%82%d0%b0%d0%b4%d1%82-%d0%b1%d0%bb%d0%b0-%d1%84%d1%80%d0%b5%d0%b3%d0%b0%d1%82-%d0%bc%d0%b0%d0%ba%d1%812015/

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Also:

So it begins...

Baller thread chaps, keep 'em coming!

A stream with Tsar Putin right now, hopefully they will continue the stream to show the actual show.

Tsar Putin's speech ended just as i was posting this. Lets see if the stream continues...

EDIT; Looks like they killed the stream. If anyone has a link to a stream, please share.

MAKS live stream!

https://www.rt.com/on-air/maks-2015-air-show/

Many people there worship Machine Spirit        All hail God Emperor    


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